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missiveman -> Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:24:31 PM)

I have fantasized about this for years. My profile shows my kink in this area. However, I have been unable to get anyone seriously interested in my request. Why?
As far as legalities, that can be covered by a slave contract, even notarized, so that it is shown that this is my sincere desire. But all I get is pro dommes and women wanting me to sign up for other bondage sites.
I just want to be "forced" into sex slavery by a woman. That's all I want! Is that too much to ask?




DePubed -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:34:24 PM)

What if in your "forced sexual slavery" you HAD to orally service other MALES;
is your fantasy/need prepared for such a reality?

From my understanding, guys who fantasize about being a 'sex slave' intend that, once enslaved, THEY will orally service females,
and get penetrated with strap-ons by females;\
in other words these 'sex slaves' expect to live a life of sexual pleasure always being 'forced' to do what they enjoy doing anyway.

BUT if their Mistress/Owner wanted these 'sex slaves' to orally service other dudes, or be anally penetrated by other males,
these same 'sex slaves' are no longer interested.
My point is: why call it 'slavery' if the 'slave' only does what HE wants to do.

Is this all 'pretend' where the Lady can only give the 'commands' that the 'slave' allows her?




Lockit -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:42:13 PM)

How do you force the willing? What you can do is role play, but you can't force someone into something they want to do, especially with your so called legal protection. I can break the law and get you to sign and agree to it and it won't always hold up in court because I was breaking the law. A fantasy doesn't have to make sense, but in this, there would have to be something realistic and this is just too unrealistic because it can't be done. You can't force the willing with a disclaimer.

As to why some or most want nothing to do with it. It may not be the fantasy fulfillment they don't want any part of. It could be that you aren't making sense and you are sending off red flags to people. Many that are non pro may be wanting a realistic relationship, with fantasy play and see your view as only fantasy play and unrealistic.

Where the heck is my coffee... I need it now! lol




missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:42:38 PM)

DdPubed, yeah, but that's a hard limit. You're not supposed to push someone past their hard limits.
True, this is not "really" slavery, as you're supposed to do just what your Domme wants you to. But I'd like to get kidnapped by a Domme who's heterosexual, and not into threesomes. I think that's reasonable.




myotherself -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:43:42 PM)

oh dear, OP...

Strange though it may sound, women tend to prefer a guy who can offer more than just sex. And dominant women tend to want to do what THEY want, not what the sub wants.

Your profile screams 'DO ME!!!' in 16 feet high neon letters. The only women you're going to attract with that particular set of shiny lights will charge you for the pleasure.

If you really want an M/s relationship then you're going to have to bring a lot more to the table than just your cock.




MistressRosalyn -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:50:23 PM)

Damn. Where do I even start?




missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:50:35 PM)

Lockit, thanks for the reply. I realize that I am sending out red flags to people, but I can't help how I feel. I really want this, so it drives me all the time.
A word about the legalities: Once into this type of bondage, it won't matter to me anymore, I'll be completely helpless, which is what I want anyway. There won't be any court case, because we'll be into the thick of it for years and years. It would be all hush-hush.
As for fantasy play versus reality, I want out of reality, into a fantasy reality, permanently. I know this is scary for many people, but this is the ultimate fantasy that I seek.
Perhaps I could chat with a woman privately before this all takes place. I've thought about going to some munches to see if I can get anyone interested in it, so that they can see that I'm really serious about this. Maybe I'll do just that.




missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:55:57 PM)

myotherself, thanks so much. Yes, you're right, I need to bring a lot more to the table. I can earn a very respectable income over the Internet. Even with certain restrictions (like no email, so I can't send for help), I can still pay my own way. I even see that as part of my motivation: Earn so much money today, and you get a reward. Otherwise, CBT, chastity device, and torture. I do have a nice personality, IMHO, so I can be very friendly!




