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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/11/2011 7:18:44 AM   
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If cheating on their spouse will get one fired, there wouldn't be many judges left in my county, and not that many lawyers either. Just to clarify, I am responding to a comment by Lafayettelady, but my IPad makes it very hard to use quotes.


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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/11/2011 8:00:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

If you are having a job that involves moral conduct or is in the public eye, you don't plaster your face on a kink website, simple as that.

How do you think they found out about him? My guess is that a student or a member of staff who was pissed off and stumbled across his profile and tipped the media off, something that could have easily been avoided by not flashing their faces around. Look, in most countries in Europe prostitution is legal, though I doubt a politician would be stupid enough to pose for pictures with a lady who charges for time, same goes for a bank manager. Does everybody think that those guys are familiar with those services and have used them? Of course, but there is a difference between that and flying it in the face of the public...

Yea, after all...we all know all kinksters are all immoral. What is worse cybersluts...a 'family's value' married, congressman flying to Argentina to see his mistress or this ? Now you get the idea of the outlandish hypocrisy and shameful voyeurism in our ignorant, perverted society.


Oh wow, who would have thought... Politicians cheat...

Look, if I would plaster my face without a mask here, I would run the chance that somebody I work with or will work with in the future, might have worked with in the past, will see it. It could cause trouble at work, trouble I can avoid quite easily.

I didn't make the rules of society, but I don't expect that I can change it, I also think there is nothing to be won by risking my job. As an adult we make our own choices, I don't feel the need to advertise my sexuality.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/12/2011 12:05:24 AM   
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Can't quote on my phone either. While it is certainly stretching it to say all judges and lawyers cheat, it doesn't negate the fact that they *can* be fired or sanctioned for conduct unbecoming.

A judge in Florida Was caught not only viewing porn at his workplace, he was on the bench doing it while cases were being presented! He wasn't fired and niether has the chancellor. Both, however, suffered humiliation for their acts.

Many of the photos on this site are pornographic. Employers often frown on people using company computers for non work related web searching and email. Why should anyone feel they have a right to look at porn on company time? If they found nude photos of him and his girlfriend on his work computer, it would have looked as bad.

For those of you saying the computer was in his home, there is a good chance his home and home computer were *perks* that came with the job, so while he may not be limited in his use of those things, the school, as his employer could have some say over any activities he engaged in that they feel would lessen the school's reputation.

Y'all can disagree all you want, but sex doesn't belong in the workplace.uter, it would have looked as bad.

For those of you saying the computer was in his home, there is a good chance his home and home computer were *perks* that came with the job, so while he may not be limited in his use of those things, the school, as his employer could have some say over any activities he engaged in that they feel would lessen the school's reputation.

Y'all can disagree all you want, but sex doesn't belong in the workplace.




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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/12/2011 2:55:13 AM   
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Many of the photos on this site are pornographic. Employers often frown on people using company computers for non work related web searching and email. Why should anyone feel they have a right to look at porn on company time? If they found nude photos of him and his girlfriend on his work computer, it would have looked as bad.

For those of you saying the computer was in his home, there is a good chance his home and home computer were *perks* that came with the job, so while he may not be limited in his use of those things, the school, as his employer could have some say over any activities he engaged in that they feel would lessen the school's reputation.

Y'all can disagree all you want, but sex doesn't belong in the workplace.uter, it would have looked as bad.

Okies, you have way assumed- now I'll make some assumptions in the other direction.
I didn't see any mention of school computers or pic files on work computers. What I did see is that computers etc were seized from the office.

I have to wonder if, like many of us, this man brought his personal laptop or netbook (that he paid for) to work with him to hit the net at lunchtime or when he was on break while working late. If so, then it was probably seized simply because it was in the office when the search warrant was executed.

That said, the warrant executed by ICE had to do with illegal immigration, and I would really like to know just how in the hell that has anything to do with the fact that this guy is kinky. It seems to me that the information was leaked to TSG by a gov't agency, and for no other reason than to ruin the man.


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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/12/2011 4:43:15 AM   
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Could it not be that he was caught up in an investigation and word got around and somebody who previously came across his profile and picture and had a grudge (you don't become Chancellor of a university without pissing a few people off and academics aren't much nicer than other people - in his job he also might have made a few enemies just doing his job) and they used the chance - kind of "kick him while he's down" thing.

Needless to say that I think his kink has nothing to do with how he does his job, as long as he doesn't approach people he works with in an inappropriate way, but I do think the scandal could have been avoided if he would not have shown his face.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/12/2011 4:56:57 AM   
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I don't have a problem with his lifestyle obviously but if you're a chancellor of a school, don't post your face photos all over your CM profile. Imo, that's just simply not very bright unless you really don't care what will happen to your life if a student comes across it or a parent or anyone else for that matter as he's now seeing.

