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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 1:43:22 AM   
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OP, I recommend that your gf goes to your local sexual health clinic to discuss her condom allergy.

I have an allergy to latex, so have to avoid latex condoms. I also have a serious allergy to pthalates (a plasticiser that is used in all sorts of plastics, including carrier bags, plastic packaging, rigid plastic stacking boxes, the coatings on some books and all sorts of weird stuff), which can result in anaphylaxis.

A referral to a dermatologist can help isolate the particular allergy she has, and thanks to cooperation between the dermatologist and my gynaecologist, we have found a brand of condoms that I'm actually not allergic too. And the good thing is, because I have this medical condition I can have these condoms on prescription which makes them a hell of a lot cheaper.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 5:02:20 AM   
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Incidentally, he claims to weigh 88 pounds.


He's in the UK. 88 kg = 194 pounds.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 5:13:10 AM   
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You realise we use pounds in the UK too right?

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 5:25:06 AM   
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I say in my original post, we have done it, we know it was the wrong thing to do, yes I know, so why the f^&k are you guys trying to make me realise this? IT'S REALISED!

That is clearly not the impression you gave with your statement in your OP:

quote:

The problem came when we got home, I had her in the lounge and was about to enter her when I noticed his cum leaving her pussy, and it that kind of ruined it for me.

Hence the need to focus on your stupidity.

I can read the responses impersonally, and counted 12 useful posts on page 1.

I found out about non-latex condoms immediately after my first sexual encounter after my husband and I split in 2001. Don't you think googling "alternatives to latex condoms" is more responsible behavior than deciding "even though regular condoms make me uncomfortable, I'm going to play Russian Roulette by having bareback sex with a stranger."?

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 5:27:16 AM   
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Sure, but which scenario do you think is more likely?

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 12:39:11 PM   
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Yes, I did indeed read the same post that you wrote. The two things that really came across loud and clear were:

The problem came when we got home, I had her in the lounge and was about to enter her when I noticed his cum leaving her pussy, and it that kind of ruined it for me.

Is there a option other than condoms? although I loved the idea of her being filled with stranger cum, I would still rather settle with the experience minus the cum.


You didn't seem to be at all worried about the fact that you exposed her to STDs, some of which she could NEVER EVER get rid of. The above quotes made it pretty clear to me that what you are worried about is how to get your rocks off without having to deal with the stranger cum that you wanted in her in the first place. It looks to me like you still don't want to use condoms, thereby maintaining your fantasy, you just don't want to deal with some strange cum when you're ready to do her yourself. My impression is that this thread was really started about your ruined fantasy and had nothing to do with how to be more health & safety conscious when you are doing it. Maybe that's why you got some of those not-so-nice replies that you did.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 12:50:25 PM   
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how do you not know there are condoms available not made of latex????

Has your girl even ever seen a doctor for her "allergies"?

I mean all you have to do is walk into any store that sells condoms and read the boxes. They'll either say "latex" or some other material that isn't latex.

Personally if you knew your girl had an "allergy" and you didn't bother to look into alternatives on the doctor, internet, friends, etc...then imo..you aren't ready for your fantasies or to have sex even.




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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 12:50:38 PM   
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That's exactly the impression I have too except I don't see those replies as especially " not so nice". They just aren't what you want to hear OP, which is (according to how I read your posts) how can I make it happen again. That your girl can't use condoms is bullshit. There are non-latex condoms that can be used. I suspect the issue with condoms has more to do with you not wanting to use them.

These days anyone with half a brain knows it's a bad idea to have unprotected sex with strangers, yet you and your girl went ahead anyway. To say that was stupid is putting it mildly, you were both irresponsible in the extreme. You haven't said whether your girl will be or has been tested for STI, I really hope she has or will be.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 12:56:00 PM   
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That's exactly the impression I have too except I don't see those replies as especially " not so nice".

Yes, looking back on what I posted, I worded it wrong, I should have said "Maybe that's why you got some of those replies that you thought were not-so-nice." It appeared to me to have nothing to do with his concern for health or safety, so I didn't write my answer from that angle either.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 1:00:10 PM   
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Years ago I was a dumb ass and had unprotected sex, thank God I was lucky and didn't catch some of the things my friends caught. Unless you want the doctor to be burning or freezing genital warts off your penis (maybe you are a masochist)...



