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prostitution/integrity poll


prostitute = no integrity
  14% (13)
no corelation
  85% (76)


Total Votes : 89
(last vote on : 10/8/2012 7:45:41 PM)
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Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/18/2011 8:05:54 PM)

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I like My pie ala mode. Can you do that?

Fix your own. While you're in the kitchen.... Try that shit with someone else. [;)]



Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/18/2011 8:08:05 PM)

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Better check your resources.

You're not following my meaning but I'm too tired to go into another all-niter.

My resources are my own eyes with what I meant and they are pretty solid.



LadyPact -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/18/2011 8:09:47 PM)

Oh, bullshit.  You brag about your dessert making abilities constantly. 

Hey, I've got some elk in the freezer.  [8D]



Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/18/2011 8:11:32 PM)

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Oh, bullshit. You brag about your dessert making abilities constantly.

Bullshit yourself if you wanna..I aint running to the kitchen for you and you can't make me. [:D]



LadyPact -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/18/2011 8:16:33 PM)

I don't have to make you, ya twit.  You'll do it for fun, just like I will.

Just imagine the fun we'll have telling people that we sat at the same table?



AneNoz -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/18/2011 10:48:49 PM)

To those who would impune the integrity of one who is or was a prostitute for this alone, I must object. It is no more so than to say the same of seamstresses. As well I refute the contention that there is a question of poor self esteem in the choice of prostitution as a life.

Prostitution has been the way of life of the women of my family for millenia, it is a thing of honour to serve My Goddess thus. It is not the prostitute that is to blame for the misery of the existence, it is with the society that would destroy her where lies the sin and the blame.

That this question can be asked and that 7 among you have asnwered in the afirmative angers and saddens me both. This is not a good thing.

Be at peace
Aneka



ChatteParfaitt -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 5:06:28 AM)

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Is it a healthy ego that allows one to get into the art of hooking? To preserve it, you had to have it to begin with, right?


I think how healthy a hooker's ego is would be directly determined by her reasons for choosing that "career" path, and where on the class ladder she happens to spend most of her time.

I would say as a general rule, a street hooker with a pimp and a call girl who works for a high class service have little in common ego wise. This is b/c most street hookers are forced into it through economic necessity, while most call girls make a choice.











Aileen1968 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 5:44:55 AM)

Having never personally known a hooker, I would have to guess that someone who becomes one, does so not because it was a career goal, but out of necessity.
To me, that indicates a strong sense of survival. Doing whatever it takes.
Does that mean that there is no integrity? Absolutely not.
I'm sure there are a ton of people in high powered accepted professions that are total scumbags.
Whether or not someone has integrity has nothing to do with how they pay the bills.



blacksword404 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 5:57:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
...I answered why I thought she didn't have integrity. Did you miss that? I told you that it was based on how she looked at the marks she went after.. she used them in a cold fashion. Her intent. Disregarded them as human beings. so lack of integrity. That then was brought up because she went after Ron Paul's  supposed lack of integrity so I pointed out that we've all fallen from grace now and then...


i don't understand Your point, then. Regardless of whether Hannah showed lack of integrity as a prostitute, we have all fallen from grace now and then: You, me, Ron Paul, Hannah, everyone. We have all acted without integrity at some point or other. Why should that automatically discredit everything the person does or says, forever?

pam


You also have to consider that people also are creatures of habit and ease. That's why people believe once a cheated always a cheater. Once you compromise once its easier to do it again. With most people you will always carry a taint.



VirginPotty -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:02:08 AM)

No correlation was my vote.  I agree that it's a survival instinct.  You did what you had to do.  I agree w/Lucy,
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THe wrong person was blamed for having no integrity.

Personally I don't see why paying for sex is illegal.  It's a woman's body to do w/as she wants.  Why give it away when you can both benefit?  As for the danger, it's just as dangerous to give it away, if the man's going to kill you he'll do it whatever the situation.
Don't let other poster's throwing this in your face bother you HLH.  It's their way of trying to win an argument by making you feel small & to do that they have to try & knock you down.



LadyConstanze -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:03:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Having never personally known a hooker, I would have to guess that someone who becomes one, does so not because it was a career goal, but out of necessity.
To me, that indicates a strong sense of survival. Doing whatever it takes.
Does that mean that there is no integrity? Absolutely not.
I'm sure there are a ton of people in high powered accepted professions that are total scumbags.
Whether or not someone has integrity has nothing to do with how they pay the bills.


I dunno, I've known quite a few, if you travel lots you tend to meet them in nice hotels at the bar quite often, and you wouldn't guess. Most of them are extremely attractive, very well dressed (nothing flashy, the look is usually "trophy wife"), quite well spoken and they make uhhh tremendous amounts of money and they don't get hired by the hour but usually for days or a week, all expenses paid and a couple of K a day. Most of them accompany rather wealthy business men on their travels, I think for them it is a career choice.



Aileen1968 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:08:37 AM)

When I think of hookers, I think of the ones you see on the West Side Highway in NYC.
They ain't elegant by any definition.
To me, you're describing more of an escort service.
And while they are hookers, I don't think you can lump them in with the ones on the street corner.
Maybe I'm wrong thinking like that.



