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prostitution/integrity poll


prostitute = no integrity
  14% (13)
no corelation
  85% (76)


Total Votes : 89
(last vote on : 10/8/2012 7:45:41 PM)
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tj444 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:03:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Perhaps men and society that have trained some women to expect dinner, a nice house, vacations, $$, etc as payment for sex.. where else does it come from otherwise?

So we've brainwashed you so we could get the snatch now is it. :) Ya know everytime I see that avatar and hear you talk about wanting to be liked for you and not just your pussy I can't help but wonder what you're thinking. I'm in marketing so...if you have that mouse twitching it's nose, it's bound to attract cats, ya know. [:D]

You have to take responsibility at some point for the way you think.


fuck, this is a forum, we are just words in cyberspace.. lol I like to be cheeky sometimes. I like my cute tit mouse. It makes me smile and laugh, its silly but cute.. its not there for marketing.. its meant to be funny.. I posted it once on a womens forum, it got deleted immediately.. bunch of killjoys.. [>:]

I dont have any pics on my profile, nothing at all.. i am really not here for that at this time.. when i am looking again, then i will post pics and then you will see marketing, baby! [:D]

So, i like being a tease, just like some men do (you for one with your red velvet cake and cooking prowess). It doesnt mean a guy can buy me or get me easily... you can ask some of the guys that have tried.. and yeah, sure, i am a slut, but its only gonna be for that one right guy..




HannahLynHeather -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:05:54 PM)

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why wasn't the question, "Does Hannah lack integrity because she was a prostitute?"
because i wasn't interested in the answer to that question. others are. i asked what i wanted to ask, people are answering what they want to answer. i can't help it if the latter bears little resemblance to former. i told heather to shut the fuck up and stop derailing, i'd do the same with others, but i don't have the authority over them. [;)]

i honestly don't give a flying fuck what people here think of my integrity, that's between me and my conscience, and i'm a far less forgiving a judge than any fucker on here.

anyway, it's been an interesting read so far, carry on and enjoy yourselves folks.

oh the poll is at 10 for no integrity & 49 for no correlation.




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:11:17 PM)

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Likewise, You seem to be flip flopping.

Point those things out willya cause I think you're missing uhhh...something.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:12:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444
Perhaps men and society that have trained some women to expect dinner, a nice house, vacations, $$, etc as payment for sex.. where else does it come from otherwise?


Tj,

As a woman who had all that, a husband, house with a white picket fence (literally) vacations, $ (not loads of it but we did ok) and children - I can tell you that I never once felt as if I had bought it all with sex. We worked hard for it, both of us. It was a mutual achievement not a transaction.

I've only ever dated a couple times, so I can't speak toward that. I do recall the one guy that seemed angry when he dropped me off and I didn't invite him in. Maybe he felt he was 'owed' a little someth'n but so sad for him.

To not allow someone to treat you special, because you are afraid of owing them something, seems a very sad state of mind to me. Does it work in reverse? If you pay for the meal, do you expect the men to put out?

WinD




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:13:36 PM)

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oh the poll is at 10 for no integrity & 49 for no correlation.


Yes of course it is but place it on a more mainstream location.. Tell your story then come back and brag. We both know it would be wildly different.

It was a feel good thread and support thread for you. You have validation now.




LadyPact -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:15:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Well, when you get up here, you'll see. Meals get cooked, but if you want a bite in-between, you get up and you get it yourself. You're welcome to anything in the fridge.

Well I don't want anyone serving me. I can get my own plate. [:D]

That may be happening sooner than later if I don't piss this buyer off. :)

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Nah. I'm going to stick with young and stupid. It sure wasn't smart. All of the stuff that 'could have' happened to Me never did. No rhyme or reason. I just lucked out.

If that's how you look at your early years, then that's fine for you.


Just come up.  I'll give you a meal and a bed.

That's it... That's all.




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:15:45 PM)

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To not allow someone to treat you special, because you are afraid of owing them something, seems a very sad state of mind to me. Does it work in reverse? If you pay for the meal, do you expect the men to put out?

Yep and you're really hot winnie. How about dinner. [;)]

(I can't help myself..it's too much fun [:D])




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:17:39 PM)

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Just come up. I'll give you a meal and a bed.

That's it... That's all.

If I wind up in town for awhile depending on the plan that fits then I'll think about it. I'm not specifically headed your way. In the general direction sure.

edit: Where are my manners....Thanks.




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:20:24 PM)

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its not there for marketing

Oh I get it and you get it but it is advertising. Don't be naive about that. Just means though you might have a few extra that you'll have to fend off. [:D]




gungadin09 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:20:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Hannah's regularly railed against her customers for their behaviour.  Their attitude towards their wives, their attitude towards her, their attitude towards prostitution itself.  This would tend to imply that she has a belief system which espouses certain ideas of how people should treat each other.


i'll give You that one. It IS inconsistent to complain about how men used her, when she was using them.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Both then and now, that value system is in conflict with her actions.  She damaged and demeaned herself and the customers. 


Again, it's true she did, but how did that action conflict with her value system?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Or rather, they participated in damaging themselves and each other.  And now, she has a gender bias based upon her experiences which she blames them for.
 

She is also trying to get over it. Having integrity doesn't mean you're perfect. It just means you TRY to make your actions match your beliefs. Call her a bigot if You want. But where is the justice in criticising her integrity? She has aknowledged she has a problem. She is working to correct it. Where is the lack of integrity?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Many men are too stupid to understand what going to a hooker does to their sense of self-worth.  She's too stubborn to admit she was complicit in her own self-harm. 


