PeonForHer
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'Sanctioned by whom?' is the question under discussion. The State, God? I wonder what Jesus thought of the killings carried out by the Roman state?
Yanno, talking to you is like trying to pick up snot. First you play the Bible card...
Yet, where it says in the Bible - in the Ten Commandments, no less - "Thou shalt not kill" . . . that's not at all clear. Oh no. Mightily ambiguous, that is. What God probably meant there was was 'Thou shalt not eat krill, like whales', or some such.
When I point out that most translations render the word as "murder," then you say the question is "sanctioned by whom?"
In the context of a Biblical commandment??? Gee, can I think about that one for a bit?
K.
Look, Kirata, I always try not to find you and your attitude on most things deliberately evasive and contemptuous of me and others, but every time I do, you kick back and show what you are. You've got out of the habit of inviting everyone to believe that you're cheerfully on top of everything by finishing every post with a " " - and I'm glad of that, at least, because I always can see suppressed fury when it's there. And it so often *is* there, when you post.
And I know when it's being projected onto me, as well. I didn't "play the Bible card", I brought up points about the Bible. Granted, I can get angry about that issue for many reasons, partly because people routinely trash what's timelessly good about it. The fact of the Commandment not to kill is one good thing. The fact that Jesus had some sense of social understanding (versus an understanding of just individual ethics) is another; the fact that he taught by example is perhaps the most important of all.
When I've asked you questions, I've meant them as questions. Questions. You never, ever go all the way to answer them, though. Why? I can't help thinking because again, you project your own make-up on me and think, "Ah! I see his trap, the crafty bastard!"
So, I asked you, earlier:
"I still haven't quite pinned down the point at which you think a good an honourable place like the USA 'executes' people for their 'crimes', whereas a very nasty place like Nazi Germany 'murdered' people for things, like being Jewish, which weren't true crimes at all... "
And your answer was:
"Well I wish you luck on that one then."
Great. A key point for me, as a political scientist, brushed aside by you, as so often. Not up for discussion. Just as when I do ask a question on something on which I'm no expert - say, the Bible - again: not up for discussion.
OK. What about this: you and I evidently rub each other up the wrong way too much. Why don't we just stop talking to each other? I mean, I think we can both agree it doesn't get either of us anywhere, right?
< Message edited by PeonForHer -- 7/22/2011 11:56:41 AM >
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