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defiantbadgirl -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 3:17:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: petselkie

I was browsing random profiles and found an interesting/disturbing trend. Came across the profiles of several girls around the age of 18/19 who said they were looking for a full time live in slave position. They are so young I have to wonder if they actually want TPE relationships and to really be someone's slave or if they think it is a good way to get a place to live with free room and board (without having to get a job) in exchange for sex. What do you think?


Maybe they're college students trying to minimize student loan debt without flunking out of college. Students who work have less time to complete homework and study for exams. Not everyone wants to attend college part time and take 10 years to get a bachelors. A good Master will be more understanding of homework and exams than most bosses.



defiantbadgirl -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 3:21:38 PM)


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sexisubi -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 3:27:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: petselkie

I was browsing random profiles and found an interesting/disturbing trend. Came across the profiles of several girls around the age of 18/19 who said they were looking for a full time live in slave position. They are so young I have to wonder if they actually want TPE relationships and to really be someone's slave or if they think it is a good way to get a place to live with free room and board (without having to get a job) in exchange for sex. What do you think?


Maybe they're college students trying to minimize student loan debt without flunking out of college. Students who work have less time to complete homework and study for exams. Not everyone wants to attend college part time and take 10 years to get a bachelors. A good Master will be more understanding of homework and exams than most bosses.




you know... that is an awesome point!



sexyred1 -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 3:32:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: petselkie

I was browsing random profiles and found an interesting/disturbing trend. Came across the profiles of several girls around the age of 18/19 who said they were looking for a full time live in slave position. They are so young I have to wonder if they actually want TPE relationships and to really be someone's slave or if they think it is a good way to get a place to live with free room and board (without having to get a job) in exchange for sex. What do you think?


I don't find it all that disturbing.

After all, there is a supply and demand situation at play here.

The girls are offering what all the profiles of men asking for a live in no limits, TPE slave who will do whatever they say and not work are asking for.

Quid pro quo.



juliaoceania -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 3:54:41 PM)

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whoow whooow... read above sweetheart, i completely love stay at home moms. i dont even know you, why would i be talking about you?


I was using myself as an example, I did not take it personal.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 5:17:14 PM)

to the person who said motherhood is work, it's sad that more people don't agree.

if i ever have kids, i wouldn't mind staying home to take care of them; that's a pretty fulfilling, very necessary job.
if that's unfeasible, however, then work i would.

i don't think everyone who wants to be a live in slave is a mooch, especially considering that many of them keep spotless houses, run all sorts of errands, and cook glorious meals. at the same time, though, there ARE those who profess "stay at home slavery" in an attempt to avoid dealing with the real world. as with anything, there are those who use their powers for good, and those who use them for evil. a blanket statement like "slave or mooch?" isn't going to work.



gungadin09 -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 5:28:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: petselkie

I was browsing random profiles and found an interesting/disturbing trend. Came across the profiles of several girls around the age of 18/19 who said they were looking for a full time live in slave position. They are so young I have to wonder if they actually want TPE relationships and to really be someone's slave or if they think it is a good way to get a place to live with free room and board (without having to get a job) in exchange for sex. What do you think?


Out of curiosity, do you have the same opinion of housewives?

pam



juliaoceania -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 5:32:14 PM)

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i don't think everyone who wants to be a live in slave is a mooch, especially considering that many of them keep spotless houses, run all sorts of errands, and cook glorious meals. at the same time, though, there ARE those who profess "stay at home slavery" in an attempt to avoid dealing with the real world. as with anything, there are those who use their powers for good, and those who use them for evil. a blanket statement like "slave or mooch?" isn't going to work.


I would agree with this...if you are doing work, even if it is unpaid, you are not mooching.

At the same time about 7 years ago I was on alt and I talked to a wealthy man who had a couple of very young slaves. He enjoyed the sex with them, but both times it got old fast because they were looking for someone to take care of them like their parents had. They were not in either case willing to grow intellectually or emotionally. He felt as though the situation in both cases kept them from growing up and he ended it. Neither of these girls even knew how to cook a meal, much less keep a house. He said he felt like he was taking care of very young wee ones, and he admitted to me that he had been thinking with his small head instead of his big one.

I was in my mid 30s, and I was a good 15 years younger than he was, and to be honest, I found him to be unattractive to me, he looked kinda like Danny Devito, so I am thinking he was being honest with himself when he stated he realized these girls were into him to be taken care of.