Are You sure she doesn't admit that she was complicit in her own self harm? Read that thread again, as well as the one expressing gratitude to the men that got her out of that predicament.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
In a sense, both are culpable and both are victims.  And I'd question the integrity of each one of them.


i think You're defining the term "integrity" too loosely.

pam




PeonForHer -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:24:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather
i'm a far less forgiving a judge than any fucker on here.



You think?

You wouldn't believe how harsh I can be with certain people who I think are damaging themselves.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:26:46 PM)

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It was a feel good thread and support thread for you. You have validation now.
no it wasn't intended to be. i don't seek or need validation from anybody. the majority of the posts are anything but supportive. fuck, icky, if anything it's your thread, not mine. you've been running it right from the start. if it's about me it's because you insist on making it about me, any time somebody tries to discuss the question in the abstract you drag me right the fuck back into it.

you want it to be about me, and you won't let it be anything else.

i won't reply to your reply denying this all, so don't waste a lot of effort on it. a simple "fuck you hannah" will suffice.




tj444 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:27:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444
Perhaps men and society that have trained some women to expect dinner, a nice house, vacations, $$, etc as payment for sex.. where else does it come from otherwise?


Tj,

As a woman who had all that, a husband, house with a white picket fence (literally) vacations, $ (not loads of it but we did ok) and children - I can tell you that I never once felt as if I had bought it all with sex. We worked hard for it, both of us. It was a mutual achievement not a transaction.

I've only ever dated a couple times, so I can't speak toward that. I do recall the one guy that seemed angry when he dropped me off and I didn't invite him in. Maybe he felt he was 'owed' a little someth'n but so sad for him.

To not allow someone to treat you special, because you are afraid of owing them something, seems a very sad state of mind to me. Does it work in reverse? If you pay for the meal, do you expect the men to put out?

WinD

did the husband have the house, vacations, $ etc before you were together or after? just curious..
I was referring to some women, btw, not all women. I was thinking more the Hefner girlfriend types actually..

I dont buy men dinner so no, it doesnt work in reverse. Its men i dont know that i dont want to go for dinner with, if someone wants to date me then we can do any number of other things.. that don't cost money (or do something and go dutch on the cost of it). The point is, i want to get to know the real man (warts and all), not the facade. I want to know that he wants to get to know me, not just after pussy..

If a girl has her own money and doesnt need to depend on a guy for that and he knows that, dont you think that changes the dyanmic a bit?




gungadin09 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:35:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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why wasn't the question, "Does Hannah lack integrity because she was a prostitute?"
because i wasn't interested in the answer to that question. others are. i asked what i wanted to ask, people are answering what they want to answer. i can't help it if the latter bears little resemblance to former. i told heather to shut the fuck up and stop derailing, i'd do the same with others, but i don't have the authority over them. [;)]

i honestly don't give a flying fuck what people here think of my integrity, that's between me and my conscience, and i'm a far less forgiving a judge than any fucker on here.


If you didn't want to hear discussion about your integrity, you should not have brought up the dispute with Icarys over your integrity IN YOUR OP. Sorry, but anything you say in the OP is on topic. It would have been just as well to leave it out, if it was besides the point, but it's too late now.

pam




HannahLynHeather -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:42:41 PM)

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You think?

You wouldn't believe how harsh I can be with certain people who I think are damaging themselves.
fair enough, let me rephrase.

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i'm far less forgiving a judge than any fucker on here except maybe for that fucking hard ass peon.
better?




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:42:47 PM)

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fuck, icky, if anything it's your thread, not mine. you've been running it right from the start. if it's about me it's because you insist on making it about me, any time somebody tries to discuss the question in the abstract you drag me right the fuck back into it.

It was about you, you just made it about the whole hookerdom because you know what the out come would be on a site like this. At least what you thought it would be and you were right.

You made a statement on someone Else's integrity so I brought up yours here.

"When you can stop using men without regard to them as human beings and you can wash the cum stains from your intestinal track then come and talk to me about integrity and the failings of people. Till then, I aint gonna listen to you. Know what i mean."

The thing here is that she still uses men based on her thread so she aint no shining star. You guys go ahead though and we'll see how long it is before a male comes around talking the same shit about using and discarding women so then the shitstorm commences.

It's okay.. I'll be right there to remind you If I see it. As usual.

I brought up your past. You decided to make a poll about hookers in general as an argument point. Simple as that.

Edit: I'm out.




tj444 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:45:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys
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its not there for marketing

Oh I get it and you get it but it is advertising. Don't be naive about that. Just means though you might have a few extra that you'll have to fend off. [:D]

actually no, its not there to attract men, any more than Heathers cute wiggly butt is to attract men for her to fend off.. lol I think men are much more attracted to my viewpoints than anything else, or so they tell me..

but did you notice, since i put my tit mouse as my avatar, there have been a lot more animated avatars.. so i guess you are right in that respect, its been advertising for people to find and put up cute animated avatars.. [:D]




Icarys -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:49:04 PM)

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actually no, its not there to attract men,

It doesn't matter why it was put there, to deny it has an affect is to deny a set of high heals that arch the back just right has none as well.

It's silly.




PeonForHer -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:50:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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i'm far less forgiving a judge than any fucker on here except maybe for that fucking hard ass peon.
better?



Thanks - but I'm not much good at 'hard ass', Heather. Not my thing.




tj444 -> RE: prostitution/integrity poll (8/19/2011 6:58:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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actually no, its not there to attract men,

It doesn't matter why it was put there, to deny it has an affect is to deny a set of high heals that arch the back just right has none as well.

It's silly.


ok, let me put it to you this way,.. i have not had a surge in emails from guys on the forums reading my posts and seeing the cute tit mouse avatar.. seriously,.. no increase.. and i think i have gotten just as many emails from straight women!




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