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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/29/2011 9:40:21 PM

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Hey LadyHib, I don't know the guy from Adam, he could be Charlie Sheen for all I know. I'm just going by the things he's said. For example:

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In my personal experience, it is easy to find women who want to be tied up and whipped, but it is extremely difficult to find women who like to be whipped, but who are also willing to spank me say 10% of the time, and still view me with respect.

And RedMagic...

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People would rather say I am posting for a "reason" instead of providing scientific data to contradict.

Maybe if you presented some scientific data for us to contradict we might actually think there wasn't some ulterior motive.

Anyway, I'm off now. Heather, thanks for a good 1st thread, I'm sorry we derailed it on you.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/29/2011 9:40:30 PM

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And thank you, LH, that was kind of you to say. Have a good night.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/29/2011 9:56:26 PM

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Arpig, I was paid for years to give presentations about economic conditions in churches and schools. If you would like to dial down the personal whatever, I will have a conversation with you sometime. People who know a lot about this stuff think I know a lot about this stuff. I believe, however, that if I had stated my own position, without any reference to any other poster, I would not be getting all this flak. I choose to be open about romantic setbacks I have had because I hope people can learn from them. Some people might choose to use those facts as weapons against me online, but that is a risk anyone runs who chooses to be honest and open.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/29/2011 10:09:56 PM

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he said he was talking about "masculine men" and "feminine women."

Might be interesting to note that people define those terms in various ways.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/29/2011 10:26:53 PM

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Tazzy, I'm sorry, but I don't want to get into definitions of someone else's terms on top of everything else. I think what happened is that I defended the position of a very unpopular poster, and my intelligence, manhood,sexual habits and research skills were called into question, when I stated a sociological position, and didn't attack anyone. I don't tend to follow long, argumentative threads, and I think there must have been some major history or payback that was in the air, and I was the lucky recipient. In any case, I enjoyed *your* posts! :)

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/29/2011 10:29:05 PM

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Last thing I want to do is get into a debate about definitions as well. Just pointing out the fact that we all define masculine and feminine in different ways. I dont believe there is much to debate about that.

And thank you for the compliment.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:04:19 AM

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Tazzy, I'm sorry, but I don't want to get into definitions of someone else's terms on top of everything else. I think what happened is that I defended the position of a very unpopular poster, and my intelligence, manhood,sexual habits and research skills were called into question, when I stated a sociological position, and didn't attack anyone. I don't tend to follow long, argumentative threads, and I think there must have been some major history or payback that was in the air, and I was the lucky recipient. In any case, I enjoyed *your* posts! :)

This is pretty much on point. It's a shame you were caught in the crossfire. I find it all somewhat bizarre because the only person I was responding to - with a degree of civility I thought - was the OP, so I'm not sure how you became a target except you simply had the temerity to express your opinion without following the party line.

Put bluntly, yes, a few people are working out their issues. Any woman who asserts that a man who feels emasculated by losing his job has severe issues is not only ignorant when it comes to the opposite sex, but also clearly harbours a degree of hatred for them. I pity any man foolish enough to be caught in the orbit of someone whose value system is so warped.

This is the inherent danger in cliques. The group-think which accompanies them becomes a straightjacket of oppression which simply does not tolerate anyone who goes against the prevailing orthodoxy. The fact that some of the worst offenders are apparently given free passes for bad behaviour while anyone who takes them on is slapped with a ban tends to result in a board dominated by truly nasty pieces of work instead of thoughtful commentators who can reason.

Given the somewhat tentative nature of the OP, I've taken things relatively easy in this thread. Personally, I felt it'd be in poor taste for it to degenerate into a shit-fight. The fact that several posters couldn't conduct themselves with a similar level of civility is a savage indictment of their level of maturity.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:36:41 AM

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What I’m thinking is that this difference is a very fundamental one: male dominance is physically based and female dominance is mentally based.

"Female dominance" is mentally based out of necessity because wimmin are physically weak. And they lack penetrating organs. Strap-ons are a joke, give me a break. From the profiles of so-called female doms I've read on this site, I gather that "female dominance" simply consists of acting like a massive bitch. The equivalent for a man would be to act like a tyrannical 8 year old.

Male dominance can be either physically or mentally based, or both. Most "female doms" want to act like bitches and get away with it; this is a common female fantasy. Most male doms just want to get sex under their own terms, instead of the female's, which is basically impossible in non-BDSM relationships.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:38:12 AM

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And you guys thought I was bad. All of a sudden, I'm feeling like a moderate. It's disturbing and vaguely metro.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:39:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aderious

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather
What I’m thinking is that this difference is a very fundamental one: male dominance is physically based and female dominance is mentally based.

"Female dominance" is mentally based out of necessity because wimmin are physically weak. And they lack penetrating organs. Strap-ons are a joke, give me a break.

Male dominance can be either physically or mentally based, or both.

However at present females have political dominance, due to the feminisation of society.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:41:23 AM

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However at present females have political dominance, due to the feminisation of society.

Right. Which enables large numbers of wimmin to fulfill their bitch fantasies.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:44:39 AM

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nm - I didn't realise where this was - I'm not helping to spam up Heather's thread with this shit.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:45:57 AM

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However at present females have political dominance, due to the feminisation of society.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 3:52:30 AM

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True. A lot of males disappear every year, never to be seen again. At the same time, there's an epidemic of obesity amongst women. The reason why is clear: women everywhere are killing and eating their boyfriends and husbands. But the PC brigade is so powerful that the police never investigate it and it never makes it into the newspapers.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 4:00:48 AM

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nm - I didn't realise where this was - I'm not helping to spam up Heather's thread with this shit.

