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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:01:26 PM

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Neither is there in the word slut, at least not in the way I apply it to myself. I am a wanton, arguably promiscuous, saucy girl. So the word is applicable in almost every sense. Where we differ is in seeing anything negative about it. I am proud to be a slut. It's healthy and natural, and free.

I don't know if I will always be a slut, but for now, when I'm young and pretty, and have few responsibilities, I am going to keep being a slut. The word isn't an insult to me, its just true.[/color]

if you're promiscuous i won't disagree that you're a slut...i was talking about it describing someone who was monogamous.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:05:01 PM

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Why would you disagree with anyone's sexual choices if they arent in a relationship with you?

Nothing like someone coming onto a BDSM site and proclaiming themselves a fucking prude.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:13:28 PM

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Both.

It wasn't an either or. My post followed the history of the word, which has been used to mean:

1. a dirty, slovenly, or untidy woman
2. idle woman
3. an untidy man
4. a kitchen maid, a drudge
5. woman of loose character, bold hussy
6. a playful use, apparently ok to apply to a UM
7. a euphemism for bitch to describe a female dog

over a history that goes back to the 1400s. The point is, words evolve and their meanings change.

Lets take a much newer word. What springs to mind when you hear the word 'geek'? Depending on your age, it is probably either a computer whiz or that bookwormy guy/ gal in high school with straight As and no dates. It's a word nearly everyone in western countries is familiar with, and the definitions are clear.

That said, the 'real' (original, that is) meaning of the word 'geek', which dates back to 1915-1920, is:

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a carnival performer who performs sensationally morbid or disgusting acts, as biting off the head of a live chicken.

While one can sort of understand the progression, can it really be denied that at some point, the 'geeks' took over a word that was clearly meant to be derogatory and changed it?

Really, on a site where 'submissive' has become a noun, a 'slave' is someone in a consensual relationship, humans are referred to as 'property', and all the other ways we have redefined words (just like people on a bazillion hobby sites, gamer sites, career sites, etc have and continue to do), balking at the concept of the word 'slut' meaning anything other than a woman that will fuck anything with a dick is more than a little silly, IMO.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:16:32 PM

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Really, on a site where 'submissive' has become a noun, a 'slave' is someone in a consensual relationship, humans are referred to as 'property', and all the other ways we have redefined words (just like people on a bazillion hobby sites, gamer sites, career sites, etc have and continue to do), balking at the concept of the word 'slut' meaning anything other than a woman that will fuck anything with a dick is more than a little silly, IMO.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:24:14 PM

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balking at the concept of the word 'slut' meaning anything other than a woman that will fuck anything with a dick is more than a little silly, IMO.

Especially because I won't fuck anything with a dick.

Imperatrixx, you missed my point. I was saying the word has no shock value. Words only have the power that the reader/listener gives them. A word can only shock or insult you if you let it. And we have already seen how the word slut can indeed be applied to a person in a monogamous relationship. The strength and greatness of the English language is that it is versatile, it is adaptable, and it is a "living" language in every sense of the word. You prefer to use the word slut in cases where you are referring to only one of it's many possible meanings, but that doesn't negate the other possible meanings.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:40:34 PM

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Especially because I won't fuck anything with a dick.

That thought did occur to me as I was typing that sentence, actually.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:47:36 PM

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So apparently there is no word for a guy who's sexually promiscuous, so that would make it alright, or should we call those guys studs?

That's exactly what they're called. Jim Jeffries said it best when he said:

"It's easy to be a slut. It's *hard* to be a stud. To be a stud, a guy has to be witty, charming, well-dressed, have nice shoes and a fake job. To be a slut, a woman just has to be "there."

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:48:36 PM

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Which is why the term came to be about women. Men hate it when we best them at anything.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/6/2011 11:51:56 PM

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It's *hard* to be a stud.

Just.... LOL!

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 12:10:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Why would you disagree with anyone's sexual choices if they arent in a relationship with you?

It's a purely academic exercise. Same as I can look at a girl and decide if she's pretty or ugly regardless of whether I want to hit on her. I don't really give a fuck, and it doesn't affect me, but I still have my opinions.

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Nothing like someone coming onto a BDSM site and proclaiming themselves a fucking prude.

You know, I always wondered where the stereotype that all kinky girls must be super easy in bed came from. Apparently it comes from within.

Last I checked, BDSM stood for bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism. There is absolutely fucking nothing in that acronym, or even in the entire concept of BDSM, that implies promiscuity or sleeping around.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 12:15:35 AM

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Try the discipline part. Most people who are owned are obedient to those who own them. If my man wants me to be a slut, then THAT is what I am.

Get your head out of your ass.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 12:25:23 AM

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Try the discipline part. Most people who are owned are obedient to those who own them. If my man wants me to be a slut, then THAT is what I am.

Get your head out of your ass.

an individual being ordered to have casual sex is different than saying that casual sex is an inherent part of bdsm.

if your man wanted you to eat dog food, i'm sure you'd obey. and guess what, i'd think that was completely gross. is being ordered to have sex any different that it's in some protected class where nobody can think anything negative about it? imo if you're not mature enough to accept that not everyone will approve of your sexual choices you're not mature enough to be making sexual choices period.

get your head out of your ass lol.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 12:41:05 AM

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Who made you Judge and Jury of what is acceptable within the lifestyle and what is not? judgmental as hell, arent ya.

