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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 6:54:21 PM   
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Against someone who serves up lies and misinformation, as Alex does? Yes, pahunk, I am prejudiced against those people.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 6:56:48 PM   
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You are prejudiced. 



Actually, I went into Alex Jones site with an open mind. You see I think there is a certain type of conspiracy to keep the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. I also think that the WTO and the IMF were devised to subjugate people. My problem with Alex and friends is that you all lie which negates the real abuses of power taking place.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 6:57:39 PM   
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Not you silly.  Julia.    

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 6:59:01 PM   
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You are prejudiced. 



Actually, I went into Alex Jones site with an open mind. You see I think there is a certain type of conspiracy to keep the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. I also think that the WTO and the IMF were devised to subjugate people. My problem with Alex and friends is that you all lie which negates the real abuses of power taking place.


Point taken.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 7:02:05 PM   
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PA, did you actually read my post? It was at the turn of the page, I think 2 pages ago.

Alex distorts, fabricates and outright lies. He will take a subject and remanufacture the facts until they no longer resemble what once was the truth.

I don't know what his actual factual accuracy is. But the reason it is reasonable to NOT pay attention to his is it is just too time consuming to try and parse out what is true and what isn't.

If someone makes up shit most of the time does it make any sense to listen to him in the off chance that this time he might be right, especially when there are other reliable news sources out there?
He isn't finding new news, PA.
He is finding news that is readily available and then spinning it to fit his agenda.

And then there are well intentioned people who don't bother to separate the facts from the lies and get all caught up in the general BS he spouts on a daily basis.

He especially appeals to people who have issues sorting out reality from conspiracy, and that means, to be blunt, he is preying upon the mentally ill.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 7:15:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Alex distorts, fabricates and outright lies. He will take a subject and remanufacture the facts until they no longer resemble what once was the truth.



The question is did you see my post?

It was in response to Julia but it applies to anyone else as well.

Go ahead!   Put up what ever it is that you think you got to make your case for those claims.

Lets examine them and see if you are right.

NO ONE has put up ANYTHING that remotely resembles what you are claiming.

In fact they put up the opposite and unwittingly validate his claims.

SHOW ME



Oh wait I didnt see this:
quote:

I don't know what his actual factual accuracy is. But the reason it is reasonable to NOT pay attention to his is it is just too time consuming to try and parse out what is true and what isn't.


I should have read to the second paragraph, I thought you were serious LOL






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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 7:22:26 PM   
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No.  But if I have a low sperm count, I do blame them.  In fact- I do blame the government for fluoride which wrecked my thyroid. 

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it is odd you say that. almost my entire life we had a man on our city counsel who fought tooth and nail to keep fluoride out of our city drinking water. people labeled him nut. then two years after the city starts fluoridating our water these studies came out that said the nut was correct the entire time. BTW, he stayed in office until he got cancer, it was the same he passed on that we got the fluoride.


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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 7:30:56 PM   
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^ PA actually has one of the lower rates of fluoridation compared to other states.   The 2 adjacent water companies in my area do not fluoridate.    Something like 50-55% fluoridate in PA.   Where as most the other states are 80% to 100%.

Even the current rate- the fed has recommended to reduce it to 40% of what it was....   but I dont think it goes far enough.    The pharmaceutical companies are planning to push for lithium and stantons to be added to the water.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 7:33:01 PM   
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hey Erie,  you can buy good water at weis- the spigot in front -  bring your own jug it is .35 a gallon.  It is reverse osmosis- has no fluoride-   good water.   I get 12 gallons at a time. 

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 8:19:25 PM   
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http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html


Michael Shermer has a whole book about that kind of thing. Why People Believe Strange Things, or something like that. It is on a bookshelf in another room. As I recall it was pretty good.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 10:50:14 PM   
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anyway I am waiting for that time hack julia?

ya all have fun

u 2 stef


I posted the video...

Stop personally attacking me and calling me names. You have no idea how many are on the tip of my tongue and much more accurate than the name you called me...

I know Alex Jones is your Lord and Savior, but he isn't mine


Firstly if you find calling you julia is offensive then what you prefer to be called?

Secondly I literally never watch alex jones but the little that I have, I did the due diligence and all the AJ drama aside have always found a much greater percentage of truth than bs in his material.

Thirdly if you consider demanding that you prove up your claim as an attack than you may want to find another hobby than posting on forums, because when you come out to a message board and claim some one is bullshit you need to be able to back it up with more than "julia said so".  Oops did I call you a name again?  Sorry....

Now I listened to it and did not hear him say what you claimed, its possible that I have missed it so I nicely asked you to give me the time hack after you tried to insinuate I was trying to side step the matter which I am not.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Now I can listen to it again I only listened to the first few moments however I did hear that part and the point he was trying to get across from what I could tell was something to do with birth control.


He said the government created gay people

You can try to tippy toe around that, it doesn't change it.



give me the time hack



anyway I am waiting for that time hack julia?

ya all have fun

u 2 stef




How many times now and you refuse so I have no choice but to call BULLSHIT on you.

You continue to claim you have "stuff" lots of stuff on the tip of your tongue and you produce none.  If it really was in the video you would have no problem stating the time hack.

