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U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/14/2011 11:05:31 PM

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The U.S. Act of 1871, I keep hearing about it of late but what is it ?

Of course I have Googled ,but I keep coming up with what I understand as something bordering on conspiratoral type stuff, but surely an Act of Congress is not the stuff of conspiracies or is it ?

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 12:11:41 AM

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Wiki's got it. It has been used a few times here and there successfully but not often. I'm not aware of any resurgence in it's mention lately but it wasn't my turn to watch. If there has been one it is probably because more and more people are viewing the actions of the government as unlawful, in fact even treasonous.

In the past people tried to sue using it, against public officials. And of course threw in the conspiracy statute of old because there are more than one. They didn't really get anywhere with it and the tactic is mainly abandonded. All they accomplished is to jam up the courts in some cases. And some held these trials in common law enclaves, but officials sued that way did not respond. They then took to putting civil leins on them, using this act. It worked a couple of times temporarily, but a few things got changed to put a stop to that.

It's probably just resurfacing now as the rank and file find themselves more an more disenchanted, even disenfranchised by the governmnet. A new crop, who will probably try it again and find out that is is just not going to work. How to make it work ? Well if someone figured that out things could be shaken up. That is beyond me, maybe RealO wants to give it a try. Fine, have a go at it but there is one problem. There has to be grounds. There is alot to prove, and it has to be public, something very hard to achieve these days. The court may cite the rights of the victims' and defendants' to privacy for cause to keep such a trial private, but they want to keep their own actions private for the most part. I've only met a couple of judges who are honest and do their job, don't ask out of how many. The system is that corrupt now, I don't think persuing this is likely to be effective.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:40:27 AM

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THE recurring theme in US history is a central bank. A privately owned central bank. Todays wars are connected to this said central bank.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 9:23:02 AM

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Wait a second, are you guys really blathering about the D.C. Act of 1871?

All this act did was reorganize the way the local government of D.C. worked. Everything else is paranoid fantasy.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 10:00:27 AM

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Ken- remember that when you buy groceries this month.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 4:55:07 PM

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All I know about things is they are often not what they seem, for there is a vast difference between what is legal and what is lawful

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 5:22:17 PM

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I have found two references to acts with 1871 in the title

First of all there is the following:

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H.R.1871 - Family Care Act of 2007

Family Care Act of 2007 - Amends the Internal Revenue Code to:
(1) increase the rate of the tax credit for expenses for household and dependent care services; and
(2) allow an inflation adjustment after 2007 to the adjusted gross income limitation applicable to such credit. Makes such increased tax credit permanent.

Prior to that there is this:

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The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 is an Act of Congress, which revoked the individual charters of the City of Washington, the City of Georgetown, and the County of Washington and created a new city government for the entire District of Columbia.[1] The legislation effectively merged what had been separate municipalities within the federal territory into a single entity. It is for this reason that the city, while legally named the District of Columbia, is still commonly known as Washington, D.C.

However, there are a lot of conspiracy sites that seem to use the the DC act of 1871 as some basis for various theories.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 5:49:02 PM

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the only thing that pops immediately into my head in the 1870's and I forget the case just this moment was the court case that changed the rights or privileges of corporations giving them more power as a living human severely impairing the rights of living humans to abolish their corporate charters etc.

Now corporations could be set up to last forever that we the people cannot do, with armour plating that we the people do not have, immunity that we the people do not have, hence the machine controls the creator.

It served to de-corporealize the living man transmutating the living man into a fiction (lowering the status of the living man in law to sue and be sued by corporations), but NOT EQUALLY conveying the UNALIENABLE RIGHTS of said man to the fiction.

When this is accomplished unalienable rights the same as a king or queen are reduced to civil privileges of a corporation or worse (even less rights) as a member of said corporation.

Of course the average Joe and Jane did not know what they did so no one marched, just like this last one they did last spring that so many ignoramuses cheered on.

Its approximately around that time they came up with the idea to convert the Christian name into a title that can be used as a negotiable instrument.

