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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/4/2011 2:42:18 PM   
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Any one know where I can get my "give a damn" fixed?


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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/4/2011 6:38:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could it be he is trying to say , ( I am only guessing as I got bored after the third post to himself), the Muslim world will not rise at OBL's demise and that because despite the religious belief OBL often quoted to rally the idiots to the cause, he in fact really didn't give that much of a shit about it and that indicated by how much he admired and used Western and modern technology.

A true politician perhaps.

In which case, the Muslims are not the threat many make them out to be, but they like us have their wing nuts that need screwing down from time to time and perhaps the silent majority do their best in their own way to marginalise the nut jobs.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:21:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, latest piece of shit:  the Seals had orders to kill, not capture, Osama.  Wow!  Leaving aside the fact that he was never tried but assassinated, this means that al-Qaeda really has no secrets that we don't know.  A much scarier proposition is that it might mean that Osama knows that we know that al-Qaeda has no secrets that we don't know.  What do you do with such a problem.  You make sure no one else gets their hands on him and exposes the hoax the American government has perpetrated on us all to invade several countries and threaten dozens more.

So, what you do with this problem is you issue orders to kill, not capture, him.  Why?  Because he never had any value, since we have always known everything we already need to know about his paltry organization.  If this is the case, that Osama was not to be captured but eliminated, it would mean that the US government has led us a merry chase for a decade, pursuing smoke and bumping into mirrors, that we could have better spent those billions of dollars in creating a truly enlightened era where everyone has a job, a place to live, good food, appropriate medical care and an education to the limits of every student's capabilities.

Instead, we wasted our wealth right down to the Great Recession on unnecessary airport security and futuristic munitions, where Osama starred as the villain in a rather drab soap opera.  It's disgusting.  If this farce is what the government wants us to believe, that they didn't want to capture him but needed above all to kill him, to shut him up, then shame on them.  They're bigger idiots than we are.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:23:11 PM   
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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:25:36 PM   
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Any one know where I can get my "give a damn" fixed?


Oh Sweetness, if your give a damn is located beneath that colorful mesh, Im sure you will have plenty offering to help fix it.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:27:30 PM   
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Cool.  Well that settles it then, we're off for drinks.
And none of that skunkpiss that paases for beer in Europe, either. Give me an honest North Coast Old Rasputin Imperial Stout.


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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:31:01 PM   
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I’ve been lied to before...by experts.  It does not require much intelligence to consider that a high-value target like Osama bin Laden would not face a bullet...but a hypodermic.  Imagine all we could learn about al-Qaeda if we held Osama in a high-security, extrajudicial facility for the next five years.  After all, we captured and “detained” Osama’s own chauffeur for all the valuable secrets he possessed.  Why wouldn’t we prefer an Osama-class villain to waterboard on Tuesdays and Thursdays.  But even more important than wringing out all that deadly poison (which, strictly speaking, barely threatens the American way of life) is the surgical removal of his terrorist fangs over the Muslims’ evolving state of mind.



Tuesdays and Thursdays?

All the bars I go to have Waterboard Wednesdays.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:33:32 PM   
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I mean take a poll, most everyone is content to think it is in Las Vegas.


You mean it isn't?


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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 2:53:32 PM   
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They're bigger idiots than we are.


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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 3:07:11 PM   
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I’ve been lied to before...by experts.  It does not require much intelligence to consider that a high-value target like Osama bin Laden would not face a bullet...but a hypodermic.  Imagine all we could learn about al-Qaeda if we held Osama in a high-security, extrajudicial facility for the next five years.  After all, we captured and “detained” Osama’s own chauffeur for all the valuable secrets he possessed.  Why wouldn’t we prefer an Osama-class villain to waterboard on Tuesdays and Thursdays.  But even more important than wringing out all that deadly poison (which, strictly speaking, barely threatens the American way of life) is the surgical removal of his terrorist fangs over the Muslims’ evolving state of mind.




bhutto announced that he was dead over 6 years ago LOL



And it has been repeatedly proven that she misspoke since she later, on numerous occasions, said the opposite.

