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Endivius -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/21/2011 6:37:43 PM)

I've been raped repeatedly over the years. I suppose I'm a glutton for punishment. It's what I get for being naive and thinking driving the poor woman home would end in a few dollars for gas and a thank you. Damn those viscous nymphos picking on a helpless and weak man with such low self esteem. DAMN THEM!!!



NiceGuyNihilist -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/21/2011 10:19:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

Oh dear Lord, who cares? It's a dumb little survey where 4 hot flirtatious girls are asking a bunch of people an awkward somewhat embarrassing sex-related question. It's not scientific, it's mostly just fun! I mean look at what our last poll told us, that was an interesting result now wasn't it?

It's NGN's survey, we're going with his questions. He's the client, so to speak.



Haha. Wow. I thought you were just going to post it on the Internet somewhere and let an automated program collect answers from students who happened to stumble across it. Thanks for taking the trouble, seriously.

The four of you have more guts than I do. I'd never dare approach total strangers in person and ask a question like this. Then again, I'd imagine it will sound a good deal less jarring coming from you than it would from me. I can just picture what it might look like if I tried...

Clipboard-toting giant with shorn head and leather motorcycle jacket lumbers over to a pair of women strolling along an otherwise deserted sidewalk and says, in gruff bass rumble, "Hey, sorry, I don't mean to bother you, but I'm just conducting a survey here, and..."

Riiiiiight.

Thanks again.



HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 12:47:40 AM)

Cute clipboard-toting girl just topping 5' with hair in pig tails and a tight shirt and short skirt bounces over to some women strolling along an otherwise deserted sidewalk and says, with a giggle while blushing......

Yes, I can see how they might possibly be just the slightest bit less intimidated. [:D]



Endivius -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 1:03:34 AM)

See this is what's wrong with the world. I just cannot seem to look manly and respectable in pig tails. I'm gonna have the ACLU look into this.



phoenixmoonn13 -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 3:49:11 AM)

i will be honest not read through the replys toomany. master was abused by a man as a child but hes so open and honest about it and he has fully come to terms with it he did as a child and it in no way effects him at all now. so for me no



xssve -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 6:16:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: xssve


Men tend to avoid "damaged goods", women flock to it like moths to the flame.



Absolutely don't agree with this. I always expect women to be nutty to one degree or another. *All* women are. Sorry, but there it is.

I've got the fatherly instinct - and I know it'd work fine with a Domme, too. I know it sounds weird, but I'm quite sure I could be dominated by a woman who at the same time I'm looking after in what would sometimes feel like quite a daddy/daughter-like way. I don't have any problem with that image, and mix of feelings, whatsoever.

One thing I'll never, ever expect about any D/s relationship of mine is that the feelings involved will be ordered, reasonable and neat. I've done neat: now I want untidy. ;-)

It's a generality, it represents the hypothetical middle of a hypothetical curve - truth is, "women" have changed since they entered the workforce, in my observation, used to be nurturing (and cleaning) was about the only thing anybody considered them good for, so they made a point of it, people in general are more out for themselves these days, it's good marketing technique: socially isolated Narcissists have no other way to measure they're self-worth other than through conspicuous consumption.

But, the fact remains, there are more female groupies of death row inmates than the converse, although there are a few of those as well - Ten or Twenty years from now, who knows?



NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 7:08:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

Cute clipboard-toting girl just topping 5' with hair in pig tails and a tight shirt and short skirt bounces over to some women strolling along an otherwise deserted sidewalk and says, with a giggle while blushing......

Yes, I can see how they might possibly be just the slightest bit less intimidated. [:D]



I'd dropkick you.



Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 7:21:20 AM)

Yeah, but you're fucked in the head anyway.



Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 7:33:32 AM)

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But, the fact remains, there are more female groupies of death row inmates than the converse
Now this wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that there are roughly 80 - 100 men on death row for every woman would it?



NiceGuyNihilist -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 12:26:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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But, the fact remains, there are more female groupies of death row inmates than the converse
Now this wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that there are roughly 80 - 100 men on death row for every woman would it?


Okay, so let's say the ratio of male death row inmates to female death row inmates is 100:1. Assume that the number of men and the number of women in the total population who have both access to the news and the means of contacting a prisoner is equal. Is the ratio of female groupies to male groupies different than we should expect, on the assumption that men and women are equally likely to fall for a bad girl or bad boy, respectively?

This is a tough one to puzzle out. You have to consider more than just the ratio of condemned men to condemned women as compared to the ratio of male groupies to female groupies. There's also the amount of media attention each case gets. There aren't as many condemned women as condemned men, but I suspect a given woman's chances of shooting to ultra-notoriety are higher than a man's.

It's too bad there's no way to quantify notoriety. If you were to take a broad survey of things, and observe that relatively low-profile male killers get more chick fan-mail than should be expected given their ranking on some kind of "notoriety index" (as compared to the amount of male fan-mail received by, say, Casey Anthony), you'd make a very good start toward making a case that chicks are more likely to dig fucked-up guys than guys are to dig fucked-up women.



Mastif -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 1:57:59 PM)

Masters sub speaking-,i would not be repulsed by or think any less of.



NocturnalStalker -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 11:41:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Yeah, but you're fucked in the head anyway.


I prefer, "insane" thank you!



DeviantlyD -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/22/2011 11:45:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Yeah, but you're fucked in the head anyway.


Well gee, that's what I think about you. [:)]



HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/23/2011 12:09:30 AM)

Gee, is somebody butthurt over being roughly handled in an argument online the over the weekend?



DeviantlyD -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/23/2011 12:12:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

Gee, is somebody butthurt over being roughly handled in an argument online the over the weekend?


No, did you? [:D]

Typo, btw.



HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/25/2011 9:33:33 AM)

Well, the results are in. This survey we had a very small sample from Germany as well for the first question. Term hasn't started there yet so she couldn't really get a lot of people, but she did ask a few friends. There was no significant difference in the answers she got (40%/40%/20%).

Here are the overall results.



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NiceGuyNihilist -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/25/2011 11:44:30 AM)

And with his cynicism well vindicated, NGN retired to the deepest wilderness to get stoned and read pessimistic German philosophy for the rest of his days.






Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/25/2011 12:01:53 PM)

Well I wouldn't exactly call 39% "Well vindicated", rather the opposite actually.



PeonForHer -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/25/2011 3:35:31 PM)

39% is still a pretty big figure, Arpig - especially given the presumably highly educated nature of the interviewees. TBH, with a new prospective partner, my gut instinct would tell me to stay quiet about any bi fantasies I've had, never mind bi experiences, and I'd absolutely stay quiet about being raped by another man.

Me, to be blunt, I expect a certain 'unreconstructedness' amongst women when it comes to their view of men, even if they have the most right-on views about feminism.

Sometimes I think women want men to be like rocks to stand on. They'd appreciate their being smoother around the edges, but when all's said and done the last thing they want is for them to move at all. We're supposed to be the devil they know. We shout sometimes, but we don't ever cry.



Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/25/2011 9:59:43 PM)

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39% is still a pretty big figure, Arpig
Granted, no argument there at all, I just think "well vindicated" is a bit of wishful thinking on his part.



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