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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/8/2011 9:55:08 PM   
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In my opinion, even a guard dog will need a leader of the pack- without a strong leader, the dog is lost.




No, without a human pack leader the strongest (in some cases not the strongest but the most dominant) dog in the pack will assume the role of pack leader as a protection because for them somebody has to lead and even a weak leader is better than none, that's why so many people have problems with training their dogs, they are not pack leaders and don't know how to be, think about it this way, if your dog does what he or she wants at home, why on earth would the dog listen outside? First rule of training a dog is to instill commands in surroundings the dog is familiar with, then slowly expand. If your dog doesn't come to you in the house if called, fat chance that the dog will come back in the park when you let it off the lead...

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 7:27:16 AM   
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No, without a human pack leader the strongest (in some cases not the strongest but the most dominant) dog in the pack will assume the role of pack leader as a protection because for them somebody has to lead and even a weak leader is better than none, that's why so many people have problems with training their dogs, they are not pack leaders and don't know how to be, think about it this way, if your dog does what he or she wants at home, why on earth would the dog listen outside? First rule of training a dog is to instill commands in surroundings the dog is familiar with, then slowly expand. If your dog doesn't come to you in the house if called, fat chance that the dog will come back in the park when you let it off the lead...



LadyConstanze,

Exactly my point, if we bring this analogy to Dominant/submissive relationship, leadership should at the hands of the dominant one, otherwise, the weak (the submissive in this case) has to do it. Something I do not want to do in a relationship=- outside world is another story. I will lead and I am a strong one

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 8:38:50 AM   
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We are not actually dogs, you know.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 8:48:16 AM   
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We are not actually dogs, you know.




LOL true :)

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 9:13:30 AM   
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We are not actually dogs, you know.


I am.


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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 9:35:40 AM   
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We are not actually dogs, you know.


I am.



I better stop calling you bitch, you seem to have a bit of race confusion going on, is it my fault?

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:24:05 AM   
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quote:

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We are not actually dogs, you know.


I am.



Nah. Your breath is too fragrant.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:26:25 AM   
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Peon,

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VaguelyCurious:
We are not actually dogs, you know.

PeonForHer:
I am.


*throws the puppy some puppy treats*

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:27:46 AM   
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VC,

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VaguelyCurious to PeonForHer:
Nah.  Your breath is too fragrant.


So you regularly kiss dogs then? :-)

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:30:26 AM   
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Duuuuude. You don't have to kiss a dog to know what its breath smells like!

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:33:50 AM   
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Lady Angelika,

As with all your writing, I find the OP extremely clear and it generated a worthwhile discussion.  Part of me wants to join this discussion, but another, wiser part of me realizes I'd sound like a jaded, elitist prick if I did.  Thus, I shall remain under a self imposed gag order.

E.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:37:03 AM   
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VC,

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Duuuuude.  You don't have to kiss a dog to know what its breath smells like!


I see.  A carefully crafted evasion to my question.  *laughs!*  I kiss dogs to, ya know.  Well, not on the lips, anyway.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 11:53:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

We are not actually dogs, you know.


I am.



Nah. Your breath is too fragrant.


Doesn't count, girl dog has a thing for peppermints (any mint really, even Fishermen's Friend) and i encourage her after dinner mint as she eats a lot of fish, now the boy doesn't like mints, so I get the doggie toothbrush out, to get to his molars my hand usually disappears in his snout but he seems to think it's a game because he sees the doggie toothbrush, sits back and opens wide...

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 12:10:38 PM   
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Nah. Your breath is too fragrant.


Depends on what I've just been licking. Probably best to avoid kissing me after I've been running around in the park.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 12:14:17 PM   
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Lady Angelika,

As with all your writing, I find the OP extremely clear and it generated a worthwhile discussion.  Part of me wants to join this discussion, but another, wiser part of me realizes I'd sound like a jaded, elitist prick if I did.  Thus, I shall remain under a self imposed gag order.

E.



Eh? You've *never* sounded like a 'jaded, elitist prick' before!



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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 12:55:45 PM   
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You are so full of humour, Darling!

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 1:22:27 PM   
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People often tell me I'm full of it, Lady Hib. *Proud glow*.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 2:17:38 PM   
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Methinks this is the type of `disconnect`, or `not rising to the challenge` the OP is speaking about is about as clear as day! Saying you are or will do something, but following your own agenda when it suits you best, is not part of the Domme-sub dynamic. So for instance, when a sub says he will call you one night, but doesnt, and proceeds to then screen your calls in the next following days... Yeah, huge disconnect there. I am not sure if there is a way to bridge that kind of gap, but if there is, Id love to hear it.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 3:19:46 PM   
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Me, too, GloriousMorning! Even better when they play the sneaky games!

Elsewhere it's been said that a relationship is founded on the same underpinnings, kink or otherwise. I firmly agree.

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RE: How wide is the disconnect? - 8/9/2011 3:59:11 PM   
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