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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/12/2006 7:08:57 AM

agirl

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I don't think someone that is fat is *worth* any more or less than me because I'm slim. Someone is more likely to be *put-off* me because of my personality than my size, in any case.

My daughter is a *big girl* for quite a few *understandable* reasons and it'd be ridiculous to say that it makes any difference to how I feel about her. She's exactly the same lovely person she always has been......but, she cannot DO things that she could when she was slim, she can't look the way SHE would like to look in clothes, at the moment, she doesn't find any joy or pleasure in rolls of flab hanging over her waist bands, she doesn't LIKE wobbling when she runs, she doesn't enjoy seeing dimpled fat when she flexes and moves around. She's the same person as she was when she was slimmer though.

If you love your body, that's superb......I'm slim and don't like everything about mine, that's for sure.......ultimately it's what you're comfortable with or at least, what you can ,or have to, accept about yourself.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/12/2006 7:23:27 AM

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Why are these flaw related threads, (body image, emotionally unstable, needy, high maintenence, selfish, rude, real, not real, abuse victims) always, I mean always written about submissive women?

Are dominant men ever overweight? Underweight? Selfish? Rude? Abused as children? Haboring low self-esteems? Not "real"? Emotionally damaged? Needy?

Or are submissive women overly tolerant of flaws in others? Ooops! Is that yet another flaw we have to be critisized for?

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/12/2006 7:42:54 AM

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Oh...I've seen PLENTY of heavily overweight Dominant men. Some who happened to be super rude. (One guy was 350 pounds, at least...and dared to call me fat

lol)

Everyone is going to have SOME sort of flaw....nobody is perfect.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/12/2006 8:09:11 AM

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I just wish more slender/ petite women would join this site for those of us who prefer that type.

I just wish more clean shaven men would join this site for those of us who perfer that type.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/31/2006 7:02:00 PM

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I just wish more slender/ petite women would join this site for those of us who prefer that type.

I just wish more young dominants were on this site for those of us who like the under 35 crowd.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/31/2006 7:04:52 PM

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I just wish more slender/ petite women would join this site for those of us who prefer that type.

I just wish more clean shaven men would join this site for those of us who perfer that type.

I just wish someone would hook this thread up to a morphine drip so it could die comfortably and with dignity.

Oh, and I wish I had a million dollars.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/31/2006 7:08:44 PM

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A-fucking-men, heather.....but I'm not helping by posting this, am I? *giggles* oopsy

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 10/31/2006 11:02:13 PM

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The problem here is not realy how OP`s Master wiew overweight pepole, he can think what he want, the problem is realy the nuber of pepole thinking like him, that somone that is fat, and especialy a fat woman is a no good, lazy loser that simply dont care aboute their lives and that none can love if they are not given somthing, like sex. That all it takes is a little willpower and not being lazy and poof, slim. And this attitude make many look down on fat pepole. The case is, if it was so easy, not being lazy why do pepole all over the world live in deep depression over their weight issues, why do many pepole comit sueside. i wonder if the OP`s Master have ever had a weight issue he is trying to fix, the case is that yes, in theory for most pepole, less unhealthy food and more exersise will reduce their wieght, the problem is it is seldom that easy. often there are causes for the overeating, causes that are not the induvidual in question wish to stuff themself.

i suffer som depression, and when the world get to dark i end up cheering mself up whit chochoathe or some other candy, then i get more depressed when the sugar go out of the system and i buy another bady bar, now for me to stop overeating i need to deal whit the underlaying cause, becouse i overeat becouse i am depressed, do that make me lazy, not it make me depressed. The forumula seams simple the problem is caused b exsessive intake of unhealthy food and to little exersise, so add exersise and take away unhealthy food, but in reality going by that formula is harder than most that have not tried have ever imagined, not becouse we fat pepole are laz, but becouse there is often underleying cocerns.

In edition some are just chobby by nature and have to starve themself or take medication to get to what sosiety considers thin, some just like a bit of more meat on their bones, who is to say cobby is less beautiful than thin, in many cultures a chobby girl is considerd more beautiful than one that is wery thin, beauty is in the mind of the beholder.

Now when it comes to the OP`s and her Master, they are entiteld to their option to, just as i am to mine, and if that opinion happens to be an unpopular one, they still have a right to it, the only concern i have is what if one of the children in question here get overweight, how will this man then react, will he still be nuturing or will he tell them they are lazy loosers becouse their bodies down look like the fashion creators in paris and Milano have said a beautiful body is to look.

To answer the OPs original question: i have a pretty face, good eyes, thich good hair and while i am overwigh i have a pretty body, i know this, i can inteligently make theese notes aboute the face and shape i see in the mirror, but becouse of constant bullying in school, i can not belive it, and i feel ugly. i wish to lose weight for health reasons and becouse i have gotten interested in goth clothes and they are hard to find in big sizes in Norway, but when i reatch my goal of a size medium, i think i will still look in the mirror and feel the ghosts of past bullying, just the way i do now. What make me see myself as ugly is low self esteem, not the esta kilos on my flesh.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/11/2006 2:46:38 PM

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soo, all very good posts, but how bout some advice, any ideas on a good diet that dont starve you to death?... *can hear some say join jenny craig* lol
i am slightly over my ideal weight, have a few lovehandles now, but have been the skinny rake before too, i just want to get to an ideal weight, without having to feel i missed out on all the lovelies to eat, heard you can lose weight without eliminating some foods in your diet.. at the moment am just trying to eat smaller amounts and in moderation...
any miracle diets out there.
oh by the way, i think all body types are beautiful, just like there are all sorts of personalities there are all sorts of people and sizes.. i just like to remember, im not like them, im me and will do the best for me and love it.
be well A/all

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/11/2006 4:39:33 PM

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How's about letting this thread die the death it so deserves and start something else in another thread?