Did anyone else find that gay comment she is claiming?

We are not mind readers and if you cant post it, it does not exist.

Oh and btw I went through the whole fucking thread and the only name I called you was julia!

So now you got the time hack, the alleged name calling, and the stuff on thetip of your tongue to prove up. 




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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/23/2011 11:04:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html


Michael Shermer has a whole book about that kind of thing. Why People Believe Strange Things, or something like that. It is on a bookshelf in another room. As I recall it was pretty good.


In fact I can tell you stories about some of the most incredibly ignorant shit masters and phd people believe that is completely incorrect and trust me you will never get the opportunity to prove it to them.

On boards its important to be fully aware of the provacatuers and disinformation propagandists.

They will pull stunts to derail threads like bring in david icke and talk about his lizard theories putting him under the general scope of conspiracy theorists along side to falsely discount and demean someone who is qualified such as richard gage for instance.

Now there is where alex is right on target bullseye when he claims its all about info wars.

watch any prez give a speech its not whats true that counts.

Its what is "perceived" to be tru that counts,  Plays on peoples "presumptions" and/or expectations of truth.  All to often he who tells the exciting "plausible" story wins over he who tells the boring truth.





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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 1:02:47 AM   
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Ok I wasted my time and listened to the whole fucking thing again and he did not say what you claimed.

he said:

quote:

but the reason there is so many gay people now because its a chemical warfare operation, I have the government documents where they are going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people dont have children, I even catch myself drinking out of these estrogen mamacures.


apparently you simply took the title and ran with it.

"
Alex Jones Says Gay People are Created by the Government"

Its nothing new for the guv to criminally trespass by sterilization and chemicals as lsd etc.

his point of course being that the guv is spiking or allowing food to be spiked with chemicals to cause or promote a sexual drive reduction or maybe to the extent of a mild form of chemical castration. 

Your point however is apparently to make him look like a total asshole accuracy of content not withstanding.

I do not see that to be any cwazier than searching for "wmd" ghosts or waiting for "change".
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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 5:42:11 AM   
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Look, lets face reality here people.

After an extensive and somewhat eyeopening series of searches and listening to Alex Jones I have come to the conclusion that he is nothing more than a conspiracy preaching hack who is polluting the airwaves and internet with conspiracy bullshit to inflame people.

And Hunky is his number one disciple on these boards.

I doubt Alex Jones believes half the crap he is going on about and unfortunately Hunk believes every word.

Hell, the search and listening has given me an idea how to get rich, just do the same thing. Hell, I could register at one of the blog sites that pay you to blog and just spout the same nonsense and get a nice income off it.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 6:41:56 AM   
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Thats because some of us here cant deal with truth.   Like building 7 free fall in 6 seconds when no plane ever hit it.  


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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 7:29:18 AM   
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quote:

Firstly if you find calling you julia is offensive then what you prefer to be called?


You called me a hack

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 7:32:13 AM   
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Thats because some of us here cant deal with truth.   Like building 7 free fall in 6 seconds when no plane ever hit it.  


WAKE up-   the days in la la utopia are numbered.




You know the sad thing, it is completely possible there was much weirdness going on with 911.... but there are plenty of other people that have been researching it that do not lie. It would be much wiser to listen to those people instead of a know prevaricator.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 7:38:14 AM   
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Thats because some of us here cant deal with truth.   Like building 7 free fall in 6 seconds when no plane ever hit it.  


WAKE up-   the days in la la utopia are numbered.



There have been many buildings that free fell without a plane having hit them.  And if the buildings when they fell did it other than in a free fall, that is the cause for investigation, because it violates the laws of physics.

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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 7:54:25 AM   
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Hysteria is an American tradition - are you saying he's the only one? A lot of his stuff checks out, and nobody else keeps an eye on the Bilderburgers for example, there's stuff on Prison Planet you'll have a hard time finding mentioned anywhere else. I've been checking it from time to time since way back, you find some fascinating stuff on there.



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RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Lis... - 6/24/2011 8:04:53 AM   
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Hysteria is an American tradition - are you saying he's the only one? A lot of his stuff checks out, and nobody else keeps an eye on the Bilderburgers for example, there's stuff on Prison Planet you'll have a hard time finding mentioned anywhere else. I've been checking it from time to time since way back, you find some fascinating stuff on there.






Cool.   I do not dwell on their vids anymore.  I will pop in to read things.   I dont think they are inaccurate.  He can be alarmist...  but over all-- if you stick to the white papers...  it is pretty straight forward.  

Think tanks and foundations plan our whole future for us- and people need to be controlled- people crave a ruling class.   But society will always needs a whistle blower.

The elite- their religion requires that they TELL US what they plan to do.  If we choose to not hear it- shame on us.  They tell us their plans...

The logical conclusion of a power elite gaining too much power is- a hyper poverty- suffering and death.

Often Alex is months and years ahead of MSM news.   

People want to be spoon fed tho.  They do not want to do critical thinking.

Who are the people that effect society?  Is it the ones who roll over- or the ones who fight the fight?

Rhetorical question.

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