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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:07:25 AM   
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i only say Enda Culshie Kenny because that s what he is. Bertie Ahern was from Dublin but he was an even bigger disgrace, a beggar man if ever there was one, constantly looking for others for money and the Manchester Handouts, a bloody big kick up the arse is what he needed, he was drawing a disgraceful salary and doing NOTHING to earn it, he got us into this mess him and the other Fianna Failures
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:22:46 AM   
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in no way am i part of the bourgeoisie as you describe it. i live modestly , i give to charity every Sunday, i give to Concern every month €7 per month, not a huge ton but there are people who make twice as much as me and they do not give this. if everybody gave €7 per month to an ngo or other charity there would not be poverty in the world. do i despise politicians? in a word yes and why? because of their double speak and their hypocrisy they talk about getting people to tighten their belts but will they tighten their own belt will they cut down on their expenses funded by taxpayer's money, will they hell, they dont, they go on expensive junkets and they make up pick up the tab. Also Bertie Ahern a Dubliner, was the worst example of leadership i have known, he was a class 1 hypocrite, he expostulated on how people should not abuse the public trust, and that there would be no room for people who abuse the public trust in his the leading party with him the Taoiseach from 1997-2009, yet he gratuitously abused people's trust as we all well know and was constantly with his hand out, set up the very costly Tribunals mainly for him, all costing tax payer's money while continuing to act the lout that he truly was, a lout, an overpaid LOUT
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:23:47 AM   
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i only say Enda Culshie Kenny because that s what he is. Bertie Ahern was from Dublin but he was an even bigger disgrace, a beggar man if ever there was one, constantly looking for others for money and the Manchester Handouts, a bloody big kick up the arse is what he needed, he was drawing a disgraceful salary and doing NOTHING to earn it, he got us into this mess him and the other Fianna Failures

Culshie is a prejorative term for those who didn't grow up in Dublin. I agree Ahern is a disgusting individual but how do you make out Kenny is a disgrace? He has done a great job so far which explains why his ratings and Fine Gael's soared even after making difficult unpopular decisions in government. You act like Ahern & Fianna Fail are still in government!


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i worked bloody hard for over twenty years in school to get the best possible education i could, yes i do fucking deserve a decent salary out of that, but like everything else, the State looks after a few grubby politicians, self aggrandising developers and rapacious bankers who waste our money and then expect man and Woman taxpayer to foot the bill...

Kevin you probably got a free state education at primary and secondary level, combined with a free third level education combined with a generous grant. That education was provided by the state and will stand in good stead for time to come (assuming it was a good result lol) but it doesn't entitle you to implicitely expect more than everybody else.

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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:26:19 AM   
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Believe me mate politicans are all cut from the same cloth, they are out to line their pockets, and look after themselves, why do we never hear for example Enda Kenny wanting to take a pay cut, because it doenst work that way , they make mistakes, and the taxpayer takes up the tab. Fine Gael Fianna Fail they are all the same, me feiners, if you know what that means , the whole bloody lot
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:29:34 AM   
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Also do you not find this amazing, in the early years in power, there were no stories about Ahern's impropriety it only arose later, dont be surprised if we hear about corruption from Enda Kenny later down the line. Remember this : power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. i hope not but i wont be surprised if we hear scandals surrounding Enda Kenny's leadership and how implementing savage and penal taxes and cutting services everywhere including social welfare, the one s who will suffer the most, the least of our brethern as Christ would say, how that is doing a good job, defies logic to me, but the real problem is Ireland is beholden to the parasites in Brussels, the IMF
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:33:40 AM   
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the real problem is Ireland is beholden to the parasites in Brussels, the IMF

You calling anyone else a parasite is utterly laughable. 


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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:35:04 AM   
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Correction i got no grant. And my education was not free as it wasnt free for anyone. Free Education is a euphemism. Yet another piece of idealistic claptrap that the powers that be convey to us to try and convince us that they are with us, that we are all in this together, that we cherish the children of the nation equally, well im sorry but its total crap, this society is for the political and business elite, paid by the lower and middle classes, for the benefit of the political and business bourgeoisie who get away with paying almost no tax on their unjustifiably high salaries
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:36:45 AM   
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And i might add show absolutely no accountability and are allowed to make all manner of cock ups with the assurance that taxpayer will clear up the mess while everyone else gets hammered for every mistake that they might make including the loss of their jobs, something these snowflakes will never have to suffer
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:38:40 AM   
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Well what else would you call them? Innovators, Altruists, Benefactors, they are none of the above they waltz into a country, have the temerity to tell them how the country should be run, despite the fact that it was THEIR MISMANAGEMENT that caused the mess in the first place
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:39:22 AM   
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the real problem is Ireland is beholden to the parasites in Brussels, the IMF

You calling anyone else a parasite is utterly laughable. 




wait.. I thought Irelands financial woes were caused by the U.S..... ???

