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ORIGINAL: TheCabal

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ORIGINAL: No. While the votes cast are secret every polling place does track who voted, it is a simple check to prevent people from voting multiple times. If a fraudulent ACORN registration had ever voted we'd know about it. Breitbart, O'Keefe and the rest of the right wing scum would trumpet it continuously.

You are welcome to waste your time trying to find any such occurence but I've done the research and there has been no such cases.

Except that polling place tracks who voted based on the voter registration rolls - which ACORN has been so busily filling up with dummy voters.  Which is the entire reason presenting ID has become important.  So that when someone comes in and claims to be I.P. Freely, they need to have an ID that verifies that's who they are. 

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
And since you are all knowing, exactly how many states, and include which ones, allow a voter to show up, simply state their name and vote?

Now you're just projecting. 

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Then go find a single one. That's all it takes one single fraudulent vote cast.

The simple fact is that very few fraudulent registrations survive the registration process, for instance in Illinois you get a card mailed to you when you register which is not forwarded and if it is returned undelivered your registration is challenged.

The fact is a lot of right wingers spent a lot of time and money trying to prove that one ACORN registration voted illegally and they never found a single one.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

there is far too much money to be made by th epresumption that everyone is a cit.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Then go find a single one. That's all it takes one single fraudulent vote cast.

The simple fact is that very few fraudulent registrations survive the registration process, for instance in Illinois you get a card mailed to you when you register which is not forwarded and if it is returned undelivered your registration is challenged.

The fact is a lot of right wingers spent a lot of time and money trying to prove that one ACORN registration voted illegally and they never found a single one.

As I have already explained, being able to single out a fraudulent vote in a secret ballot election is all but impossible, without the fraudster making his fraud public.  For OBVIOUS reasons.

However there is this to contemplate:

Here's a map of voter demographics in Phildelphia for the 2000 presidential election

It details voter turn out by precinct, including the number of people the census found in that precinct, the number of registered voters, and the election results for that precinct.  What we find looking at these maps are all sorts of impossibilities.  For example, Ward 5, Precinct 1, which the census says contained 482 residents, 1159 of whom are registered to vote, and 496 of whom voted for Gore.  Or Ward 27, Precinct 18, which had 82 residents, 865 of whom are registered, and which produced 177 votes for Gore.  When a precinct with 82 residents, produced 177 votes for Al Gore, there's a problem.  Whether it's a record keeping problem, or a fraud problem, I can't tell you, and I won't be able to tell you and respect the secret ballot.  But ACORN's activities make it that much harder to figure out where the error is - and thus it undermines our elections.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Bullshit. It's real simple. Find a person who does not exist who was registered by ACORN and then voted. A secret ballot does not keep anyone from tracking who shows up at polls to vote. In the real world most candidates even send poll watchers to the polling places to track how well their GOTV efforts worked.

As to using 1990 census data to figure vote turnout in 2000? Get real. The census is at best an estimate and is notoriously inaccurate in the inner city. and 10 year old census data?

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Bullshit. It's real simple. Find a person who does not exist who was registered by ACORN and then voted. A secret ballot does not keep anyone from tracking who shows up at polls to vote. In the real world most candidates even send poll watchers to the polling places to track how well their GOTV efforts worked.

As to using 1990 census data to figure vote turnout in 2000? Get real. The census is at best an estimate and is notoriously inaccurate in the inner city. and 10 year old census data?

I realize your ideology is preventing you from looking at that map, but it was complied in 2002-04, and used the 2000 census data (the same year as the election), not the 1990 data.  It clearly demonstrates that there are precincts where there are more voters registered, and more people voted than there are known residents.  I can't tell you whether this is due to ACORN (or some similar organization's) related fraud, or an inaccurate census, but the discrepancies point to significant vote fraud, and can't be ignored just because you love Obama. 

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he Ed Show...another fucking liar, on just about every topic. "Voter Suppression" lmao....if you dont have a fucking ID you cant drive, you cant work, you cant have a bank account, you cant get welfare.

If IDs are required you cant vote twice, you cant vote if youre dead, you cant vote if youre not a citizen.

If youve got a problem with IDs for voting, move to a country where the elections are determined ahead of time.

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I would like to see the exact count for the census in Philadelphia. Seems there is no census data for the 5th ward there, or they dont list it as such.

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They prove nothing.

I'm telling you that people on your side have spent a lot of time and money trying to find a fraudlent vote that could be connected to ACORN and all they could do was fake some videos of a guy dressed like a 70's pimp.

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You mean to tell me this information is only contained on a map?

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They prove nothing.

I'm telling you that people on your side have spent a lot of time and money trying to find a fraudlent vote that could be connected to ACORN and all they could do was fake some videos of a guy dressed like a 70's pimp.

Seriously?!?  We know ACORN is active in Philly.  We know ACORN pads voter registration rolls.  And we know more people are registered and turned out to vote in several precincts than are known to live in those precincts. 

Is it possible this is due to errors with the census? Yes.  Is it likely?  Not when this is exactly the sort of thing we know ACORN has set out to achieve.