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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u

OMG!! I haven't ever posted in these things. I usually just come for a few laughs. I couldnt resist. Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all. I do understand women and men that can't do anything to fix their situation except maybe thousands in surgery. But theres plenty who just let themselves go so to speak. I have several girlfriends who dont take care of their body. They get men sure. But none of them have healthy relationships. Its always a revolving door. The desperate seek the desperate.

It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc? I lose count how many times a girl at the club is wearing something she has no buisness wearing. Dont dress like your hot if your not! The OP did say some cruel things. Some didnt make a whole lot of sense. Theres someone out there for everyone. Thats what I think. Some people do get frustrated at this site being their own real life playboy and playgirl modeling pics. Sometimes I just browse profiles and it does get disgusting sometimes. Its one thing to be fat and comfortable with it. It doesnt mean everyone else wants to see it flaunted like your a centerfold. I get messages from men and women...and yeah a large portion of them are fat. I don't think I am the the hottest girl here, but I am attractive.

So to answer the OP, yes for some reason there are alot of overweight people here. its definately not my thing. The sad part is most could attempt to change it but choose not too.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u

OMG!! I haven't ever posted in these things. I usually just come for a few laughs. I couldnt resist. Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all. I do understand women and men that can't do anything to fix their situation except maybe thousands in surgery. But theres plenty who just let themselves go so to speak. I have several girlfriends who dont take care of their body. They get men sure. But none of them have healthy relationships. Its always a revolving door. The desperate seek the desperate.

It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc? I lose count how many times a girl at the club is wearing something she has no buisness wearing. Dont dress like your hot if your not! The OP did say some cruel things. Some didnt make a whole lot of sense. Theres someone out there for everyone. Thats what I think. Some people do get frustrated at this site being their own real life playboy and playgirl modeling pics. Sometimes I just browse profiles and it does get disgusting sometimes. Its one thing to be fat and comfortable with it. It doesnt mean everyone else wants to see it flaunted like your a centerfold. I get messages from men and women...and yeah a large portion of them are fat. I don't think I am the the hottest girl here, but I am attractive.

So to answer the OP, yes for some reason there are alot of overweight people here. its definately not my thing. The sad part is most could attempt to change it but choose not too.

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master
I believe the underlying reason has been brought up, that they are willing to submit to humiliation or subservience because of low self esteem and I wonder if that reason means that BDSM might not be a healthy outlet for many overweight women.  But since no discussion is allowed on this "taboo" subject, we may never get to truly examine what is going on both emotionally and psychologically.

discussion is not accepted because it's never as objective as you want to think it is. even here, what you "believe" to be the real reason is based in bias and stereotypical assumptions about what "must be wrong" with overweight people -- but that's only because you believe those things must be wrong.
you're assuming that thin women don't have self esteem issues -- otherwise, wouldn't this low self esteem rule then apply to anyone?
you're assuming that overweight women do -- i know quite a few who are pretty proud of themselves and flaunt every single extra inch of what they've got. so are they into BDSM because of their low self-esteem?
what about the thin women who are HUGELY into humiliation, and the fat women who abhor it and only want submission on their very specific terms? what about overweight Dommes and switches?

you don't even understand that you are not objective because you are so absolutely convinced of the correctness of your bias. how do you have a conversation, if you don't believe you could possibly be incorrect?

and finally, i see absolutely no man has even bothered to speculate at the motivations of overweight MEN. -- oh yeah, that's right, because in the immortal words of Peter Griffin, "Lois, men aren't fat, only fat women are fat."

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master
I believe the underlying reason has been brought up, that they are willing to submit to humiliation or subservience because of low self esteem and I wonder if that reason means that BDSM might not be a healthy outlet for many overweight women.  But since no discussion is allowed on this "taboo" subject, we may never get to truly examine what is going on both emotionally and psychologically.

discussion is not accepted because it's never as objective as you want to think it is. even here, what you "believe" to be the real reason is based in bias and stereotypical assumptions about what "must be wrong" with overweight people -- but that's only because you believe those things must be wrong.
you're assuming that thin women don't have self esteem issues -- otherwise, wouldn't this low self esteem rule then apply to anyone?
you're assuming that overweight women do -- i know quite a few who are pretty proud of themselves and flaunt every single extra inch of what they've got. so are they into BDSM because of their low self-esteem?
what about the thin women who are HUGELY into humiliation, and the fat women who abhor it and only want submission on their very specific terms? what about overweight Dommes and switches?

you don't even understand that you are not objective because you are so absolutely convinced of the correctness of your bias. how do you have a conversation, if you don't believe you could possibly be incorrect?

and finally, i see absolutely no man has even bothered to speculate at the motivations of overweight MEN. -- oh yeah, that's right, because in the immortal words of Peter Griffin, "Lois, men aren't fat, only fat women are fat."

I disagree.  I think the "bias" here is in the people responding to the observation, not the observers themselves.  It is a valid observation afterall.  And no man bothers to speculate at the motivations of overweight men because there has been no observation that a disproportionate number of overweight men are drawn to the BDSM lifestyle.  Far from it, I've noticed fewer overweight men at the munches and events I've been to than is the norm and far MORE overweight women than is the norm.
Like any good scientific analysis, the question isn't based upon bias, it's based upon observable, measurable FACT.
The people reacting badly to the question are the ones who seem very biased.