I do not know if it is accurate to call such situations "mooching". I do think it is not necessarily in the best interest of the submissive to be cared for in such a way from such a young age. I think that most of us need experiences like working out in the world, learning new things, challenging ourselves, in order to mature. People are adults, and they can do what it is that they like, but keeping someone sheltered isn't doing them any favors necessarily, either



StrongSpirit -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 6:21:48 PM)

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I was browsing random profiles and found an interesting/disturbing trend. Came across the profiles of several girls around the age of 18/19 who said they were looking for a full time live in slave position. They are so young I have to wonder if they actually want TPE relationships and to really be someone's slave or if they think it is a good way to get a place to live with free room and board (without having to get a job) in exchange for sex. What do you think?


I know some women that are looking for a full time live in NON-SLAVE position. Worse, they want a termination clause of half your living. They call it a 'traditional marriage'.

First of all, I don't think either the slave or non-slave version is fake. Those people exist and they want it.

Second of all, I don't judge them. They have the right to want what they want. If someone is willing to give it to them, that's fine. But I would only do that if they were getting a college education - and a cheap one if I were the one paying.

Third of all, most people (both men and women, slave and vanilla) want more than what these people are looking for. In general, people have more ambition than a 'lump'.

Fourthly, there is an old saying:

People that marry for money EARN every bit of it Maintaining a relationship with someone you don't love, doing something you don't like, for any length of time is very hard work. Even if you do love them, it isn't easy.



erieangel -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 7:31:15 PM)

I don't think there are very many 18-19 year olds who are self-aware enough to know what they want. but hey, slavery sounds kool to them so they'll try it.



peppermint -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/22/2011 11:45:13 PM)

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Came across the profiles of several girls around the age of 18/19 who said they were looking for a full time live in slave position.


I also frequently run across similar profiles written by male subs.  Many wish to be caged 24/7 or disappear from the world, never to be seen again.  Many of these men are in their 30s and 40s. 



SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/23/2011 1:20:29 AM)

If they are what you want, than negotiate what you need. If not, no point in assuming things. M



LadyConstanze -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/23/2011 5:26:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

If they are offering their pussies up for room and board, I would hardly call it "free" room and board, they are working for it



I'd say they're stupid, if they don't mind offering their bodies in exchange for room and board, they should turn professional and they'd possibly earn more. Though I don't think women don't realize that, most likely guys who get off pretending to be girls.



DesFIP -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/23/2011 6:46:23 AM)

You could view it from the other side too. Some guy who wants a girl to cook and clean for him, not being allowed to get an education, not getting any career training, not even getting a salary. Then some years later, he gets tired of her and kicks her out and she has nothing.

So who is the leech here? Depends how you view it.



LillyBoPeep -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/23/2011 7:07:28 AM)

good point, Des.



littleone35 -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/23/2011 10:21:05 AM)

That is too young to know what they are saying 18-19  how much can they really know about what a 24 hour live in slave would do.  Can they cook?  can they keep a house?  Good questions.  I guess having a sex toy could be fun for a while, but if that is all she is, once he gets tired of his "toy" and want a newer model she is out on the streets with no skills and not many options.

Matt's littleone



UberBrat -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/25/2011 12:26:50 PM)

I suspect they neither want TPE, nor do they want free lodgings and food etc.
I strongly suspect that, actually, TPE seems wonderful, and pretty darn hot - as a fantasy.  They may well believe, at the time, that is what they truly want, but I expect to 90% of them, it is just a wildly hot fantasy.



MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/26/2011 11:56:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

You could view it from the other side too. Some guy who wants a girl to cook and clean for him, not being allowed to get an education, not getting any career training, not even getting a salary. Then some years later, he gets tired of her and kicks her out and she has nothing.

So who is the leech here? Depends how you view it.



True... and in truth, that's likely a risk with just about any "traditional" relationship. 

With regard to the OP, though... I'd guess the bulk of the profiles they're referring to are fake. 

[:)]




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/27/2011 1:31:16 AM)

Or maybe they realize that being a full time live in slave brings a salary of about 40 thousand a year if you do the math of having a maid service, personal chef, personal assistant, and actually work to fulfill their end of the agreement....

I was a full time non sexual live in slave when I was 15. I knew what I wanted. I knew what i was able to do. Sure he was an abusive jerk who really really needs to be killed but Hey. We had that dynamic.

Not everyone at 18 is young stupid and naive, and many realize at a young age they arent "normal" and at the first opportunity go for what they wish.

Personally I really really hate the fact people go well they have to be fake they cant possibly be real slaves yada yada.





AneNoz -> RE: Slave or Mooch? (6/27/2011 1:52:49 AM)

It is in this pool wherein I would seek a slave, for my Beloveds do not work outside of my home. They work for me in the capacity I see fit. They are not sent outside for an employment, nor do they receive payment for the work they do for me. Their efforts are my due as their owner. The financial support of the house is solely my responsibility. To my eye it is an irresponsibility to take on a slave when one is without the financial means to provide for that slave.

Be at peace
Aneka



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