All blacks had to be "REGIS-tered" wherein the guv issued a certificate "ACKNOWLEDGING" the franchisement of what would become their their new property and evolve into a mandate for everyone.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:27:12 PM

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When was the last time a corporation - that a state pulled its charter.

Come on people- you are smart. I would like to know.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:40:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

When was the last time a corporation - that a state pulled its charter.

Come on people- you are smart. I would like to know.

It was on a Tuesday.

That'll be a nickel, please.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:41:18 PM

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well how they get you is put out false media reports.

1933 everyone has to turn in their gold.

NO not everyone had to turn in their gold, only federal citizens had to turn in their gold.

So when you turn in your gold or you get a birth certificate you now contracted around the constitution and VOLUNTARILY gave up your rights!

sneeky wabbits!

Hell the naturalization act of 1802 has not changed and cannot be changed by this congress because we no longer have a dejure congress and they have no authority to change it since they vacated their offices when they converted from a republic to a democracy.

Now there is a tidbit of advanced history and law for ya ;)

Thats right, we were created a republic and they converted us to a democracy without our permission.

um... whats that called again?

ta ta ta TREASON!

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:45:40 PM

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well how they get you is put out false media reports.

1933 everyone has to turn in their gold.

NO not everyone had to turn in their gold, only federal citizens had to turn in their gold.

So when you turn in your gold or you get a birth certificate you now contracted around the constitution and VOLUNTARILY gave up your rights!

sneeky wabbits!

Hell the naturalization act of 1802 has not changed and cannot be changed by this congress because we no longer have a dejure congress and they have no authority to change it since they vacated their offices when they converted from a republic to a democracy.

Now there is a tidbit of advanced history and law for ya ;)

Thats right, we were created a republic and they converted us to a democracy without our permission.

um... whats that called again?

ta ta ta TREASON!

Obama will never discuss pulling a corporate charter. EVER. It never comes up. I tried numerous times to get that into the debates. They can suck my dick. silver $43.05 at this hour.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:47:04 PM

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What happens when you pull a corporate charter?

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:51:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well how they get you is put out false media reports.

1933 everyone has to turn in their gold.

NO not everyone had to turn in their gold, only federal citizens had to turn in their gold.

So when you turn in your gold or you get a birth certificate you now contracted around the constitution and VOLUNTARILY gave up your rights!

sneeky wabbits!

Hell the naturalization act of 1802 has not changed and cannot be changed by this congress because we no longer have a dejure congress and they have no authority to change it since they vacated their offices when they converted from a republic to a democracy.

Now there is a tidbit of advanced history and law for ya ;)

Thats right, we were created a republic and they converted us to a democracy without our permission.

um... whats that called again?

ta ta ta TREASON!

Obama will never discuss pulling a corporate charter. EVER. It never comes up. I tried numerous times to get that into the debates. They can suck my dick. silver $43.05 at this hour.

I was waiting for the lunatic fringe to post on this topic.

Hunk, you are real have no clue as to what is law, fact or conspiracy. Both of you need to be on meds.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:51:18 PM

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What happens when you pull a corporate charter?

Hi Tazz, prior to 18??, a corporate charter was for a term of 10 years. It was required to serve the public interest... a typographical error changed all that.

There would be less malfeasance if the charters had to be renewed based on serving the public interest.... heck- you or I must renew our drivers license and passport.... we do not enjoy forever personhood- yet a corporation DOES.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 6:53:00 PM

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I think you misunderstood.

Lets back up for a moment. Why should a corporate charter be pulled?

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 7:34:12 PM

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I think you misunderstood.

Lets back up for a moment. Why should a corporate charter be pulled?

If GE had to have its charter renewed, they would be more responsible. The GE corporate charter should be pulled, along with JPM, GS, Bank of America, and BP.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 7:41:02 PM

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What happens when you pull a corporate charter?

poof they are gone!

they must disperse all funds of all their trust accounts.

and that moneyshould but wouldnt be refunded to the cits! LOL

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 7:42:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
I was waiting for the lunatic fringe to post on this topic.

why wait?

you have our permission to post any time you wish.

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RE: U.S. Act of 1871 ? - 4/15/2011 7:43:44 PM

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Haliburton, and Blackwater could also be pulled.

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