Wanna post your photo? Go for it but then don't be surprised or shocked when it's all over the news eventually.




That's the problem, photos are demanded.

I don't post mine for similar reasons but if you look at the red profiles a large percentage state that they will not respond without a photo.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/12/2011 5:06:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Can't quote on my phone either. While it is certainly stretching it to say all judges and lawyers cheat, it doesn't negate the fact that they *can* be fired or sanctioned for conduct unbecoming.

A judge in Florida Was caught not only viewing porn at his workplace, he was on the bench doing it while cases were being presented! He wasn't fired and niether has the chancellor. Both, however, suffered humiliation for their acts.

Many of the photos on this site are pornographic. Employers often frown on people using company computers for non work related web searching and email. Why should anyone feel they have a right to look at porn on company time? If they found nude photos of him and his girlfriend on his work computer, it would have looked as bad.

For those of you saying the computer was in his home, there is a good chance his home and home computer were *perks* that came with the job, so while he may not be limited in his use of those things, the school, as his employer could have some say over any activities he engaged in that they feel would lessen the school's reputation.

Y'all can disagree all you want, but sex doesn't belong in the workplace.uter, it would have looked as bad.

For those of you saying the computer was in his home, there is a good chance his home and home computer were *perks* that came with the job, so while he may not be limited in his use of those things, the school, as his employer could have some say over any activities he engaged in that they feel would lessen the school's reputation.

Y'all can disagree all you want, but sex doesn't belong in the workplace.



Speaking of a stretch, your assumption that his home computer was paid for by his employer goes beyond a stretch.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/12/2011 5:14:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I don't have a problem with his lifestyle obviously but if you're a chancellor of a school, don't post your face photos all over your CM profile. Imo, that's just simply not very bright unless you really don't care what will happen to your life if a student comes across it or a parent or anyone else for that matter as he's now seeing.

Wanna post your photo? Go for it but then don't be surprised or shocked when it's all over the news eventually.




That's the problem, photos are demanded.

I don't post mine for similar reasons but if you look at the red profiles a large percentage state that they will not respond without a photo.


Sure, but you can wear a mask, have your face in the shadow, distort it a bit, all that, and send a normal face picture in a PM. You can also put a picture up you took of something and that you feel expresses you somewhat and state that you will send one after you feel comfortable. Why do you think I got a picture with a mask up?

Because somebody won't respond without a picture doesn't mean you have to post it, if on another site somebody says you have to post your bank statements, would you do it?

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/13/2011 10:32:33 PM   
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I didn't assume, I said it was possible. There is a big difference there.

It is commonplace at large universities that the upper management (dean, chancellor) are provided housing as part of their contract, often even furnished.

To be clear, suggesting something is possible is a far cry from making the assumption it is happening.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/13/2011 10:37:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

Many of the photos on this site are pornographic. Employers often frown on people using company computers for non work related web searching and email. Why should anyone feel they have a right to look at porn on company time? If they found nude photos of him and his girlfriend on his work computer, it would have looked as bad.

For those of you saying the computer was in his home, there is a good chance his home and home computer were *perks* that came with the job, so while he may not be limited in his use of those things, the school, as his employer could have some say over any activities he engaged in that they feel would lessen the school's reputation.

Y'all can disagree all you want, but sex doesn't belong in the workplace.uter, it would have looked as bad.



Okies, you have way assumed- now I'll make some assumptions in the other direction.
I didn't see any mention of school computers or pic files on work computers. What I did see is that computers etc were seized from the office.

I have to wonder if, like many of us, this man brought his personal laptop or netbook (that he paid for) to work with him to hit the net at lunchtime or when he was on break while working late. If so, then it was probably seized simply because it was in the office when the search warrant was executed.

That said, the warrant executed by ICE had to do with illegal immigration, and I would really like to know just how in the hell that has anything to do with the fact that this guy is kinky. It seems to me that the information was leaked to TSG by a gov't agency, and for no other reason than to ruin the man.



As LC stated, if it were his personal computer, it was seized as part of the whole raid. Another thing I didn't see was anything stating that Immigration actually released the information. Again, I agree with LC that he likely pissed someone off and they happened to find the information on his computer and leaked it to the SmokingGun.

No matter how it happened, the guy doesn't have a leg to stand on for libel, since he did do it. The university has not asked for his resignation, but he will probably turn one in. In my opinion, I don't care if he was just looking at "ordinary porn" and had tons of it on a work computer, it doesn't belong there.