Find me a self-styled "female dominatrix" who doesn't use blatantly misandrist rhetoric as part of her sales pitch. I've read a number of such profiles on this site and I have yet to come across one.

Sites like this confirm that "female dominance" is all about degrading and insulting the male sex:
http://www.saharaheve.com/blog/

So, given that, why shouldn't male dominance be misogynistic? Can you give me any good reasons?

The most pathetic thing about female Doms is that, while they like to boss around submissive males, you can be absolutely sure that they have (or have had) an asshole boyfriend at home who keeps them in line when other people aren't looking.

Just as statistics show that the vast majority of self-proclaimed "lesbians" have had male sexual partners (i.e., they're faking it), I'd wager that 100% of attractive female dommes have been in relationships with men where they were the submissive partner. Some will even go so far as to admit in their own profiles that they're "only looking for submissives" because "they already have a boyfriend." In other words, they already have a dominant male in their lives.

There is far more evidence to support the assertion that wimmin need to be dominated by men than vice versa. Likewise, there is far more evidence to support the assertion that female dommes despise the male sex than the reverse. Probably 50% or more of male doms just want to get laid under their own terms, as I previously stated. They are not driven by pure hatred of the opposite sex, as nearly 100% of female dommes seem to be.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 4:14:06 AM

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Add to that the fact that the vast, vast majority of females literally cannot live without receiving male attention. To deprive them of it would be akin to depriving them of oxygen. When they finally lose it due to old age, they go completely nuts. A 20 year old female has nothing in common with a 50 year old female, except that they're both highly irrational and emotionally driven. A 50 year old man, on the other hand, is a 20 year old man with a few wrinkles. Men don't change, because they develop actual personalities. Women don't, hence they change every hour.

You have to laugh at these female supremacy sites which advocate the elimination of all men and then use graphics of attractive, bimbo-type females in an attempt showcase female empowerment. Bimbo's only exist because men find them attractive. Wimmin are shaped and sculpted by men, not the other way around. Without men around to give them attention wimmin would get fatter and uglier even earlier than they currently do. They have absolutely no internal drive or motivation. Their entire motivation is external, and it comes from their deep urge to be attention whores. One look at the photos of actual, real-life feminists tells you all you need to know.

Pop-Quiz:
Q: What does a masculinist male look like?
A: Arnold Schwarzenegger

Q: What does a feminist female look like?
A: Andrea Dworkin.

The epitome of female empowerment right there. Really says everything about wim's rights and "female domination" in one picture.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 4:23:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aderious

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

nm - I didn't realise where this was - I'm not helping to spam up Heather's thread with this shit.

Find me a self-styled "female dominatrix" who doesn't use blatantly misandrist rhetoric as part of her sales pitch. I've read a number of such profiles on this site and I have yet to come across one.

Sites like this confirm that "female dominance" is all about degrading and insulting the male sex:
http://www.saharaheve.com/blog/

So, given that, why shouldn't male dominance be misogynistic? Can you give me any good reasons?

The most pathetic thing about female Doms is that, while they like to boss around submissive males, you can be absolutely sure that they have (or have had) an asshole boyfriend at home who keeps them in line when other people aren't paying attention.

Just as statistics show that the vast majority of self-proclaimed "lesbians" have had male sexual partners, I'd wager that 100% of attractive female dommes have been in relationships with men where they were the submissive partner. Some will even go so far as to admit in their own profiles that they're "only looking for submissives" because "they already have a boyfriend." In other words, they already have a dominant male in their lives.

There is far more evidence to support the assertion that wimmin need to be dominated by men than vice versa. There is also far more evidence to support the assertion that female doms legitimately despise men more than male doms legitimately despise wimmin. Probably 50% or more of male doms just want to get laid under their own terms, as I previously stated. They are not driven by pure hatred of the opposite sex, as are female dommes.

Excellent post.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 4:24:09 AM

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Add to that the fact that the vast, vast majority of females literally cannot live without receiving male attention. To deprive them of it would be akin to depriving them of oxygen. When they finally lose it due to old age, they go completely nuts. A 20 year old female has nothing in common with a 50 year old female, except that they're both highly irrational and emotionally driven. A 50 year old man, on the other hand, is a 20 year old man with a few wrinkles. Men don't change, because they develop actual personalities. Women don't, hence they change every hour.

You have to laugh at these female supremacy sites which advocate the elimination of all men and then use graphics of attractive, bimbo-type females in an attempt showcase female empowerment. Bimbo's only exist because men find them attractive. Wimmin are shaped and sculpted by men, not the other way around. Without men around to give them attention wimmin would get fatter and uglier even earlier than they currently do. They have absolutely no internal drive or motivation. Their entire motivation is external, and it comes from their deep urge to be attention whores. One look at the photos of actual, real-life feminists tells you all you need to know.

Pop-Quiz:
Q: What does a masculinist male look like?
A: Arnold Schwarzenegger

Q: What does a feminist female look like?
A: Andrea Dworkin.

The epitome of female empowerment right there. Really says everything about wim's rights and "female domination" in one picture.

Haha I just spat out my coffee. Brilliant!

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 4:30:35 AM

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This.

Edited to add: Oh dear...I didn't realize it was going to be so...big. :)

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 4:33:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aderious

The epitome of female empowerment right there. Really says everything about wim's rights and "female domination" in one picture.

Uhm...there are two pictures there. :)

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