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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:41:23 AM   
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Believe me mate politicans are all cut from the same cloth, they are out to line their pockets, and look after themselves, why do we never hear for example Enda Kenny wanting to take a pay cut, because it doenst work that way , they make mistakes, and the taxpayer takes up the tab. Fine Gael Fianna Fail they are all the same, me feiners, if you know what that means , the whole bloody lot

Sorry I won't believe you. I find this lazy "oh they are all the same" bullshit irritating when Fianna Fail had been in power for so long and the opposition didn't have much chance. Some politicians are pretty decent actually. BTW Enda Kenny took a 7% pay cut which was one of the first things he did when he took office. All the other ministers did as well.

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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:42:49 AM   
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Well the International Monetary mismanagers paid a pivotal role too but yes the main cause was the sub prime which was perpetrated in America, This lead to a massive loss of confidence in banks across the world, banks stopped lending to each other, and hence our current problem, but really it was the Americans banks that were at fault they should have never lent money to people who they knew would have great difficulty in paying it back. they should have been more careful
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:46:20 AM   
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7% wup id ee do dah day, i think ill do cartwheels. NOT. 7% is nothing. How much of a pay cut do you think the average worker has taken? In many cases it has been full, meaning loss of job and in those that have managed to fortunately keep their jobs it has been a hell of a lot more than 7% . 7% is an insult, the fact is an inconsequential leader of an inconsequential country should not be earning $290,000 a year, it should be more like $100,000 a year or even less because who would argue that the Czech Republic is less significant than Ireland internationally, not many, Ireland is not a shit on the map in all senses of the word and yet we pay our leaders like they are monarchs. It is a disgrace
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:48:00 AM   
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Correction i got no grant. And my education was not free as it wasnt free for anyone. Free Education is a euphemism. Yet another piece of idealistic claptrap that the powers that be convey to us to try and convince us that they are with us, that we are all in this together, that we cherish the children of the nation equally, well im sorry but its total crap, this society is for the political and business elite, paid by the lower and middle classes, for the benefit of the political and business bourgeoisie who get away with paying almost no tax on their unjustifiably high salaries

Bullshit, education is free. Yes it is paid for by the tax payer but is effectively far less than one would have to pay for a private education. The latter favours the wealthy whilst the former is equalised amongst all classes. All one has to do is compare inequality of education in other countries where such a service doesn't exist. Your third level education is also free when in most parts of the world it isn't. I'm planning to return for an MA next year and will face roughly 5,000 Euros in fees and a 1,600+ Euro registration free as well. That is the sort of money you would face as well if it wasn't free. Be thankful you don't have to pay crippling student loans like in other countries.

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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:49:48 AM   
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Correction i got no grant. And my education was not free as it wasnt free for anyone. Free Education is a euphemism. Yet another piece of idealistic claptrap that the powers that be convey to us to try and convince us that they are with us, that we are all in this together, that we cherish the children of the nation equally, well im sorry but its total crap, this society is for the political and business elite, paid by the lower and middle classes, for the benefit of the political and business bourgeoisie who get away with paying almost no tax on their unjustifiably high salaries
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But did you pay for it?


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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:51:24 AM   
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7% wup id ee do dah day, i think ill do cartwheels. NOT. 7% is nothing. How much of a pay cut do you think the average worker has taken? In many cases it has been full, meaning loss of job and in those that have managed to fortunately keep their jobs it has been a hell of a lot more than 7% . 7% is an insult, the fact is an inconsequential leader of an inconsequential country should not be earning $290,000 a year, it should be more like $100,000 a year or even less because who would argue that the Czech Republic is less significant than Ireland internationally, not many, Ireland is not a shit on the map in all senses of the word and yet we pay our leaders like they are monarchs. It is a disgrace

You said he din't take any pay cut but he did. It wasn't enough but it was a move in the right direction and done voluntarily. He does get too much still but ruling a country isn't a bed of roses especially when going through a severe recession so if he and the rest of the government manages to bring the country out of recession it will be worth every penny.

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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:51:54 AM   
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so... it's a worldwide conspiracy to PUT IRELAND DOWN, kevvie? First the U.S., now Brussels (which is a city, btw, not a country)....

oh wait.. it's all about putting YOU down, but affecting the whole of Ireland is just a by product of that..

gotcha.



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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:52:33 AM   
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Yes i am . i am paying for junkets constantly now that are doing nothing for this shithole of an island we fondly call the Emerald Isle which is really a banana republic of biblical proportions. i and the other hard pressed taxpayers
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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:54:08 AM   
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poor poor baby... *yawn*

I just wonder why nobody else I talk to that is from Ireland whines. I would say whines like you do, but they simply dont whine.

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RE: Sexy Irish Women - 10/12/2011 11:54:58 AM   
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But he wont. He is not doing a damn thing. He has done plenty of talking, plenty of promises but nothing is being delivered. Meanwhile he is on more than the Prime Minister of the UK despite the fact that the Uk is further down the road to recovery than this miserable drizzly shithole. He for example promised a children''s referendum in the first 100 days. Well it has not come to pass, all talk no action is our Enda
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