LadyConstanze -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:15:35 AM)

Nope, they are completely different, I was just agreeing with what Chatte said, there are different levels of the same job, essentially they are doing the same but the "higher up the ladder" you are, the better you seem to be treated and paid.



Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 7:15:29 AM)

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To those who would impune the integrity of one who is or was a prostitute for this alone, I must object.

Must you..seriously, Must you?



Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 7:52:23 AM)

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I don't have to make you, ya twit. You'll do it for fun, just like I will.

Ya know...my sense of humor has me wanting to say something here. :)

Anyway to the rest. I enjoy baking and such but you won't find me serving you anything. People at my house fend for themselves. Besides, You'd probably get TOO MUCH enjoyment out of it and therefore, will not receive it from me. [:D]

So put your own dab of ice-cream on your own piece of blueberry pie. The plate and fork are in the cabinet and the pie/ice-cream are in the fridge. [:D]



LaTigresse -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 8:12:49 AM)

Using fast reply...

I think it would be interesting, though likely impossible, to create a poll based upon the negativity towards women that get paid for sex and the underlying, perhaps subconscious, knee jerk reaction/drive for that negativity.

Depending upon gender and marital status, I think the core is fear based.

I was thinking about this as I drove this morning.

For women, especially married women, I think there is the survival desire to believe that THEIR man would never utilize a paid service. The very core of their belief in that man depends upon their 'knowing' he would never do such a thing. To suggest otherwise threatens their core beliefs in marriage, the type of man that would use a prostitute versus the man they want their man to be, etc.

For men, it's likely at minimum a two part fear.

One being pure relationship survival. They would never want their relationship partner to know they would sometimes, just like a fuck. No strings, no expectations, no.......I gotta listen to her piss and moan, make her happy, etc etc etc.......just do make my dick happy. Taking it a step further than masturbation, or maybe even seen as 3D porn/masturbation. I don't think, in this context, they even want to see the prostitute as human. More of a living breathing sex doll. No more, no less.

Then you have the whole machismo fear factor. I think that a lot of guys don't want the label of "I had to pay for sex." Even expressed on this thread, there is an obvious LOSER factor. If a guy has to pay for it, he must be one hell of a loser. What guy wants to deal with that. Hell, most men seem to spend their entire lives trying to prove they are MEN!

I only remember seeing one person, ever, on these forums, admit to paying a sex worker. And that was a woman. Odds have it that quite a few of the men have, but likely would never admit it, for the above reasons and a few others I've not thought of.

So that leads me to wonder, because I am like that.......if the guys that do the most attacking are a lot like those politicians that love to shit talk homosexuality but get caught trolling for male prostitutes.



Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 8:34:58 AM)

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So that leads me to wonder, because I am like that.......if the guys that do the most attacking are a lot like those politicians that love to shit talk homosexuality but get caught trolling for male prostitutes.

No what you do is a passive/aggressive attack under the guise of being curious about something.

Plenty of men don't use prostitutes. I've never used one and I still find it unappealing. I'm sure many men don't as well and would say that they had less respect for people who do for various reasons.

Now if it were made legal, I wouldn't use one but it might clear up, for me at least, a lot of the issues with it, from certain standpoints. Morally, probably not so much.



LaTigresse -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 8:43:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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So that leads me to wonder, because I am like that.......if the guys that do the most attacking are a lot like those politicians that love to shit talk homosexuality but get caught trolling for male prostitutes.

No what you do is a passive/aggressive attack under the guise of being curious about something.

Plenty of men don't use prostitutes. I've never used one and I still find it unappealing. I'm sure many men don't as well and would that they had less respect for people who do for various reasons.

Now if it were made legal, I wouldn't use one but it might clear up, for me at least, a lot of the issues with it, from certain standpoints. Morally, probably not so much.



You are making assumptions. Wrong assumptions based upon your own filters. Those filters speak of your intent, not mine, since you have no way of knowing my intent or my filters.

It's okay. We all do it. It is the part of being human that causes the most communication disconnects.



Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 8:59:50 AM)

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You are making assumptions. Wrong assumptions based upon your own filters. Those filters speak of your intent, not mine, since you have no way of knowing my intent or my filters.

Do you think it could be my fear of prostitutes?



gungadin09 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 9:01:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

...We have all acted without integrity at some point or other. Why should that automatically discredit everything the person does or says, forever?


You also have to consider that people also are creatures of habit and ease. That's why people believe once a cheated always a cheater. Once you compromise once its easier to do it again. With most people you will always carry a taint.



How easily you forgive someone their mistakes depends a lot on the circumstances: how big the ethical compromise was, how many times it happened, and what droven the person to do it. i imagine most people are driven to prostitution out of desperation, and many were victims of abuse. That is a mitigating factor. Add to the equation the fact that prostitution does NOT represent an ethical compromise for some people, but rather a straight business deal, and it isn't always illegal. i'm not sure it's a wise career choice, but does it necessarily mean compromised integrity? No, that depends on the circumstances. Which is why i voted "it depends on the circumstances".

pam



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