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Human bites - 4/2/2011 9:30:44 PM

MaxsBoy

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I'm curious about bites that break through the skin. I've done some Googling, and will be getting myself a tetanus booster sometime soon as recommended. Reading about treatment, all I'm finding is that I should go to a doctor and they'll clean it and decide what to do. I'd rather not if I can avoid it, so I'm wondering what treatment would be at home? One source says to flush with cool water and use a mild antiseptic, but nothing about continued care during the healing process. Does anyone here have any further information?

Edited to clarify - this hasn't happened yet, but it might at some point in the near future.

Second edit - another question is whether anything can be done before a bite to reduce infection risk. A thorough rinse with something strong like Listerine comes to mind, but I'm not sure if that would help at all.

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RE: Human bites - 4/2/2011 10:12:19 PM

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Hi Fox

good grief...what are you boys up to?!!

Okay. Human bites. We see a lot of those--mostly when either healthcare providers get bit by patients--particularly children....or special needs kids that bite other kids/teachers. Our mouths are one of the dirtiest, most bacterial filled places on our bodies. Rinsing with listerine before biting someone really won't help despite what the mouthwash industry wants you to believe--our mouths are like little bacteria factories.

Infection is the big risk here, and there are a few factors--most importantly, does the bite break the skin, and how deep is the bite? Playful biting that doesn't break the skin isn't too risky an activity. That should be okay, overall. I'd take precautions and try your best to avoid breaking the skin. A tetanus booster is a good idea regardless.

If you do break the skin, apply direct pressure to stop any bleeding and then wash the bite as soon as possible with copious amounts of cold water a mild soap is okay too, as long as the wound is not deep. If it's just a scrape/abraded area, just keep it clean, watch for infection. If it's a puncture, flush with lots of water--don't pour ANYTHING into it. Don't listen to what others may tell you--don't pour peroxide, betadine, alcohol or anything onto or INTO an open wound. A thousand times no.

I can't imagine it would come to this--but if anything gets bitten off--piece of ear, for example....keep the piece. Put it in a ziplock and put on either a cold pack or on an icebag--don't put it directly on ice--you don't want it to freeze--if all you have is ice, place a towel over it first. There is a chance if you catch it in time, it can be reattached by a plastic surgeon--so here's the bottom line--control yourselves and you'll save a lot of time, suffering and expensive doctor's visits.

Any bite that is very deep gives you a risk of scarring and infection, and may need to be irrigated by a physician and sutured....so again.... don't go crazy with the biting.

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RE: Human bites - 4/2/2011 10:14:59 PM

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We're just a couple of dogs, doing what dogs do best.

We'll be good and go easy with the skin breaking, I promise. Thanks for the advice.

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RE: Human bites - 4/2/2011 10:19:37 PM

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Well, I had a girlfriend in college who was a biter who broke the skin on my nipples once-- fortunately not deep and I washed them quickly and thoroughly, but still ended up having a physician check them for infection.

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RE: Human bites - 4/2/2011 10:39:30 PM

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Ha, I've had that happen too, and not the fun way. Breastfeeding is a bitch sometimes. Had no skin on them for a month straight.

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RE: Human bites - 4/3/2011 4:37:16 AM

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Ha, I've had that happen too, and not the fun way. Breastfeeding is a bitch sometimes. Had no skin on them for a month straight.

I have scars from breastfeeding. He did not even have teeth!

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RE: Human bites - 4/3/2011 5:25:56 AM

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My daughter used to bite me when she was angry and young. A few times she broke the skin. I just washed it, cleaned it and never had any kind of infection or scarring. I don't have any health problems either which is probably another thing you want to be sure of. If you have any kind of health problems then you'll want to check with your doctor.

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RE: Human bites - 4/3/2011 12:50:00 PM

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As long as you're up to date on your rabies, you should be ok

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RE: Human bites - 4/3/2011 1:51:21 PM

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As long as you're up to date on your rabies, you should be ok

And parvo.