YOU are making assumptions, not me.  YOU make the assumption that I assume thin women don't have self-esteem issues.  I've never said any such thing.  Nor do I make such an assumption.

When I propose that the only theory for the prevalence of overweight women in the BDSM scene might have legs it's only because it IS the only theory that has been put forth.  Everyone else who might add something of substance to this discussion is too busy ducking and weaving from the verbal assaults of the likes of you to put any in depth thought into the discussion.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u

OMG!! I haven't ever posted in these things. I usually just come for a few laughs. I couldnt resist. Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all. I do understand women and men that can't do anything to fix their situation except maybe thousands in surgery. But theres plenty who just let themselves go so to speak. I have several girlfriends who dont take care of their body. They get men sure. But none of them have healthy relationships. Its always a revolving door. The desperate seek the desperate.

It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc? I lose count how many times a girl at the club is wearing something she has no buisness wearing. Dont dress like your hot if your not! The OP did say some cruel things. Some didnt make a whole lot of sense. Theres someone out there for everyone. Thats what I think. Some people do get frustrated at this site being their own real life playboy and playgirl modeling pics. Sometimes I just browse profiles and it does get disgusting sometimes. Its one thing to be fat and comfortable with it. It doesnt mean everyone else wants to see it flaunted like your a centerfold. I get messages from men and women...and yeah a large portion of them are fat. I don't think I am the the hottest girl here, but I am attractive.

So to answer the OP, yes for some reason there are alot of overweight people here. its definately not my thing. The sad part is most could attempt to change it but choose not too.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master
I believe the underlying reason has been brought up, that they are willing to submit to humiliation or subservience because of low self esteem and I wonder if that reason means that BDSM might not be a healthy outlet for many overweight women.  But since no discussion is allowed on this "taboo" subject, we may never get to truly examine what is going on both emotionally and psychologically.

discussion is not accepted because it's never as objective as you want to think it is. even here, what you "believe" to be the real reason is based in bias and stereotypical assumptions about what "must be wrong" with overweight people -- but that's only because you believe those things must be wrong.
you're assuming that thin women don't have self esteem issues -- otherwise, wouldn't this low self esteem rule then apply to anyone?
you're assuming that overweight women do -- i know quite a few who are pretty proud of themselves and flaunt every single extra inch of what they've got. so are they into BDSM because of their low self-esteem?
what about the thin women who are HUGELY into humiliation, and the fat women who abhor it and only want submission on their very specific terms? what about overweight Dommes and switches?

you don't even understand that you are not objective because you are so absolutely convinced of the correctness of your bias. how do you have a conversation, if you don't believe you could possibly be incorrect?

and finally, i see absolutely no man has even bothered to speculate at the motivations of overweight MEN. -- oh yeah, that's right, because in the immortal words of Peter Griffin, "Lois, men aren't fat, only fat women are fat."

I disagree.  I think the "bias" here is in the people responding to the observation, not the observers themselves.  It is a valid observation afterall.  And no man bothers to speculate at the motivations of overweight men because there has been no observation that a disproportionate number of overweight men are drawn to the BDSM lifestyle.  Far from it, I've noticed fewer overweight men at the munches and events I've been to than is the norm and far MORE overweight women than is the norm.
Like any good scientific analysis, the question isn't based upon bias, it's based upon observable, measurable FACT.
The people reacting badly to the question are the ones who seem very biased.

YOU are making assumptions, not me.  YOU make the assumption that I assume thin women don't have self-esteem issues.  I've never said any such thing.  Nor do I make such an assumption.

When I propose that the only theory for the prevalence of overweight women in the BDSM scene might have legs it's only because it IS the only theory that has been put forth.  Everyone else who might add something of substance to this discussion is too busy ducking and weaving from the verbal assaults of the likes of you to put any in depth thought into the discussion.

So are you saying that out of every 10 women at these events, only 1-2 are slim or average sized?

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
I've seen overweight women consistently underrepresented at the fetish events I gone to and vastly underrepresented at the fetish dance club I go to.

I suspect that individuals who have to try harder to get a date (for whatever reason) are overrepresented at online dating sites and dating events, regardless of whether it's BDSM or vanilla. That would also explain why lesbians are overrepresented on collarme.

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

Ailey - I did the Princess in February at DisneyWorld and the Disneyland this past September. Run Disney has a program if you do two halfs in one calendar year (one on each coast) you qualify for a third medal (the Coast-to-Coast). The one in my hand is from the Princess.

Disney has the BEST medals....so cool.

I liked the vibe at the Princess better than the Disneyland. Princess is all women (well kinda) and the vibe is more about the "personal best". I'm considering doing one more half marathon - the Wine and Dine. It is in FL in October every year. It is the only evening half and they have a heck of an afterparty at Epcot (during the International Food and Wine Festival). The route goes through Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios and finishes at Epcot.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u

OMG!! I haven't ever posted in these things. I usually just come for a few laughs. I couldnt resist. Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all. I do understand women and men that can't do anything to fix their situation except maybe thousands in surgery. But theres plenty who just let themselves go so to speak. I have several girlfriends who dont take care of their body. They get men sure. But none of them have healthy relationships. Its always a revolving door. The desperate seek the desperate.

