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FatDomDaddy -> Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 4:59:47 PM)

Why is there even coverage?






popeye1250 -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 5:03:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Why is there even coverage?






I know! I wipe my ass with a couple of pages of the Koran after eating Mexican the night before and where's "The Press" then! Where are they?




Politesub53 -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 5:15:10 PM)

Talking of ass wipes !

I guess the outcome and deaths, incidental or not, isnt much interest to you two. Even those who dont condone the violence see that there is a link. I am unsure of the point of starting a new thread on the issue either.




rulemylife -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 5:38:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Why is there even coverage?



I don't know, maybe you should ask that question of yourself.

Why are you posting another thread about a topic that's already been beaten to death on here?






FatDomDaddy -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 5:41:34 PM)

Well see... that's it right?

This preacher... announced (What 6, 7 months ago?) that he was going to do this and it was clear then it was a giant publicity stunt.

Why was it news then?

Why was it even covered?

Typical that you go right to the name calling, it's your style, but you never answered the question on why it was even news in the first place.

So who is really to blame for these deaths? The irreverent Reverend or the hordes of media that turned it into a world wide event?

And don't worry 53, its a rhetorical question so don't busy your brain. The people responsible for those murders are the whack job Islamist who used
the Quran burning as a reason to behead infidels. But surprise surprise.. that angle isn't even being reported.

Now...go back to your name calling 53.




eihwaz -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 5:58:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Why is there even coverage?

Maybe this thread can provide insight.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 6:06:08 PM)

Here's the thing.... as far as I can tell this " that dumbass preacher in fl " didn't kill anyone, he just burned a book.

So again... I ask, why was it newsworthy in the first place?





slvemike4u -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 6:34:03 PM)

Could it be,and I'm just spit balling here,that a large group of people see that as blasphemy against there religion and an action worthy of a violent reaction.
Now you and I can find the reaction out of proportion and to be scorned....but that does not change the reality of it.
So you have to ask yourself...why? Why did this publicity loving ,ignorant asshole need to enact this stunt?





rulemylife -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 6:57:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Could it be,and I'm just spit balling here,that a large group of people see that as blasphemy against there religion and an action worthy of a violent reaction.
Now you and I can find the reaction out of proportion and to be scorned....but that does not change the reality of it.
So you have to ask yourself...why? Why did this publicity loving ,ignorant asshole need to enact this stunt?



Mike, you have to ask yourself why anyone has a right to be violent when no violent acts were taken against them.




Sanity -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:05:02 PM)


Why do I get the feeling that anyone stupid enough to try walking by the crowd that did the killing carrying a bible wouldnt live to regret it.  These arent exactly high brows were referring to, in Afghanista. If they didnt have this to use for their murderous rabble rousing they would point to Jack Daniels, Madonna, Barbi ...or anything remotely Liberal or Hollywood as an excuse.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Could it be,and I'm just spit balling here,that a large group of people see that as blasphemy against there religion and an action worthy of a violent reaction.
Now you and I can find the reaction out of proportion and to be scorned....but that does not change the reality of it.
So you have to ask yourself...why? Why did this publicity loving ,ignorant asshole need to enact this stunt?






Sanity -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:07:25 PM)


Because certain so-called 'reporters' from our left-leaning media have some kind of innate need to beat their chests and wail and cry about how terrible Americans are?

Just a guess.

quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Why is there even coverage?







jlf1961 -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:14:31 PM)

Actually, there should have been no coverage of the book burning, it is after all a conservative tradition.

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In 1873, Comstock wielded enough political influence to get the U.S. Congress to pass the Comstock Law, making it illegal to transport and deliver "obscene, lewd, or lascivious" materials. Comstock claimed to have been responsible for burning 160 tons of "obscene" literature and causing the arrest of over 3000 perpetrators in his lifetime.

In 1918, the United States Post Office burned four issues of publisher Margaret Anderson's "Little Review" magazine because they contained excerpts from James Joyce's then unpublished novel, "Ulysses." Anderson was later indicted and fined for obscenity.

In 1935, the library trustees of Warsaw, Indiana ordered that all copies of Theodore Dreiser's novels in their libraries be burned for its obscene and leftist content. As a boy, Dreiser went to school in Warsaw, Indiana. Book Burning in America?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:20:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Could it be,and I'm just spit balling here,that a large group of people see that as blasphemy against there religion and an action worthy of a violent reaction.
Now you and I can find the reaction out of proportion and to be scorned....but that does not change the reality of it.
So you have to ask yourself...why? Why did this publicity loving ,ignorant asshole need to enact this stunt?


You are kidding right?

Islamist are burning The Bible or The Torah ritualistically on a daily basis and it gets ZERO coverage. But even if it did, where in the Christian world would gangs of thugs be beheading  bystanders for an Iman burning a Bible did 6,000 miles away?

The publicity loving ignorant (wrong use of the word, mike as he knew EXACTLY what he was doing) bastard was trying to get on TV. He succeded beyond his wildest dreams.  BUT again... he killed no one.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:25:17 PM)

when did fox become left wing?and drudge and malkin and beck? they are all giving it coverage
one  fox report has over five thousand comments, someof them are obviously written by right wing muslims, these couldnt be written by right wing christians could they?
Maybe start there and ask
right wing christians funnymentalists are as ignorant as islamic funnymentalists
my god is better than yours neener
btw
how come no one has picked up on the IRA murders this weekend
How come theres no call for  catholics being as bad as muslims?