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RE: Human bites - 4/3/2011 6:24:01 PM

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We both have our parvo, rabies, and distemper up to date. Both need a tetanus though.

Calamitysandra, I also have scars from it, just from the first few weeks. I'm not kidding about not having skin on them for about a month. They don't look remotely the same now as they did pre-kid.

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RE: Human bites - 4/4/2011 4:42:50 AM

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The things nobody tells you prior to having your first ...

It was our standard joke that Oldest was thriving on a diet of half mothers milk, half blood.

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RE: Human bites - 4/4/2011 5:14:27 AM

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The things nobody tells you prior to having your first ...

It was our standard joke that Oldest was thriving on a diet of half mothers milk, half blood.

Does your child have a problem with things like ohhhhhhhhhhhhh sunlight, water, crucifixes?

Just wonderin.

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RE: Human bites - 4/4/2011 12:04:19 PM

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Human bites are worse than dog bites. However dogs are more likely to create deep puncture wounds. And that's when the real risk comes because bacteria in deep do not wash away easily. Surface only bites just require normal treatment, soap & water, neosporin, and keep an eye on for infection. Puncture wounds of any kind require being seen to by a doctor.

Tetanus is unlikely from human to human transmission, especially with a shallow bite. However anybody who rides horses know that there's your highest risk of tetanus. Horse manure is the perfect vector for the tetanus bacillus. With that said, everybody should get a tetanus shot every ten years with a booster for any deep wound more than a year after the vaccine.

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RE: Human bites - 4/4/2011 2:20:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: calamitysandra

The things nobody tells you prior to having your first ...

It was our standard joke that Oldest was thriving on a diet of half mothers milk, half blood.

Does your child have a problem with things like ohhhhhhhhhhhhh sunlight, water, crucifixes?

Just wonderin.

Thankfully not. But considering that he just jumped full ahead into puberty, those things would be preferable to what we can see lurking just around the corner.

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RE: Human bites - 4/4/2011 4:14:49 PM

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quote:

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Human bites are worse than dog bites. However dogs are more likely to create deep puncture wounds. And that's when the real risk comes because bacteria in deep do not wash away easily. Surface only bites just require normal treatment, soap & water, neosporin, and keep an eye on for infection. Puncture wounds of any kind require being seen to by a doctor.

Tetanus is unlikely from human to human transmission, especially with a shallow bite. However anybody who rides horses know that there's your highest risk of tetanus. Horse manure is the perfect vector for the tetanus bacillus. With that said, everybody should get a tetanus shot every ten years with a booster for any deep wound more than a year after the vaccine.

You'd be surprised DesFIP (well, maybe you wouldn't)--I've seen whole chunks taken out of folks' arms, faces, fingers etc. as a result of human bites. Any time the skin breaks, we give the patient a tetanus shot if they aren't up to date. (It's not because we worry about the transmission of tetanus from the biter--any time you have an open wound we check tetanus records)

Occasionally the bite is not exactly a bite--it's sometimes "my fist hit his mouth" and find the teeth of the guy who got the worst of it embedded in the fist of the other guy. Medically, it's considered a bite.

Either way, they are often nasty business. The only ones worse are cat bites--those suckers get infected a lot!

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RE: Human bites - 4/6/2011 9:06:58 AM

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I have enjoyed biting in my play for the last 10 yrs and at a point I was lucky enough to have a kink friendly doctor.

Do NOT us alcohol or peroxide on it can injure tissue!

keep your tetanus shot updated
keep the area clean (keep cleaning simply with mild soap)
ice for pain
if it bleeds obviously stop the bleeding & elevate to stop swelling

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RE: Human bites - 4/7/2011 11:04:59 AM

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You'd be surprised DesFIP (well, maybe you wouldn't)--I've seen whole chunks taken out of folks' arms, faces, fingers etc. as a result of human bites. Any time the skin breaks, we give the patient a tetanus shot if they aren't up to date. (It's not because we worry about the transmission of tetanus from the biter--any time you have an open wound we check tetanus records)

Occasionally the bite is not exactly a bite--it's sometimes "my fist hit his mouth" and find the teeth of the guy who got the worst of it embedded in the fist of the other guy. Medically, it's considered a bite.

