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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:03:48 PM

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Gentlemen, force yourself to watch The View. All of it. Just one time. Then lets revisit the vote for women.

hahaha that cracked me up.....

oh yeah, shame on you!

now back to giggling.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:03:49 PM

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I put those exact words that wilbur said he said and nothing even close came up.

Two fuckin liars.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:07:11 PM

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Libya?

Panama?

where was the gestapo finally found in grenada? I missed the news on that.

Even at that where was the resolution?

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:27:00 PM

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Typical liberal/progressive misinformation.

The words of the Constitution were deliberately precise to prevent "interpretation" due to here today/gone tomorrow societal agendas.

Some want to interpret it rather than ammend it, per it, in order to futher their societal agendas.

Of course this is untrue. For instance the Framers made a fundamental mistake in not giving the Judicial branch the explicit ability to review the constitutionality of legislation. It wasn't until 1803, with most of the Framers still alive, that SCOTUS asserted the right to judicially review legislation derived from the language of Article III.

among several others the mistake the constitutors made was when they allowed the judicial branch to be party to gubbermint

They should be wholy independent.

They should use one elected judge from every state.

The extent of their authority should end at OPINION only, judgment is to the sole discretion of the jury of the people. (7th)

and on the 11th, 14th and 16th congress over-ruled them.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:33:06 PM

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England does not have a written constitution.

the magna charta and the bill of rights is used in its place. Constitution is a bankruptcy trust and england didnt need one.

The government operates by a set of traditions (common law) and a variety of laws and aggreements dating back to the Magna Carta.

Not any more, they claim they do but show us how that can be achieved in todays admin courts? They write the statutes over the top of the CL and then if you enter in a CL pleading they PRESUME you are running statutory and trap you into their ponzi scam.

In other words its on the books and ignored because there is no money in it for the gub. Its been taken over by international commercial law. (generically speaking)

Much theoretical power held by the House of Lords and the monarh is not exercised so as to avoid having the public demand a written constitution.

They arent bankrupt what do the need it for?

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:40:16 PM

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right, since framers was in use and used in regards to the constitutions writers at the time.

But you are clueless. I don't think constitutionally so, just in its ordinary sense.

ordinary sense is invariably incorrect. Constitution is law there is no ordinary sense in law. I correctused used the word constitutor and gave you the definition.

By comparison your ordinary even if it were correct is a meaningless term of color by comparison.

In other words it is a modern aggregation used incorrectly to describe an event that the word constitutor describes precisely at its root or core meaning.

Modern aggregation of words is used by tyrannical syntax terrorists throughout time to control people, with bullshit frankly because they were not educated enough to understand what was going on.

Its much the same way today. Hell they even re-wrote the physics books 10 years ago. LOL

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:41:46 PM

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Tell that to George Osborne, if I hear that 'nations credit card' metaphor one more time I'm going to use his nostril like an ATM slot with my credit card.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:44:37 PM

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Tell that to George Osborne, if I hear that 'nations credit card' metaphor one more time I'm going to use his nostril like an ATM slot with my credit card.

yeh

show me on american in their right mind would give up what we were led to believe the word freedom means for this shit:

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It is if you know what the words mean.

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CONSTITUTOR. In Civil Law. He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another; and this is always a principal obligation. Inst 4. 6. 9.

even worse I can show you in the legal dictionaries of the 1800's where they omitted key words!

and of course omitting them from the dictionaries omits them from the minds of the people.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:45:04 PM

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I used the word idiot and gave you the definition. I also used the word jellyfish.

The second word shares an uncanny applicablity with constitutors, regarding the constitution, this is a prima facie case of FirmHandKYs false cognates, you demonstrate.

The first definition is definitely applicable (you remember it is from blacks law 9th) and it concerns you wholly and completely.

But not the Constitution.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:49:54 PM

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I only use blacks when it remotely is inline with a real dictionary. Of course its the most popular one for attorneys in the us. The supreme court doesnt even have one of those LOL

the constitution does not give you definitions ron.

you talking about this?

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CONSTITUTOR. In Civil Law. He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another; and this is always a principal obligation. Inst 4. 6. 9.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:53:10 PM

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England does not have a written constitution. The government operates by a set of traditions (common law) and a variety of laws and aggreements dating back to the Magna Carta. Much theoretical power held by the House of Lords and the monarh is not exercised so as to avoid having the public demand a written constitution.