It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc? I lose count how many times a girl at the club is wearing something she has no buisness wearing. Dont dress like your hot if your not! The OP did say some cruel things. Some didnt make a whole lot of sense. Theres someone out there for everyone. Thats what I think. Some people do get frustrated at this site being their own real life playboy and playgirl modeling pics. Sometimes I just browse profiles and it does get disgusting sometimes. Its one thing to be fat and comfortable with it. It doesnt mean everyone else wants to see it flaunted like your a centerfold. I get messages from men and women...and yeah a large portion of them are fat. I don't think I am the the hottest girl here, but I am attractive.

So to answer the OP, yes for some reason there are alot of overweight people here. its definately not my thing. The sad part is most could attempt to change it but choose not too.

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker
You just spent an entire topic defending the hardships of fat people and now you're mocking someone's sexuality by calling them gay. 

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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox
Say what you want, but when I've tried to get girls I know personally to come to bsdm clubs they all say the same things. The guys there are faggots and the girls are fatties in goth clothing.

And they are right.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u
Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u
It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc?

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master
no man bothers to speculate at the motivations of overweight men because there has been no observation that a disproportionate number of overweight men are drawn to the BDSM lifestyle.  Far from it, I've noticed fewer overweight men at the munches and events I've been to than is the norm and far MORE overweight women than is the norm.
Like any good scientific analysis, the question isn't based upon bias, it's based upon observable, measurable FACT.

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ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby

Once again, I'm tackling more than one here because I only want to post once.

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker
You just spent an entire topic defending the hardships of fat people and now you're mocking someone's sexuality by calling them gay. 

Listen, HE is the one who said:

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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox
Say what you want, but when I've tried to get girls I know personally to come to bsdm clubs they all say the same things. The guys there are faggots and the girls are fatties in goth clothing.

And they are right.

So he just as much as said he's gay. He said he agreed with the girls who say that and he obviously goes to those clubs, or else why would he want THEM to go? I have absolutely nothing against gay people. I have multiple good friends that are either gay men or lesbians and I have no problems with that.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u
Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all.

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u
It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc?

Yes, most of us women over 40 do look past it when seeing all the fat men over 40. But, from the sounds of this thread, most fat men over 40 don't look past it regarding women in their own age group. As for stretch marks and cellulite being gross, yeah, nobody wants to see it, but you had better hope to God/dess or whatever the hell you might believe in that you never have a baby or get any older than you are right now. Because, if you do either, you will be eating your words.

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ORIGINAL: OICU8Master
no man bothers to speculate at the motivations of overweight men because there has been no observation that a disproportionate number of overweight men are drawn to the BDSM lifestyle.  Far from it, I've noticed fewer overweight men at the munches and events I've been to than is the norm and far MORE overweight women than is the norm.
Like any good scientific analysis, the question isn't based upon bias, it's based upon observable, measurable FACT.

You mean YOU haven't observed a disproportionate number of overweight men at these functions. Just how often do you check out the men at these functions, paying attention to how attractive they are and so on? Probably not very often, since you're looking for submissive women, not men.

I see plenty of fat men at BDSM functions AND I see plenty of fat men on here and on Fetlife both. I'm a switch and now I have a Dom, but I haven't always had one, so I've looked at men on BOTH sides of the kneel and, yeah, there are fat male subs AND fat male Dominants. And plenty of them.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: alexislave4u

OMG!! I haven't ever posted in these things. I usually just come for a few laughs. I couldnt resist. Lets face it. Almost everyone who responded to this thing is over 40 from looks of it. They say looks fade and all that. Maybe its common middle aged women look past it all. I do understand women and men that can't do anything to fix their situation except maybe thousands in surgery. But theres plenty who just let themselves go so to speak. I have several girlfriends who dont take care of their body. They get men sure. But none of them have healthy relationships. Its always a revolving door. The desperate seek the desperate.

It is kinda gross. I mean who wants to see stretch marks, cellulite, etc? I lose count how many times a girl at the club is wearing something she has no buisness wearing. Dont dress like your hot if your not! The OP did say some cruel things. Some didnt make a whole lot of sense. Theres someone out there for everyone. Thats what I think. Some people do get frustrated at this site being their own real life playboy and playgirl modeling pics. Sometimes I just browse profiles and it does get disgusting sometimes. Its one thing to be fat and comfortable with it. It doesnt mean everyone else wants to see it flaunted like your a centerfold. I get messages from men and women...and yeah a large portion of them are fat. I don't think I am the the hottest girl here, but I am attractive.

So to answer the OP, yes for some reason there are alot of overweight people here. its definately not my thing. The sad part is most could attempt to change it but choose not too.

LOL.. okay, since no one wants to see the visible signs of motherhood and look at the disgusting display of aging womanhood... we will send all the whiny, bully types to your profile and let them look at you... then you can deal with them.

One thing... you better find the fountain of youth and never have a baby.