Condoms do not offer protection against HPV (genital wart) because very often, the warts are in a location that isn't covered by a condom.
HPV can even be contagious without clearly visible warts showing, so even if you visually inspect the area, and use a condom, you can still get affected with the virus.
HPV can be transmitted through any form of contact, including blow jobs, hand jobs, oral, mastrubation, or touching of any kind without a virus barrier.

Most people infected with HPV never show symptoms (warts) and wouldn't even ever know they have the virus without an STD test alerting them to it.
50% of the population has, at one time or another, been contaminated with HPV. Most of them clear the virus without even knowing they had it to begin with. In some cases, HPV can cause cervical or other cancers, some of them more life threatening than others.
In some cases, it may take decades -or never- before a person clears the virus, though most people clear it within 2 years from contamination.



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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 1:23:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

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ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

Years ago I was a dumb ass and had unprotected sex, thank God I was lucky and didn't catch some of the things my friends caught. Unless you want the doctor to be burning or freezing genital warts off your penis (maybe you are a masochist)...



Condoms do not offer protection against HPV (genital wart) because very often, the warts are in a location that isn't covered by a condom.
HPV can even be contagious without clearly visible warts showing, so even if you visually inspect the area, and use a condom, you can still get affected with the virus.
HPV can be transmitted through any form of contact, including blow jobs, hand jobs, oral, mastrubation, or touching of any kind without a virus barrier.

Most people infected with HPV never show symptoms (warts) and wouldn't even ever know they have the virus without an STD test alerting them to it.
50% of the population has, at one time or another, been contaminated with HPV. Most of them clear the virus without even knowing they had it to begin with. In some cases, HPV can cause cervical or other cancers, some of them more life threatening than others.
In some cases, it may take decades -or never- before a person clears the virus, though most people clear it within 2 years from contamination.





ok Ishtarr i do have to say that this is new info to me and I HAVE HPV. i never knew it was from warts and have never really had wart outbreaks that i know of. I get tested yearly for all STD/STI's and have came back clean. the only way i knew i had HPV was because i had a pap come back positive and then got it tested further and found out that i had mild displatia (spelling may be wrong). the thing that is catching me off guard is that you said some people clear it after 2 years. i find this kinda as a relief to me because other than about a year ago when i came back positive again though it wasnt tested to see if i was still at mild displatia or not all other paps and STD/STI screenings that i have had came back negative.

Is this a good thing?

i know me "airing" my personal business isnt the best since me and my husband are looking around for a possible 3rd to add to our household but now i am interested in this. and actually im going to copy this post and start a thread of its own for discussion about HPV because its one of the i guess lesser known about.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 1:56:25 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus

HPV does not ALWAYS mean they have genital warts! The link above will give more info...many women get HPV and never even know it and many even fight it off with no problems BUT it is very serious. Genital Warts can be from something completely different and are very contagious and cannot be covered with a condom. Not to mention lice and other icky things.

I'd also like to add to the OP that you'd be hard pressed to find someone on here that will condone your actions and how you've put yourself and someone else in danger. You asked for advice and you got it. You say you realized it was the wrong thing to do?? Why did it take this long to figure out, it should have never been done! And, in your original message you didn't say you realized it was wrong, you just didn't like the cum inside her, not that the action was wrong.... SAFE, sane, and consensual...not Harm, sane, and consensual or Sometimes safe, Sane, and Consensual...or Fuck it, I'm out of my freakin mind, and whatever...

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 1:59:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EmeraldsPheonix


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr

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ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

Years ago I was a dumb ass and had unprotected sex, thank God I was lucky and didn't catch some of the things my friends caught. Unless you want the doctor to be burning or freezing genital warts off your penis (maybe you are a masochist)...



Condoms do not offer protection against HPV (genital wart) because very often, the warts are in a location that isn't covered by a condom.
HPV can even be contagious without clearly visible warts showing, so even if you visually inspect the area, and use a condom, you can still get affected with the virus.
HPV can be transmitted through any form of contact, including blow jobs, hand jobs, oral, mastrubation, or touching of any kind without a virus barrier.