I`m intrigued by the section I have bolded Ken. I am unsure where you get this idea from. IE, how anything to do with the Lords would create a demand from the public for a constitution.

On a later post you are correct about the Monarch being able to dismiss government in theory. This hasnt happened since 1834 when the government has had a majority. It did happen in the 1970s when the government were unable to form a majority. The smaller party went to ask the Queen to dismiss parliament .

House of Lords vetos have been under change and review since early 1900. Some bills they could veto, but only for a set amount of time ( parliamentary sessions ), others they couldnt, such as the budget ( I think )

Just a general FYI. There is talk of the UK having a written constitution in the near future. The mandarins are working on it already.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:54:52 PM

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I only use blacks when it remotely is inline with a real dictionary.

Except when it suits you, as I recall.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:56:06 PM

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On a later post you are correct about the Monarch being able to dismiss government in theory.

so much for "just a figurehead" theory.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:56:40 PM

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Just a general FYI. There is talk of the UK having a written constitution in the near future. The mandarins are working on it already.

I think they'll just be taking an existing document and changing the initials EU to UK wherever they appear.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 3:58:18 PM

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I only use blacks when it remotely is inline with a real dictionary.

Except when it suits you, as I recall.

nice trim job to misrepresent what I said

yeh the constitution is about equivalent to a chapter 13 refinancing arrangement. sax law requires a 70 year note for nations.

thats why they call it an-----administration and the pres is the administrator!! think trust under bankruptcy

they needed to come up with a more perfect way to pay the bill cuz the king was pissed and wanted his money!! Its been that way ever since!

for some reason people forget the rev war put us seriously in debt to none other than the king!

LMAO

tis a small world indeedy

oh and even the AOC gave the legislatures EXCLUSIVE power to lay and collect taxes without any input from the pesky people.

and they have done that part of their job exceptionally well!!!

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 4:03:28 PM

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On a later post you are correct about the Monarch being able to dismiss government in theory.

so much for "just a figurehead" theory.

Think about it brains. Why hasnt it happened for almost 200 years ? If you need help I will explain the Bill Of rights etc to you. ( for the umptempth time )

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 4:08:00 PM

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nothing more than a hypothetical equivalent to asking "since there are 310,000,000 known arms in the hands of 305,000,000 civilians in the US why have they not risen up against the tyranny they faced over the last 200 years?"

no difference

unused power or authority does not mean it does not exist.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 4:11:17 PM

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nothing more than a hypothetical equivalent to asking "since there are 310,000,000 known arms in the hands of civilians in the US why have they not risen up against the tyranny they are facing today?"

no difference

Ive taught you all this before, how soon you forget. I wont reply anymore so to keep this thread on topic.

Anytime you want English history lessons start a thread though.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 4:15:25 PM

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well actually you havent. Unless you can show me the signed documents between the monarch and the people it does not exist, sorry.

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RE: The American Constitution ? - 3/31/2011 4:50:17 PM

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England does not have a written constitution. The government operates by a set of traditions (common law) and a variety of laws and aggreements dating back to the Magna Carta. Much theoretical power held by the House of Lords and the monarh is not exercised so as to avoid having the public demand a written constitution.

I`m intrigued by the section I have bolded Ken. I am unsure where you get this idea from. IE, how anything to do with the Lords would create a demand from the public for a constitution.

On a later post you are correct about the Monarch being able to dismiss government in theory. This hasnt happened since 1834 when the government has had a majority. It did happen in the 1970s when the government were unable to form a majority. The smaller party went to ask the Queen to dismiss parliament .

House of Lords vetos have been under change and review since early 1900. Some bills they could veto, but only for a set amount of time ( parliamentary sessions ), others they couldnt, such as the budget ( I think )

Just a general FYI. There is talk of the UK having a written constitution in the near future. The mandarins are working on it already.

Are you saying that the Lords and the Queen don't exercise their theoretical power for some reason besides fear of creating enough annoyance that they would get done away with?

Wasn't that precisely why the Lords didn't hold up the equality act a few years back when they threatened to do so?

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