FatDomDaddy -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:29:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Actually, there should have been no coverage of the book burning, it is after all a conservative tradition.

quote:

In 1873, Comstock wielded enough political influence to get the U.S. Congress to pass the Comstock Law, making it illegal to transport and deliver "obscene, lewd, or lascivious" materials. Comstock claimed to have been responsible for burning 160 tons of "obscene" literature and causing the arrest of over 3000 perpetrators in his lifetime.

In 1918, the United States Post Office burned four issues of publisher Margaret Anderson's "Little Review" magazine because they contained excerpts from James Joyce's then unpublished novel, "Ulysses." Anderson was later indicted and fined for obscenity.

In 1935, the library trustees of Warsaw, Indiana ordered that all copies of Theodore Dreiser's novels in their libraries be burned for its obscene and leftist content. As a boy, Dreiser went to school in Warsaw, Indiana. Book Burning in America?



This is such a silly statement.

Burning in Effigy, whether its a book or a flag or a stuffed doll  is a time tested, hallmark of political and religious protest. It's origins likely go back 1000's of years. It's neither conservative nor liberal.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:38:33 PM)

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my god is better than yours neener
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


right wing christians funnymentalists are as ignorant as islamic funnymentalists
my god is better than yours neener
btw
how come no one has picked up on the IRA murders this weekend
How come theres no call for  catholics being as bad as muslims?


The last time I checked, Christian fundies are not beading, stoning and lynching infidels or excuting women for being raped or homosexuals for have sex with each other.

And Lucy... I know someone will say "No... they are only killing abortion doctors" but we know that giving numbers ratios, its a specious retort.


As for the IRA... They are Marxist, The IRA hasn't even been nominally Catholic ever. 




slvemike4u -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:39:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Could it be,and I'm just spit balling here,that a large group of people see that as blasphemy against there religion and an action worthy of a violent reaction.
Now you and I can find the reaction out of proportion and to be scorned....but that does not change the reality of it.
So you have to ask yourself...why? Why did this publicity loving ,ignorant asshole need to enact this stunt?



Mike, you have to ask yourself why anyone has a right to be violent when no violent acts were taken against them.

I am not disputing the disproportionality,nor the irrationality of the reaction....all I'm saying is ,sadly,it was predictable.
Are there elements of this culture that seem to have been stuck in some 17th century time warp,of course there are.These actions do not fit any definition of moral,or sane behavior that we would adhere to.
But it is real and it was predictable...and this schmuck preacher has stated he will do this again.
Is there anything sane in his response to this travesty?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:49:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
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Is there anything sane in his response to this travesty?



YES.

It's a completely sane act.

Of course, its bigoted, of course its distasteful, of course its attentions seeking!

But that is what Freedom of Speech is all about.

The reporting of this ONE MAN'S CRUSADE however is something else entirely. There is no reason whatsoever for it to even be locally newsworthy yet here it is... being giving  the kind of coverage as if it were a sanctioned act of congress being signed into law by President Obama himself!

And for some reason, you and others seem to want to BLAME him for actions of murders 6,000 miles away. Worse still, you wish to give Islam a different standard when it comes to how you can protest their religious beliefs!






isoladyboss -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:54:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
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Is there anything sane in his response to this travesty?



YES.

It's a completely sane act.

Of course, its bigoted, of course its distasteful, of course its attentions seeking!

But that is what Freedom of Speech is all about.

The reporting of this ONE MAN'S CRUSADE however is something else entirely. There is no reason whatsoever for it to even be locally newsworthy yet here it is... being givingĀ  the kind of coverage as if it were a sanctioned act of congress being signed into law by President Obama himself!

And for some reason, you and others seem to want to BLAME him for actions of murders 6,000 miles away. Worse still, you wish to give Islam a different standard when it comes to how you can protest their religious beliefs!



Very true.

The media gave this guy a platform, without the media Terry Jones is ignored.

Islamist mobs slaughter infidels for lots of reasons its usually because they don't like infidels.

Limiting freedom of speech is a goal of Islamists.

It is fascinating to see Obama's Believers bend over backwards to accomodate Jihadis.

Obama's Left now seems to be calling for limitations on free speech in the USA so as not to offend Islamists in Afghanistan.

If Terry Jones wants to create havoc in Muslim nations he will keep repeating his behavior.

Terry Jones is being given huge power by the media, Islamists, Islamist apologists, and Obama.

Terry Jones now somehow controls bloodthirsty Muslim mobs like puppets and the media pulls the strings ...











RASIS -> RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? (4/3/2011 7:58:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Why is there even coverage?




Oh... I could think of a few reasons. I haven't seen any of this coverage though... I usually avoid things like religious book burning, torching of SUVs, bombing abortion clincs, etc.

On the other hand, it makes for great sensationalist news. I'm not immune to crazy news myself, that's what I'm always checking the newspaper from my hometown (online at least), we have far more nuttier criminals than anywhere else I've lived.

Besides, we haven't quite convinced everyone that America is has declared war on Islam. Thank heavens we have former senators reminding everyone that the crusades weren't anti-Islamic.




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