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DomKen -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 5:39:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Leave it to leftists to despise democratic processes Maybe you missed it but we don't live in a democracy but a republic. We choose people to make decisions. We do not put everything to a diect vote of the people. California has proven why this is a very bad idea.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 5:59:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Leave it to leftists to despise democratic processes Maybe you missed it but we don't live in a democracy but a republic. We choose people to make decisions. We do not put everything to a diect vote of the people. California has proven why this is a very bad idea. Maybe you missed it but another name for our form of government is representative democracy.

slvemike4u -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 6:20:25 PM)
Well let's put aside the semantics for a moment and reexamine sanity's original ridiculous statement....ie: leftists despise the democratic processes. I for one would like to see some proof backing up that silly statement.....seems to me that "leftists" have used those same processes pretty well over the last 50 years or so....seems we have enacted scads of legislation ...yanno the very stuff that drives partisan right wing hacks like sanity up a wall. Take it from this leftist sanity....we love the processes,we use them well and will continue to do so in blocking your favored right wing agendas

tweakabelle -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 6:40:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Well let's put aside the semantics for a moment and reexamine sanity's original ridiculous statement....ie: leftists despise the democratic processes. I for one would like to see some proof backing up that silly statement.....seems to me that "leftists" have used those same processes pretty well over the last 50 years or so....seems we have enacted scads of legislation ...yanno the very stuff that drives partisan right wing hacks like sanity up a wall. Take it from this leftist sanity....we love the processes,we use them well and will continue to do so in blocking your favored right wing agendas It might be an idea to check out what Sanity means by "leftists" first: Sanity: "If youve got a link from MSNBC or The New York Times or CNN or CBS. Or any other far left* media outlet* " This seems to suggest that Sanity regards any one who's views are more to the left than his is a 'leftist'. That would add up to something in excess of 99% of the world's population. So either Sanity is correct or >99% of humans despise democracy ....... go figure!

Lucylastic -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 6:43:58 PM)
far left embodies anyone left of him or anyone who pisses him off far left isnt actually a place, its a cult ..... a huge commune type hippy bohemian place the whole world except him and the teaparty live in.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 6:48:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Well let's put aside the semantics for a moment and reexamine sanity's original ridiculous statement....ie: leftists despise the democratic processes. I for one would like to see some proof backing up that silly statement.....seems to me that "leftists" have used those same processes pretty well over the last 50 years or so....seems we have enacted scads of legislation ...yanno the very stuff that drives partisan right wing hacks like sanity up a wall. Take it from this leftist sanity....we love the processes,we use them well and will continue to do so in blocking your favored right wing agendas It might be an idea to check out what Sanity means by "leftists" first: Sanity: "If youve got a link from MSNBC or The New York Times or CNN or CBS. Or any other far left* media outlet* " This seems to suggest that Sanity regards any one who's views are more to the left than his is a 'leftist'. That would add up to something in excess of 99% of the world's population. So either Sanity is correct or >99% of humans despise democracy ....... go figure! No, it would suggest that you are either not viewing left vs right in US terms, but Euro terms, or that you dont undertand where in the political spectrum those outlets lie.

slvemike4u -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 7:08:21 PM)
Bullshit....in sanitys world "leftists" equates to anyone with a beating fucking heart.

Lucylastic -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 7:12:28 PM)
maybe not exactly correct there mike, but closer than wilburs by a miles, LMFAO i got peach juice all over my monitor now. The guy doesnt know the difference between liberal and marxist, HIS idea of hard left has nothing to do with reality

slvemike4u -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 7:18:43 PM)
Lucy,none of his ideas have anything...anything at all to do with reality. Sorry about the peach juice.....lol.

Owner59 -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 7:19:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Well let's put aside the semantics for a moment and reexamine sanity's original ridiculous statement....ie: leftists despise the democratic processes. I for one would like to see some proof backing up that silly statement.....seems to me that "leftists" have used those same processes pretty well over the last 50 years or so....seems we have enacted scads of legislation ...yanno the very stuff that drives partisan right wing hacks like sanity up a wall. Take it from this leftist sanity....we love the processes,we use them well and will continue to do so in blocking your favored right wing agendas Jesus,no one has shown more contempt for democracy than today`s neo-cons.Just look at all of the grand oil party`s efforts and election fraud and voter suppression. Or more contempt for the Constitution and the wall of separation. Whether this is right or wrong doesn`t interest rich and his ilk. It`s whether their own political party is advantaged or not. If advantaged? .....It`s all American.... If they`re disadvantaged? ....lol....It`s evil fear-mongering and scare tactics.<victim/bo-hoo/cry-baby-act> That`s exactly how the neo-cons will line up,"consistently".

