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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 10:51:40 AM

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And dismissing her as a decent human being deserving the company of other decent human beings is really over the top.

Eh. It's reality. If I said fuck 24/7/365, people would take me much less seriously. And, on some level, they would have a point. It would be an indication that I cared more about my own comfort in speaking than I did about theirs in listening to me. A mature, empathetic person needs to be able to consider both.

I think you are correct in the social circles you travel in, I think that if you traveled in different circles you would be wrong.

Not everyone that speaks without incorporating the F word is a decent person, and not everyone who uses it is indecent.

To me a decent person is someone that doesn't make a habit of deceiving others in hurtful ways, tries to pull their own weight, wants to become a better person today than they were yesterday, offers wisdom that they have in their own unique way, and is capable of love.

Show me where Hannah's post depart from my personal definition of "decency"? I haven't seen it, and even if there were one or two that did, by and large she follows that path.... none of us are 100% "decent" all of the time.

We all grow and change at our own pace, and who I was at 28 is far different than who I am today in my ability to consider others, even if I am naturally empathetic to them, and not everyone is a natural empath. And few of us have great maturity at that age... nor should we.... life is about the lessons, and if we are at the finish line at 30, what the hell do we do with the rest of the time we have left?

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 10:54:27 AM

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thanks angel. a lot of what you say makes sense. some i don't fucking agree with, but a lot i do.

i am making a deliberate effort to encounter men in a different context than the one i used to. as for men proving themselves to me, well i think i stated somewhere else that i do the same with women, they just start out in a different box. why? because i've met very, very few women who are evil fucks. granted i was in a position to meet more men who were, do you think maybe that's why i am doing what i'm doing. lilly does the same fucking thing, so do others. everybody does it. you just start them in a different box than i do. i don't think they have any right to require me to start by assuming they are decent, i think asking them to be decent first is fair.

if i have to be somebody other than who i fucking am in order for men to show me they are decent, then that's really fucking sad, because to me that just reinforces the idea that they are wearing masks. if i'm all nice and sweet, they will wear the nice guy mask, but if i'm rude and bitchy, they'll put on a different one. not fucking going there, self-defeating exercise if you ask me.

again thanks, i'll take what you said about seeking a better class of people in general into consideration, and see if i can come up with some concrete fucking strategies for doing so.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 10:56:42 AM

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As if the only way "we can prove ourselves" is to trudge through years of shit with the patience of a Saint just so we can get to the yummy center of her tootsie roll self.

no, i said it before for fuck's sake. all any man has to do to prove he's a decent human being is be one. that's all i asked, and i don't think that's fucking unreasonable.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 10:56:53 AM

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Julia, I'm not going to respond directely to you, especially not after the Mod warning about discussing the character of another poster. Hannah Lynn will have to decide for herself the level of esteem I hold her in, based on how I treat her.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 10:58:54 AM

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Actually I wasn't assuming anything..I said "I suspect" and haven't treated you any different and haven't responded to you as if you were the same person.

If you want to take it as a complement then that's fine..Even If you are the same person, your intelligence stands on it's own then.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:03:34 AM

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no, i said it before for fuck's sake. all any man has to do to prove he's a decent human being is be one. that's all i asked, and i don't think that's fucking unreasonable.

Decent people rarely feel the need to prove it. They are more likely to think that people will be able to see it without having to make it obvious. The issue is, I'm not so sure people would get a chance to do that with you because of your bitterness. People aren't saints at all.. We all are fallible creatures and if you're looking for the bad or expecting it to come soon then you'll no doubt see it.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:05:13 AM

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Hannah likes her sailor language, but if you had any sort of discernment you would be able to see the obvious intellect she has, and her command of language is on par with the best and most articulate people on this site...

Closed minds are small minds

According to your logic, Julia the below quote is not offensive because the OP's intelligent enough to let this slide, correct?

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if you don't fucking like me and the way i fucking post, then shut the fuck up and block me bitch.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:09:27 AM

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I know she has good

thanks. and just so you know, i don't think you are one of the total shits (maybe 40% shit

).

i like your add-on to the analogy. i may not be all blood and shit, but there's a fuck of a lot of that in the final layers. maybe i just need a fucking firehose, eh?

like aynne said, you do call it the way you fucking see it. you come across as an arrogant bastard, but then again i come across as an arrogant bitch, but i think that's just us being us. arrogant isn't bad, and neither is bastard. you seem both intelligent and honest, that's the impression i get of you from here at any rate. i doubt we'd like each other in person, but that dislike i think would be based on substantial things, not surface details.

i'm not wanting all men to like me or want a fucking thing to do with me. i do, however want the men i do interact with to be the type so many say most are. i've avoided the places where the men i used to interact with are found, but i still see the same fucking attitudes in most men i meet. what angel said about looking for better men rather than the good in shitty men has struck a fucking chord. i just have to keep looking. and if i find shit, realize i'm in an outhouse, and look elsewhere.
well i have to go to work now (fucking work!!), i'll be back later to pick up where i left off.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:11:44 AM

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I think if people do not like the way others post, they should block them. It is what I do...

I do not think that calling someone a "bitch" in any way other than a joking one is considered within the TOS, and the mods handle those things the way they feel is appropriate...

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:18:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I think if people do not like the way others post, they should block them. It is what I do...

"Your opinion has been registered... " ... etc etc.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I do not think that calling someone a "bitch" in any way other than a joking one is considered within the TOS, and the mods handle those things the way they feel is appropriate...

Where "appropriate" in this case means not banning someone for attacks that would see almost anyone else, and certainly anyone male, banned or per-post moderated.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:20:35 AM

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thanks. and just so you know, i don't think you are one of the total shits (maybe 40% shit).

Hey I'm not a total tird on Hannah's rectum scale of life..Yay me! Meh..I am what I am'z

I heard this said some time back "Arrogance that can be backed up isn't arrogance but confidence" I like to think I'm a very confident person in most areas.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:21:45 AM

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I'm a man of some hellava prospects myself.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:23:29 AM

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I'm a man of some hellava prospects myself.

Do you mind? I'm about to go out for dinner :)

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:23:44 AM

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Where "appropriate" in this case means not banning someone for attacks that would see almost anyone else, and certainly anyone male, banned or per-post moderated.

You get a glimpse of a person's mind when they begin to protect the others wrong doing when it's obvious it's wrong.

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:30:44 AM

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Where "appropriate" in this case means not banning someone for attacks that would see almost anyone else, and certainly anyone male, banned or per-post moderated.

You get a glimpse of a person's mind when they begin to protect the others wrong doing when it's obvious it's wrong.

Indeed.

Conversely some people, like Aynne and LP, still manage to take a calm, reasoned, view of things. I genuinely admire that quality in a person.

You've been rather thoughtful yourself, in a slightly wistful way ... have you been at the stem cells or monkey glands recently? ;)

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RE: guys suck, but i'm not a man-hating dyke - 6/17/2011 11:30:45 AM

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I think we're done here.

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