Got news for ya, if the man tells me im a slut, then his definition is the only one that counts, no matter what your dictionary says.

And, frankly, I would MUCH rather be a slut than to be a prude.

Actually, I have admitted much earlier that I am a slut. Full and proud. Call me one and I would blow you a kiss with a big smile. Im not confined by your puritanical views. Which is what it means when the goreans say a woman is more free within a collar. We dont have to give a flying fig what you think.

Its so great to be me.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 12:49:00 AM

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for someone who wonders why one would disagree with the sexual choices of someone they're not in a relationship with, you sure use the word prude a lot.

anyway though I'm glad you're happy being a slut. being personally fulfilled is important. you shouldn't really give a fuck if people look down on sluts, if it makes you happy, your own opinion of yourself is really the most important one.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 1:02:34 AM

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Prude

For the American football cornerback, see Ronnie Prude.
A prude (Old French prude) is a person who is described as being overly concerned with decorum or propriety. They may be perceived as being uncomfortable with sexuality, nudity, alcohol, drug use or mischief.

The name is generally considered to mean excessive modesty, and hence unflattering, and is often used as an insult. A person who is considered a prude may have reservations about nudity, participating in romantic or sexual activity, drinking alcohol or consuming other drugs, or participating in mischief.

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/Prude?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=Prude&sa=Search#922

Since you are so into definitions and word meanings, prude fits you on this topic.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 1:13:58 AM

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meh, a slut saying i'm a prude is like a midget saying i'm tall. it's one of those things that's relative. i'm sure a conservative christian pastor would consider me immoral for having sex outside of marriage. and i'm sure there are girls who go out every weekend looking for a new dick to suck would consider you a prude for having reservations about doing that ;)

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 3:05:33 AM

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I hate the word with a passion - but it is useful as a filter....

I see "slut" in a sub's profile (or esp screen name), I've read enough and head for the 'X' in the top right corner.

Focus.

It serves as a filter for me as well. I see "slut" in a sub's screen name, I head for the button "Read Full Profile" (though admittedly, I click on "View All Photos" first).

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 3:07:10 AM

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goodness . . .!!

Now, there's no need for that kind of language, Lilly.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 3:24:59 AM

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That's why my gay friends are dykes, lezbos, fags, homos, and so on. We're not changing the meaning of the word, just stripping it of its power to hurt.

I'm an oversexed, perverted, promiscuous, poly, homo, baby dyke, blue jean femme, gold star lezbo slut, strumpet, harlot and whore. And proud of it!

Every one of those terms can be used on me in an attempt to insult me, but by accepting that they are essentially correct, in at least one of their definitions, and adopting them myself, they no longer have any power over me, they are merely descriptive words. Words I find it quite satisfying to be defined by.

Ms HeatherMcLeather hit the nail on the proverbial head, so to speak. Using the word slut as a term of endearment strips it of it's power to be hurtful and derogatory. It really is all about the double standard between males and females. Males are *allowed* to love sex, females who love sex are still considered *sluts.*

These days, it's cool to be a slut, and if you don't proclaim yourself as such, you are a prude. There doesn't appear to be a great deal of middle ground, but then I would be the first to admit I am not an expert on the younger generation.

Hopefully we can get to the place where it's acceptable for females to be saucy in their actions and admit to loving sex w/o the added connotation that they must then be promiscuous.

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RE: Meaning of the word "slut" - 7/7/2011 3:33:23 AM

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I'm as down-to-earth and laid-back as anyone can be but that word totally lacks class and style and when I see it posted publically in a profile, I can't help but relate that person as equally lacking class and style. Some things really are best left in private, IMO.
in other words you're not as fucking down-to-earth and laid-back as anyone. you're hung up on a word that you have decided is an arbiter of class and style.

it is a badge of honour, when you, or me, anybody else calls me a slut, it is just an acknowledgment that i have decided that i am as free with my carnal nature as any fucking man is. why the fuck shouldn't i be proud of it? guys are. they boast about their conquests, why the fuck shouldn't we?

what's the big deal about fucking anyway? it's just another bodily function like breathing, eating, and shitting. it doesn't matter how many people i eat with, so why does it matter how many people i fuck with? saying any woman is somehow lesser because of the number of fuck buddies she chooses to have is like saying that because you go to public washrooms and stand at a line of urinals and piss with other men, that makes you crass, filthy, unclean, and of low morals.

see how fucking illogical your position is? its just a word, it only has the power you give it.

Not "any man" and not this guy. The "why shouldn't I when everyone else does" argument is A), a lie, and B), a feeble excuse for not taking responsibility for your own actions.

Otherwise, I think this entire post is a superb alround definition of "slut". Utterly tacky and feral - and completely devoid of style, class, grace and good taste. No wonder I don't relate to the word - or you!

You and your bullshit generalisations run along now and find someone else to project your considerable issues at. *wink*

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