But that apparently is not going to stop you from spouting this nonsense over and over.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 3:11:50 PM   
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They're bigger idiots than we are.


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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 3:13:57 PM   
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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 6:09:35 PM   
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Oh, latest piece of shit:  the Seals had orders to kill, not capture, Osama. 


Logistics. Can you imagine trying to get a wounded 54 year-old man with kidney disease to a hospital modern enough to deal with him? In a helicopter? Can you imagine the uproar if he died in transport?

Did you stop to think and forget to start again?

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 6:15:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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Oh, latest piece of shit:  the Seals had orders to kill, not capture, Osama. 


Logistics. Can you imagine trying to get a wounded 54 year-old man with kidney disease to a hospital modern enough to deal with him? In a helicopter? Can you imagine the uproar if he died in transport?

Did you stop to think and forget to start again?


Worse blowback than just killing him? First post of yours that I think is way off the mark.

I said this was a kill mission from the start, its the only thing that makes sense given the Admin's constantly changing stories. The only uncertainty is why the charade. I can't come with anything better than he doesnt want to have soundbites of his condemning these kinds of actions and then him taking credit for it juxtaposed in the campaign.

Thats a lot harder to fight than speculation about the intelligence value of capturing him and the pros and cons of a military tribunal and execution.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 6:55:45 PM   
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Aside from the issue that this whole thing was just an effort to pander to the unions in the US. Please be consistent with your spin.




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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/6/2011 7:51:08 PM   
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Worse blowback than just killing him?


I think it would be. Possibly not from the Islamic countries but certainly from the Western countries. Instead of the Seuss book, Oh the Places You'll Go, we would have, Oh the Inquests You'll Have.

And can you imagine the Eight-thousand-nine-hundred-and fifty-seven tinfoil hat theories as opposed to just the One-thousand-two-hundred-and-ninety-two that we currently have?

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/9/2011 11:29:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Or, just as likely, the SEAL's had orders to capture him, because of the valuable intelligence he would provide under torture, but one of the SEAL's panicked and killed the old bird.  Then, the SEAL's covered up their incompetence by jettisoning Osama's body at sea.  Then, everyone involved cooked up their own version of what happened, so that the numerous inconsistencies gave birth to numerous conspiracy theories.  That's why no single SEAL was singled out for his extraordinary contribution by actually killing Osama.

Why?  Because they were sent to capture him, not kill him.  Our government is not so stupid as not to wipe its own ass after taking this big a shit.  If he's dead, which I doubt, we didn't go in there to kill him.  We fucked up.  If there was an Islamic ocean burial, which is freaking insane unless you're hiding evidence, then let's have a talk with the American-Muslim sailor who presided over Osama's Islamic service.

Obama is shooting himself in the foot with this cover-up

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/9/2011 11:33:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The SEAL's never had the body over water. He was flown out to the Vinson after the SEAL's got to their base. A muslim sailor prepared the body for burial and then he was buried at sea.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/9/2011 11:33:27 AM   
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Or, just as likely, the SEAL's had orders to capture him, because of the valuable intelligence he would provide under torture, but one of the SEAL's panicked and killed the old bird.  Then, the SEAL's covered up their incompetence by jettisoning Osama's body at sea.  Then, everyone involved cooked up their own version of what happened, so that the numerous inconsistencies gave birth to numerous conspiracy theories.  Our government is not so stupid as not to wipe its own ass after taking this big a shit.  If there was an Islamic ocean burial, which is freaking insane unless you're hiding evidence, then let's have a talk with the imam who presided over Osama's Islamic service...if such a person actually existed.


Yeah, Navy Seals are known for panicking under stress. 

We should have sent in Bond.  James Bond.

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RE: Obama vis a vis Osama - 5/9/2011 11:33:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think you're on the right track there, buddy.  I have it on good authority that it was Jimmy Hoffas body that was buried at sea there, and it was presided over by a lutheran pastor in a burka.

Don't know where the military fellows got the guns yet, that's going to take some time to track down.........

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