Ishtarr -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 1:59:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: missiveman

Lockit, thanks for the reply. I realize that I am sending out red flags to people, but I can't help how I feel. I really want this, so it drives me all the time.
A word about the legalities: Once into this type of bondage, it won't matter to me anymore, I'll be completely helpless, which is what I want anyway. There won't be any court case, because we'll be into the thick of it for years and years. It would be all hush-hush.
As for fantasy play versus reality, I want out of reality, into a fantasy reality, permanently. I know this is scary for many people, but this is the ultimate fantasy that I seek.
Perhaps I could chat with a woman privately before this all takes place. I've thought about going to some munches to see if I can get anyone interested in it, so that they can see that I'm really serious about this. Maybe I'll do just that.


It isn't that it's scary to people, it's that what you are suggesting is all about YOU and you have nothing to offer a woman.

You're older and not attractive, why on Earth would a woman want or need to force you to have sex with her?
Most women can get more sex than they can handle if they choose to have it.
They don't need to kidnap and force men into providing it to them.

If you live like a live-in kidnapped forced sex slave, you have basically rendered yourself useless to most women, because you are no longer offering ANY of the things women actually want in men, and instead expecting that she focusses on you, your desires and your kinks 24/7.

In fact, you don't even want your hard limits pushed, so a woman can't even ACTUALLY treat you like a FORCED sex slave.
So any woman who actually LIKES forcing men to have sex isn't right for you, because a woman isn't allowed to actually FORCE you to have sex.

You are therefor looking for a woman who will cater to your needs and PRETEND to enjoy forcing you to have sex in exactly the way YOU want, without being allowed to do anything SHE wants, and without having any of the benefits that usually come from having a relationship with a man...

And you're wondering why you can't find a woman to do this for you?
Seriously??? [8|]

Ishtar




missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:08:30 PM)

Ishtar, I appreciate your candor. Message received on the older and not attractive. Well, I'm not ugly, just not a James Bond type. Actually, some attractive women have actually told me that I am attractive, so I guess it depends on who's doing the looking.
My Domme wouldn't have to "service" me 24/7. I would expect to be left chained and locked up for many hours of the day, and to have many tasks assigned to me which must be accomplished by the time she gets home. I really don't have many hard limits at all, just homosexuality mainly. I'll do anything else, though. And that includes a whole gamut of things, including just about all the kinks listed on Collarme.
I just think that the right person has simply not come across my profile yet. When she does, I'll be ready. Maybe I'm dreaming, but that's the hope.




Killerangel -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:09:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missiveman

DdPubed, yeah, but that's a hard limit. You're not supposed to push someone past their hard limits.
True, this is not "really" slavery, as you're supposed to do just what your Domme wants you to. But I'd like to get kidnapped by a Domme who's heterosexual, and not into threesomes. I think that's reasonable.


Well, you think this is reasonable but no one is taking you up on it so there's a fundamental disconnect between what you think and real life. There are a million threads on here where submissive men come into this forum saying I only want abc, why is it so hard to find? What is usually at the root of that problem is that the men want someone to deliver their desire to them on a tray- they want something from the woman. Why would a woman who barely knows you want to do something that intimate for a stranger unless she's getting paid? Really....what's in it for her?




Killerangel -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:14:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missiveman

Lockit, thanks for the reply. I realize that I am sending out red flags to people, but I can't help how I feel. I really want this, so it drives me all the time.
A word about the legalities: Once into this type of bondage, it won't matter to me anymore, I'll be completely helpless, which is what I want anyway. There won't be any court case, because we'll be into the thick of it for years and years. It would be all hush-hush.
As for fantasy play versus reality, I want out of reality, into a fantasy reality, permanently. I know this is scary for many people, but this is the ultimate fantasy that I seek.
Perhaps I could chat with a woman privately before this all takes place. I've thought about going to some munches to see if I can get anyone interested in it, so that they can see that I'm really serious about this. Maybe I'll do just that.


And the highlighted phrase above says crazy person at the worst and one-track mind at best. I like more in a man than his one obsession. Actually I can't stand being around people that have one overriding passion in life, there is no room for me.

