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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:11:02 PM   
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lol...well you make me do it

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:14:49 PM   
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so a terrorist is only a terrorist if they bomb the USA?
That explains a lot




It does make it sound that way. But if it were true, then we wouldn't have had so many headlines on them when they were active over in the UK in the past. We also would not have made so many movies about it. People on these forums tend to talk about current events and I haven't heard of them doing anything recently. I doubt it has anything to do with one being irish and the other muslim.


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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:14:50 PM   
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You brought up Freedom fighter, tell me, is that the view you have of the IRA or any of their sub groups and emulators who have come to light recently ?

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:19:04 PM   
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Hamas is one of freedom fighters........
kurds in Iraq & turky are of freedom fighters.......
just saying, some get attention, some dont & yet they get killed by turky forces everyday,
Its really amazing what US presedent giving the green light .......... under the table.


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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:23:54 PM   
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Aneirin I think your question would make a good new thread. But for this one don't you think it rather silly to bring the IRA into this discussion? Because some Americans supported the IRA has nothing to do with Islamic terrorists attacking America and our persecution of them.

What are you trying to say?

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:43:36 PM   
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What are you trying to say?

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He asked you a direct question in post 23, which you have decided to ignore.

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:46:56 PM   
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I am not ignoring it politesub...I asked him what it had to do with Muslims. And why he doesn't start another thread.

Maybe you would like to tell me why you think the IRA has anything to do with this thread?

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:52:17 PM   
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quote:

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so a terrorist is only a terrorist if they bomb the USA?
That explains a lot




It does make it sound that way. But if it were true, then we wouldn't have had so many headlines on them when they were active over in the UK in the past. We also would not have made so many movies about it. People on these forums tend to talk about current events and I haven't heard of them doing anything recently. I doubt it has anything to do with one being irish and the other muslim.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_IRA/ONH
just in the past three years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_actions_%282000-2010%29
in the past ten years

I dont agree with Islam, I dont agree with Catholics or Protestants. I do see fanatics and funnymentalists on all sides being as bad as others. The numbers may not be equal, but then neither are the "justifications" firmly studied.
Like the news of the egyptian mob that killed 20 or more last weekend
Abduction of a convert was sited as the reason in the news
but that didnt matter to people more than the fact that muslims attacked christians.

The fact that there were injuries to both sides didnt matter either



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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 12:59:31 PM   
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I am not ignoring it politesub...I asked him what it had to do with Muslims. And why he doesn't start another thread.

Maybe you would like to tell me why you think the IRA has anything to do with this thread?

Butch


Yes you are, and you continue to do so. He asked you directly if you consider the IRA terrorists or freedom fighters.

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:23:37 PM   
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They were being funded by Americans (if not the American government), so obviously they're freedom fighters.
It might be more germane to ask why OBL wasn't a terrorist when he was killing the evil russkies in Afdghanistan instead of Americans...

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:26:03 PM   
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Ah... the British and their precious IRA - high horses and all that!

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:29:14 PM   
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aaaaaaah there we are...
that was unexpected wasnt it chaps?
Ya I thought not


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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:31:57 PM   
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Ah... the British and their precious IRA - high horses and all that!

Actually, the IRA consider themselves Irish separatists rather than British. That's why they were blowing stuff up in the first place, you'll find.

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:33:08 PM   
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British whingers after raping a nation for 700 years lol. Just kidding but stop moaning about the IRA when they have made peace with Britain. Even Jerry Adams was telling the offshoot of the IRA to go away and the entire community in NI (Republican and Unionist) expressed outrage at recent event.

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:34:40 PM   
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Here's a question for you: what was the first saint paddy's day this century Adams didn't spend being wined and dined at the white house, and why was that?

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:34:43 PM   
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can you imagine the screams of indignation had it been
Ah... the Americans and their precious Al-Quaeda - high horses and all that!


sometimes it really is better to remain quiet and appear to be a fool.


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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:37:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
can you imagine the screams of indignation had it been
Ah... the Americans and their precious Al-Quaeda - high horses and all that!


sometimes it really is better to remain quiet and appear to be a fool.

When the provisional IRA cause gargantuan acts of terror like jamming planes into skyscrapers then we can talk about comparisons!

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:37:21 PM   
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.......we are all the same, seeking the same goals in life. The only difference I perceived of the Muslims I met and knew, was a sense of honour and trust, something which is becoming in short supply in the west these days, now if those qualities come from adherance to Islam, then I can see it is not the filth the rabid make it out to be.............




Quite a broad brush, Aneirin.

There are honorable and trustworthy people in every religion, and non-religious people can be moral without believing in God.

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:39:05 PM   
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We've had exclusion zones around our cities since the '70s to prevent that happening.
About the only thing of worth we've got out of the alleged 'special relationship" since the war, really.

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RE: If You are Afraid of Muslims.......... - 5/12/2011 1:39:20 PM   
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Ah, I see, so it's the method of a terrorist attack that makes it mean something to you, not the fact that innocent people have been murdered for a political ideal ?

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