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/11/2006 4:43:51 PM

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I just wish I could find a wanton cocksucker.........

I can assure you that everyone's other hand is filling up.

Ron

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/11/2006 5:54:17 PM

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my Master didn't like bigger women, he is a professional level cyclist and very fit, when we met i was very slim and medications made me gain weight and caused my thyroid to become underactive. He has stood by me because He loves *me*, he doesn't like my size much because it makes me self conscious at times, but He still tells me i'm beautiful and He is the only person ever to see me fully naked, at the size i am now and when i was slim.
Because of His support i have been able to begin losing weight - something that i was not managing to do for all that so called 'friends' said i should and that i have 'such a pretty face' ,(meaning my body is less than desirable). Master has taken the pressure off as far as the obsession with food and i've lost over 3 1/2 stone. Positive reenforcement is a wonderful thing,
Sincerely,
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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/11/2006 7:28:57 PM

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would love to lose 3 1/2 stone, and would if i got offa my lazy arse to do so lol

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/11/2006 7:40:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: WindOWillow

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Are dominant men ever overweight? Underweight? Selfish? Rude? Abused as children? Haboring low self-esteems? Not "real"? Emotionally damaged? Needy?

No - and, my mother told me in bed the other night that my weight is no one's fault except all of those bad submissive women - so I stopped crying.
So screw you!!

~J

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/14/2006 9:12:49 PM

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Once upon a time I was 225lbs, and wore a size 18-20....in a 6 week period i lost 75lbs.. and went down tto a size 12. yes I looked fabulous according tot he man that brok my heart and is the reason that prompted my rapid weight loss....but want to know a secret? He lusted after me at 225! I felt more secure at my heaviest weight.. I spent the majority of my life being voluptuous.....now being ont he smaller size...well Imnot used to it... I worry about the different lumps and bumps i have that i didnt notice when i was well rounded...but they are obvious now that i do not have the extra padding

i continue to be one of the most sought after submissives...well at least i believe that i am...I recieve anywhere between 35-50 emails from various sites asking me to get to know people. I am descrimination and honestly anyone that mentions an aversion to a heavy woman...I instantly cross them off of a potential playmate list...I was a big girl when i look intot he mirror i have the same mirrio and continue to see a heavy lady... I object to someone making comments about people at all critiqueing their appearances...and what not....

My only comments that i accept are concerning things that people can do someething about..(ie hygenic issues, and choices of inappropriate dress)

and I leave the rest to your own opinion on how to deal with curvacious and voluptuous people....as I said in my journal...I have seen many a plus size woman who i believe are the most beautiful in the world becasue of thier philosophy and life's work...where as i find some women who are a fantasy size 5...who can open their mouth and immediately become the most horrific creature ever encountered die to their crude and pathetic life's work ethic....

i find a woman who is a size 24 at 5-2 but who is a caring and kind lady....a woman at size 5 and 5-3 who are mean and speak ill of others...or that they are selfish and ungiving.

and so that is my take on this issue

have a great day
little red

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/14/2006 9:15:34 PM

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All I have to say is this...

ITS BAACCCCKKKKK

arg!!

Magik's slave

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/14/2006 9:31:53 PM

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....as I said in my journal...I have seen many a plus size woman who i believe are the most beautiful in the world becasue of thier philosophy and life's work...where as i find some women who are a fantasy size 5...who can open their mouth and immediately become the most horrific creature ever encountered die to their crude and pathetic life's work ethic....
i find a woman who is a size 24 at 5-2 but who is a caring and kind lady....a woman at size 5 and 5-3 who are mean and speak ill of others...or that they are selfish and ungiving.

I take caution with these kinds of descriptive, they always seem to infer that fat people have more inside them than thin people.....gotta question that kinda life philosophy. Apart from the issue of more fat cells in their body carcass, fat people have no more of anything else than thin people.

Better off to say...fat or thin ..its the inner qualities that count the most..and that's that hey.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/15/2006 8:12:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

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....as I said in my journal...I have seen many a plus size woman who i believe are the most beautiful in the world becasue of thier philosophy and life's work...where as i find some women who are a fantasy size 5...who can open their mouth and immediately become the most horrific creature ever encountered die to their crude and pathetic life's work ethic....
i find a woman who is a size 24 at 5-2 but who is a caring and kind lady....a woman at size 5 and 5-3 who are mean and speak ill of others...or that they are selfish and ungiving.

I take caution with these kinds of descriptive, they always seem to infer that fat people have more inside them than thin people.....gotta question that kinda life philosophy. Apart from the issue of more fat cells in their body carcass, fat people have no more of anything else than thin people.

Better off to say...fat or thin ..its the inner qualities that count the most..and that's that hey.

Really? I always think it means that people who are constantly hungry and starving themselves are, and naturally enough, in a bad mood. I'm not thin but if I skip meals I get bitchy. He'll say something about my mood and I will then realize he's been running me ragged all day and not stopping to feed me.

The physical affects the psychological. You can't be happy and serene when you are hungry, angry, fearful, overtired, lonely and in need of a hug.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/15/2006 11:05:47 AM

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All I have to say is this...

ITS BAACCCCKKKKK

arg!!

Magik's slave

This is the thread that does not end.
It just goes on and on , my friend....

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 11/15/2006 11:33:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

All I have to say is this...

ITS BAACCCCKKKKK

arg!!

Magik's slave

This is the thread that does not end.
It just goes on and on , my friend....

Some people started posting in it not knowing what it was and they'll continue posting in it forever just becasue...

LOL

Magik's slave

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