Either way, they are often nasty business. The only ones worse are cat bites--those suckers get infected a lot!

I wasn't thinking those kinds of bites but consensual ones which is what I assumed the op was talking about. Where you aren't looking to take a chunk out of someone and damage them. But I would call those deep, and yeah, a booster is always helpful.

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RE: Human bites - 4/8/2011 7:16:00 PM

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You'd be surprised DesFIP (well, maybe you wouldn't)--I've seen whole chunks taken out of folks' arms, faces, fingers etc. as a result of human bites. Any time the skin breaks, we give the patient a tetanus shot if they aren't up to date. (It's not because we worry about the transmission of tetanus from the biter--any time you have an open wound we check tetanus records)

Occasionally the bite is not exactly a bite--it's sometimes "my fist hit his mouth" and find the teeth of the guy who got the worst of it embedded in the fist of the other guy. Medically, it's considered a bite.

Either way, they are often nasty business. The only ones worse are cat bites--those suckers get infected a lot!

I wasn't thinking those kinds of bites but consensual ones which is what I assumed the op was talking about. Where you aren't looking to take a chunk out of someone and damage them. But I would call those deep, and yeah, a booster is always helpful.

True, true.
I knew that's what Fox was referring to...the playful bites that get a little too enthusiastic...
but infection is always a risk when a bite leaves an open wound,even a small one. Again, it's a common occurrence. In the meantime, I'll see if I can get Alpha access to a free tetanus.

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RE: Human bites - 4/11/2011 7:34:10 AM

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The reason human bites are so bad is because we eat so much poison. I've been bitten by dogs. First time I was a little kid and they took me to the doctor and all that shit. Next time I just bit the motherfucker back. He didn't do it again.

This antiseptic life is wrong. Want sex ? I'll pitch a tent in the back and we can fuck with the mosquitos and grashoppers tickling our ears. That is how nature intended it.

Cut me ? What stitches ? Bullshit. Soap ? Fucking why ? The poison is already in your body if it was there, it's too late. Stop the bleeding ? Bullshit - MAKE IT BLEED AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. The blood is flowing out, nothing flows in at that time. It also may flush out any poisons that may have gotten in. That is fucking why nature designed us with a positive blood pressure, rather than a vacuum that would suck in who knows what ?

If you don't understand I guess you just haven't been injured physically enough.

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RE: Human bites - 4/11/2011 7:42:23 AM

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You'd be surprised DesFIP (well, maybe you wouldn't)--I've seen whole chunks taken out of folks' arms, faces, fingers etc. as a result of human bites. Any time the skin breaks, we give the patient a tetanus shot if they aren't up to date. (It's not because we worry about the transmission of tetanus from the biter--any time you have an open wound we check tetanus records)

Occasionally the bite is not exactly a bite--it's sometimes "my fist hit his mouth" and find the teeth of the guy who got the worst of it embedded in the fist of the other guy. Medically, it's considered a bite.

Either way, they are often nasty business. The only ones worse are cat bites--those suckers get infected a lot!

I wasn't thinking those kinds of bites but consensual ones which is what I assumed the op was talking about. Where you aren't looking to take a chunk out of someone and damage them. But I would call those deep, and yeah, a booster is always helpful.

True, true.
I knew that's what Fox was referring to...the playful bites that get a little too enthusiastic...
but infection is always a risk when a bite leaves an open wound,even a small one. Again, it's a common occurrence. In the meantime, I'll see if I can get Alpha access to a free tetanus.

That reminds me of an incident which happened about 10 years ago where a previous classmate ended up in a fight where the other person did bite him into his hand which then itself lead to such bad infections that he almost lost one of his fingers...i think they could save it in the end, though i wouldn't bet on it...so it can go wrong sometimes, indeed.

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