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A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 5:34:52 AM   
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I'm sitting in an Indian restaurant with a lady friend and another couple. It is loud. There are lots of waiters moving around. The tables are quite close together. After we order 2 couples sit down at the table next to us. They are south Indian, speaking loudly in some south Indian tongue. One of them has a young child.

The two women are sitting on one side of the table the two men opposite. They order drinks and settle down. They appear to be good friends, the two women are chatting away and the two men are talking.

At my table we are happily discussing the food, travel and other miscellaneous stuff. We are distracted by the voices of the people to our right. Clearly one of the men is upset about something. He says something to his wife opposite who responds. I don't know the language she was speaking but I know the tone. CRACK!

The woman is crying, I can see the outline on her dark skin of where the back of her husbands hand smacked her cheek. She's sobbing looking down at her plate. The husband turns to the man next to him and again, I don't know the words but I know the tone, he apologizes for his wife's behaviour and having to have him witness her slapped. The friend shrugs -- these things happen.

They continue talking animatedly and quite happily. The other woman who had been talking and laughing with the now crying lady besides her keeps quiet, avoids eye contact and says nothing.

The woman who was hit is no longer sobbing loudly, she is now crying quietly. They order food, the men quite happily chatting away, one woman silent and the other crying. The lady who was crying didn't receive any food, whether by choice or command I do not know.

After about 40 minutes they pay the bill and get up to leave -- the men are quite drunk by now - the woman still crying quietly, a bruise forming on her cheek. As they get up the man pushes her in front of him in a rather haphazard, 'get moving if you no what's good for you manner'. He turns to me and shrugs, these things happen, women. I politely nod and give the slightest of smiles. They leave.

Everyone at my table discusses the incident. The verdict is unanimous -- she pissed him of and embarrassed him in front of his friend. He is just drunk enough. She's going to get a thrashing when they get home.

We finish dinner and drinks and pay the bill and leave after a very pleasant evening.
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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 5:40:24 AM   
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Ouch.
I would love to think that it was a foursome consensual BDSM kinky game. But the chances are about 0.0001%, so... ouch.


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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:00:05 AM   
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Dude, what is it about seeing someone get punished in public that you consider "pleasant"?




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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:01:38 AM   
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Dude, what is it about seeing someone get punished in public that you consider "pleasant"?
I am 99% convinced that the OP is full of bitter irony. Very, very bitter. How they evening got completely spoiled by having to see that event. So I interpreted it, extreme bitter irony.

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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:10:25 AM   
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this is an interesting post -- what if what happened wasn't a consensual kink thing? i wonder sometimes if the S&M lens really changes how i might perceive something that's an actual case of domestic violence?

it's possible that the post is ironic -- i don't think it would be all that pleasant to see someone else get punished, even knowing that it was a consensual dynamic. i'm more than likely now, though, not to immediately think "oh geez domestic violence!" it could very well be a consensual thing. but i'm also concerned about his behavior once drunk. it makes me think it's something kinda nefarious...

definitely not my ideal of a pleasant evening.


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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:12:10 AM   
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I'm figuring the OP is full of something...not so much the bitter irony.

He watched a man who he says had had a drink or two assault a woman in public. He makes the assumption that she is in for more of the same when she gets home.

And he does nothing.

Yeah, way to go.

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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:12:29 AM   
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I've intervened when a neighbor was hitting his girlfriend - what's the proper response when it's strangers in public? Who may not speak the same language? What would y'all do?

Note: This started out in General BDSM, so for the purpose of discussion, I was not treating it like creative writing.

However, as someone who enjoys face slapping and has never been bruised by it, I would probably call the cops if I witnessed this.





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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:18:39 AM   
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that's one of those weird grey areas -- here in the US we believe that is wrong. in other countries/cultures, they believe it's totally okay. how do you intervene in a situation like that? plus, sometimes getting a stranger involved makes it worse when they get home.

i would probably have called the police myself, but then i imagine... what if someone called the police on my Top friend because they thought i looked underage (people apparently think this, and ask him about it when i'm not around)? i could just show my ID, but that would be awkward. still, an outright violent situation... i thnk that's also a little different.

regardless of the culture he's from, we have laws HERE that prevent that, so... calling the cops might be the only appropriate response, at least for me, rather than getting involved myself without the authority to really do anything, and just making it worse.


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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:18:41 AM   
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I was having a quiet drink in a bar with a friend when I saw a man slap a woman so hard across the face she fell backwards, hit her head on the bar and fell to the floor.

I got out my phone, dialled 999 and called the police to report the assault.

It's up to her whether she presses charges or not, but you can be damn sure the perp's name would be on record so that when he did it again, it would show a pattern.



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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:18:58 AM   
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quote:

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I've intervened when a neighbor was hitting his girlfriend - what's the proper response when it's strangers in public? Who may not speak the same language? What would y'all do?
In Germany you can call the police.
They come, they ask the customers... they separate the girls and ask them. They call an interpreter. Was it a kinky consensual game? The police gives a (void) "warning", gets some laugh, and says goodbye. If not, the girls are informed about their rights and German law. Do they have the suspicion of regular violence; or does the girl want to denounce (please notice the "or")? They are brought to the police station and more measures are taken. Even if the wife insists convincingly that this was an exception and she does not want to denounce, they get the personal data for the case.

But in the USA, I have not the slightest idea.


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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:21:40 AM   
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quote:

2 couples sit down at the table next to us. They are south Indian, speaking loudly in some south Indian tongue. One of them has a young child.


This occurred in front of a young child? Absolutely not acceptable.


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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:21:59 AM   
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I'm aware that this post is in creative writing, but it disturbs me to think that this is something that the OP views as 'pleasant' or 'acceptable'.

OP - a suggestion. If you're going to create a writing like this, we need a bit more backstory or detail to guide us towards the conclusion you want us to reach. At the moment it's just abuse for abuse's sake - not kinky, just nasty.

You need another layer of detail to make this story into something hot...

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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:22:36 AM   
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After reading the OP, then taking a look at the OP's profile, it was my impression that he was saying he thought the actions of the man that struck his wife to be appropriate, just, and the way the world should be. 

I hope I'm wrong.

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RE: A Very Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:23:01 AM   
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Moved to "creative writing"?? WTF(1)?







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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:23:52 AM   
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well some people do fantasize about a world where this sort of behavior is more acceptable, so maybe that's what the OP is trying to relate? as off-putting as it may be, some people do wish it were so. 

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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:25:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: igor2003
I hope I'm wrong.
I hope you are wrong.


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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:25:57 AM   
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nevermind....did not realize it was just a creative writing exercise

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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:27:59 AM   
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i don't think you are wrong.


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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 6:55:14 AM   
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nevermind....did not realize it was just a creative writing exercise
I do not know if this is true? How did you arrive to that conclusion? If a moderator did it, how did the moderator arrive to that conclusion?


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RE: A Very Un-Pleasant Meal - 10/17/2011 7:38:47 AM   
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nevermind....did not realize it was just a creative writing exercise


This started out in General BDSM and was quickly moved. I cannot speak to the OP's or moderator's intent.









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