You keep defending yourself against the various comments you are getting but that defeats your purpose here then. If you do not want and reject opinions or advice on the subject that YOU brought to the table, then all I can tell you is that you are destined to be a lonely man for all of the reasons that the others have stated and for the biggest reason that you refuse to see why women are passing you by.




missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:18:50 PM)

Killerangel, good points. I know that I need certain things, and I have listed some of them. But surely there are women out there who crave to deliver this to a man, on their terms.
You say that men usually want women to deliver their wants to them on a tray. They want something from the woman. And you ask why would a woman do something so intimate with a complete stranger, unless she's getting paid to do it?
Let me ask you a question: Why are there so many women submissives, looking for dominant men? Aren't they wanting something from the man, and aren't there men willing to offer what they want, on a tray? As a matter of fact, there are far more women submissives than women dominants. I could go in that direction and be a dominant male, which I have desires to do. But my submissive side is much, much stronger in me.
My point is that there just have to be a few women dominants who want to kidnap and enslave a man. I'm just trying to find one, that's all.




missiveman -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:26:45 PM)

Killerangel, thanks for your points. Obviously, I'm driving people off. I have a lot to offer, so maybe I should change to profile to list my POSITIVE points, like my interests and what I'm really good at, and just MENTION the kinks. Do you think that would work better?




SweetDommes -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:40:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: missiveman

My point is that there just have to be a few women dominants who want to kidnap and enslave a man. I'm just trying to find one, that's all.


There probably are - but honestly, those who would do it, would probably leave your cold, mutilated and violated body in a ditch somewhere. Most realise that just because you don't plan to bring legal action against them, you may change your mind down the road ... and beyond that, it's illegal and someone, somewhere will find out - that could leave them open to blackmail and/or legal action anyway.

What you want is completely unrealistic. Period. Beyond that, it's not even remotely appealing as a temporary situation (which is all that it would ever work as) for any of the women who have replied on here so far. I would venture to guess that NONE of the lifestyle ladies who post on these boards would be willing to give you the time of day - because you only want one thing and you want it done your way. As someone else pointed out to you, that's not how most Dominants work.

Yes, there are lots of femsubs ... and in general, I've noticed that they are much more realistic in their expectations of their prospective Dominants than male subs are. When you become more realistic in your approach, you may (or may not - as there are many male subs on the boards who are still single despite being quite attractive personally) have more success.




crazyml -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:46:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: missiveman

Killerangel, thanks for your points. Obviously, I'm driving people off. I have a lot to offer, so maybe I should change to profile to list my POSITIVE points, like my interests and what I'm really good at, and just MENTION the kinks. Do you think that would work better?



Fuck yes. Otherwise there's a danger that people might get the impression that you're a total madwag.




crazyml -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:48:35 PM)

Bro,

What you want isn't unrealistic. But the quickest way to get it is going to be to pay for it.

My advice is to mix in the "and I'm fucking paying for this shit to happen to me" vibe into your fetish... make it part of the humiliation/control..

Good luck man.




Lockit -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 2:53:43 PM)

Why do I hear the music to the twighlight zone? And then.. and then... Bad girl, bad girl whatcha gunna do, whatcha gunna do when... they come for you? I must be nice.. I must be nice...

Dude... you're clueless. Years and years? You really have so much to offer kept in captivity? You don't know women very well do ya?

Just what I want... a guy that wants to escape life so much that he wants me to escape life too... no more family visits... no more life as I know it because I have this guy in the basement that I must hide and provide for. Even kids leave at some point. Damn! I like my men to have some stability and functioning social skills as well as brain cells.

Okay... I'm hot and the ice coffee didn't help.




crazyml -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 3:01:30 PM)


Just to clear this up...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit


Okay... I'm hot and the ice coffee didn't help.




The idea of enslaving our OP isn't what was making you hot... we're talking hot hot here, not hawt hot here?




Lockit -> RE: Kidnapping into sex slavery (5/9/2011 3:03:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml


Just to clear this up...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit


Okay... I'm hot and the ice coffee didn't help.




The idea of enslaving our OP isn't what was making you hot... we're talking hot hot here, not hawt hot here?


ROFL! Thank you for trying to cover my ass! I am hot from the lack of air conditioning... the rest you can decide for yourself, knowing I am not hot to capture some guy and make him mine by force.




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