TheHeretic -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 9:43:20 PM)
So now it's official, without going to a partisan source, that this effort to suppress free political expression, and direct participation by the citizery is in fact being sponsored by a union group. http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2011/08/californians-against-identity-theft-campaign-committee.html quote: A labor-backed group running controversial radio ads urging voters not to sign initiative petitions has formally filed as a campaign committee. Kinda makes you wonder what petition(s) might be circulating that has them so scared. The major news outlets are picking this up. With a bit of luck, this bit of free speech used badly, will soon be dealt with, by more free speech. Gotta love it, even when you don't like it sometimes.

Owner59 -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/3/2011 10:30:31 PM)
K.....evil fearmongering it is.....

Sanity -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 6:53:22 AM)
No, its just addressing facts These media organizations push a far left agenda Far left as defined by American politics Zero was complaining about an accurate report from a website that openly admits to its bias Yet many organizations are heavily biased, especially those named Though I use them myself on occasion, if the article is factual In other words, a source is a source is a source Dry your eyes, and welcome to Reality 101 quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It might be an idea to check out what Sanity means by "leftists" first: Sanity: "If youve got a link from MSNBC or The New York Times or CNN or CBS. Or any other far left* media outlet* " This seems to suggest that Sanity regards any one who's views are more to the left than his is a 'leftist'. That would add up to something in excess of 99% of the world's population. So either Sanity is correct or >99% of humans despise democracy ....... go figure!

Sanity -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 6:56:49 AM)
Circulating a petition is a democratic process quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Leave it to leftists to despise democratic processes Maybe you missed it but we don't live in a democracy but a republic. We choose people to make decisions. We do not put everything to a diect vote of the people. California has proven why this is a very bad idea.

xssve -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 7:28:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Well let's put aside the semantics for a moment and reexamine sanity's original ridiculous statement....ie: leftists despise the democratic processes. I for one would like to see some proof backing up that silly statement.....seems to me that "leftists" have used those same processes pretty well over the last 50 years or so....seems we have enacted scads of legislation ...yanno the very stuff that drives partisan right wing hacks like sanity up a wall. Take it from this leftist sanity....we love the processes,we use them well and will continue to do so in blocking your favored right wing agendas He means that anybody that disagrees with him shouldn't be allowed to vote, 'cause they're anti-democratic.

Sanity -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 7:36:35 AM)
So many leftists live in a world of make believe Seems to be a common trait quote: ORIGINAL: xssve He means that anybody that disagrees with him shouldn't be allowed to vote, 'cause they're anti-democratic.

Lucylastic -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 7:42:18 AM)
far left embodies anyone left of him or anyone who pisses him off far left isnt actually a place, its a cult ..... a huge commune type hippy bohemian place the whole world except him and the teaparty live in. The guy doesnt know the difference between liberal and marxist, HIS idea of hard left has nothing to do with reality

Moonhead -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 7:46:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Leave it to leftists to despise democratic processes Maybe you missed it but we don't live in a democracy but a republic. We choose people to make decisions. We do not put everything to a diect vote of the people. California has proven why this is a very bad idea. Maybe you missed it but another name for our form of government is representative democracy. Actually, no: that's the system we have (like a Republic, but with a monarch). If you live in a representative democracy, then you uppity colonials owe us quite a bit of tea tax...

Lucylastic -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 7:48:36 AM)
yeah its what 540 billion now isnt it?

Sanity -> RE: Fearmongering and political petitions (8/4/2011 8:04:58 AM)
So many leftists live in a world of make believe Seems to be a common trait quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic far left embodies anyone left of him or anyone who pisses him off far left isnt actually a place, its a cult ..... a huge commune type hippy bohemian place the whole world except him and the teaparty live in. The guy doesnt know the difference between liberal and marxist, HIS idea of hard left has nothing to do with reality

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