For me, it has nothing to do with him and his girlfriend's desire to have a poly D/s relationship, but where he was conducting his search that is the problem.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/14/2011 12:25:30 AM   
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ZERO COMMON SENSE.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/14/2011 12:41:33 PM   
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As LC stated, if it were his personal computer, it was seized as part of the whole raid. Another thing I didn't see was anything stating that Immigration actually released the information. Again, I agree with LC that he likely pissed someone off and they happened to find the information on his computer and leaked it to the SmokingGun.

No matter how it happened, the guy doesn't have a leg to stand on for libel, since he did do it. The university has not asked for his resignation, but he will probably turn one in. In my opinion, I don't care if he was just looking at "ordinary porn" and had tons of it on a work computer, it doesn't belong there.

For me, it has nothing to do with him and his girlfriend's desire to have a poly D/s relationship, but where he was conducting his search that is the problem.


Not what I meant, sorry to be unclear about that, I thought that they found the ad on CM and leaked it to SmokingGun when he was already under fire due to the investigation, might not even be the people who conducted the investigation. He might not have looked at it during work hours, it was just stupid to have a picture of his full face up, from a certain point in your career on you will have made enemies, even if you played by the rules and did everything by the book, you might have been better than somebody else, you might not have bent the rules for somebody who thought they deserve to have the rules bent, you got promoted and somebody else wanted the job... He's in a public position and people will go a long way to exploit it - look at Max Mosley...

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/15/2011 8:07:52 PM   
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I wish more people would be willing to take the stand that their sex lives are nobody's business but their own, as long as what they do is legal and consensual. That, over time, would cause society to be more sex friendly.
Like that Congressman wiener guy. Who HASN'T sent or received pictures of somebody's dick? It happens all the time. Yet, he acted as if it was the most shameful thing on earth, and ended up having to resign. He might still be a congressman if he had just said, yep that's my dick, what's it to ya? Instead, he came across as a pathetic, lying wimp.


Exactly and being that the Chancellor was so fucking stupid to post his sex life on the internet he could have avoided all of this.

He deserves exactly what he gets, every fucking bit of it for being so fucking stupid.




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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/16/2011 3:44:23 PM   
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/college-chancellors-sex-den-124578

Glad to see the people who commented were generally supportive of a person's right to privacy in their own bedroom.

(Yes, someone in his position should have been more discreet.)

Nice dungeon!!!






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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/17/2011 6:18:46 AM   
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I wasn't very clear either, LC. I meant someone in the IT department at the university was checking what he was doing and found it, not that someone physically went on his computer.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/17/2011 6:23:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/college-chancellors-sex-den-124578

Glad to see the people who commented were generally supportive of a person's right to privacy in their own bedroom.

(Yes, someone in his position should have been more discreet.)



I fully support a person's right to privacy in their own bedroom. But that's why it is called "private." If you put it on the net, you are letting everyone know your business. If a person is in a position (pardon the pun) not to care who knows and wants to be totally "out," it's all good. However, if a person has a reason to be discrete, then some common sense should apply. Since the chancellor is completely lacking in common sense, the position that he does hold is kind of scary.

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/18/2011 3:32:17 PM   
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This cat needs to be fired because he failed the IQ test.
That simple.


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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/19/2011 8:13:46 PM   
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A high percentage of women want pictures and almost all men want pictures.  It's also not possible for me to post them for similar reasons, mainly don't post anything on the internet you don't want your mother or a judge to see later.  I don't think posting pictures of flowers, a sunset etc. qualifies as showing what you are like, its a waste of time.

BTW I have been wondering if that Sydney University thing is some kind of practical joke that someone is laughing about starting now. 

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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/20/2011 5:15:26 PM   
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If he did anything illegal
he did. pretty much everything we do is actually illegal, especially in the fucking states. a fucking blow job is illegal in some states for fuck's sake.


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RE: College Chancellor -Sex Dungeon - 8/20/2011 5:23:18 PM   
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That said, the warrant executed by ICE had to do with illegal immigration, and I would really like to know just how in the hell that has anything to do with the fact that this guy is kinky. It seems to me that the information was leaked to TSG by a gov't agency, and for no other reason than to ruin the man.
you nailed it. they didn't find what they were looking for and so smeared him is how i read it. that doesn't alter the fact that he was pretty fucking dumb though. you can't be smeared if you don't give them the shit to smear with, now can you?

there's no evidence on my computers that i have a fucking thing to do with this site, so its his fault it was found, their fault it was made public.


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