Most people infected with HPV never show symptoms (warts) and wouldn't even ever know they have the virus without an STD test alerting them to it.
50% of the population has, at one time or another, been contaminated with HPV. Most of them clear the virus without even knowing they had it to begin with. In some cases, HPV can cause cervical or other cancers, some of them more life threatening than others.
In some cases, it may take decades -or never- before a person clears the virus, though most people clear it within 2 years from contamination.





ok Ishtarr i do have to say that this is new info to me and I HAVE HPV. i never knew it was from warts and have never really had wart outbreaks that i know of. I get tested yearly for all STD/STI's and have came back clean. the only way i knew i had HPV was because i had a pap come back positive and then got it tested further and found out that i had mild displatia (spelling may be wrong). the thing that is catching me off guard is that you said some people clear it after 2 years. i find this kinda as a relief to me because other than about a year ago when i came back positive again though it wasnt tested to see if i was still at mild displatia or not all other paps and STD/STI screenings that i have had came back negative.

Is this a good thing?

i know me "airing" my personal business isnt the best since me and my husband are looking around for a possible 3rd to add to our household but now i am interested in this. and actually im going to copy this post and start a thread of its own for discussion about HPV because its one of the i guess lesser known about.


As a standard disclaimer: I'm not a medical expert, ask you doctor, blah blah.

I have HPV, I found out because I was diagnosed with early stage 1 cervical cancer.
I'll probably be at risk for the rest of my life, so I've done quite a bit of research on this subject.

It used to be assumed that HPV is never cleared, and that if you contract it, you have it for life. Currently, most sources seem to think that it's possible to clear the virus, and that if you do, it's probably going to happen within two years of infection.
The likelihood of clearing it if you have it longer than that become smaller every year (from what I understand).

There are over a 100 different strains of HPV, it's possible to be contaminated with more than one at any given time, and while having and clearing a certain strain will give you lifelong immunity to that specific strain, you can still get infected with it's other forms.
I have no information on if certain strains may be easier to clear than others.

Dysplatia is the symptom caused by HPV that can in turn cause cervical cancer. It's an alteration of the cell that is in a pre-cancer stage. It can be accompanied with a visible enlargement of the cells, but is often only visible under microscope.
It's different than a wart, in that warts aren't necessarily pre-cancerous, though they can be, and the likelihood of cells becoming dusplatic is larger if there have been warts in the area.
Women can still get cancer, or dusplatic cells even if there have never been visible warts.

If you have the virus, and especially if you've already had dysplatic cells, you will need to keep a close eye on your health for the rest of your life, unless your doctor can positively confirm that you've totally cleared the virus.
You should be tested EVER year, whether you've had unprotected sex or not.
Especially when considering a pregnancy you need to be careful, because illness or pregnancy and other conditions that affect and weaken the immune system can trigger outbreaks.
If you have outward symptoms while giving birth, you have a large likelihood of infecting the baby with the virus too, so you need to notify your gynecologist and may need symptom treatment prior to giving birth.

Talk to your doctor about this.

As a side note, there is a relatively new vaccine that is said to protect against the forms of HPV that are most likely to cause dysplatia and cervical cancer. Women who want to get this vaccine should do so before they become sexually active. This vaccine does not protect against all strains of HPV.

If there are any people with more medical expertise than me on this site, who notice any mistakes I may have made in the previous information PLEASE CORRECT THEM.

Ishtar

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 2:03:53 PM   
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I'd also like to add to the OP that you'd be hard pressed to find someone on here that will condone your actions and how you've put yourself and someone else in danger. You asked for advice and you got it. You say you realized it was the wrong thing to do?? Why did it take this long to figure out, it should have never been done! And, in your original message you didn't say you realized it was wrong, you just didn't like the cum inside her, not that the action was wrong.... SAFE, sane, and consensual...not Harm, sane, and consensual or Sometimes safe, Sane, and Consensual...or Fuck it, I'm out of my freakin mind, and whatever...

The OP is 34 years old, he's most certainly old enough to know better than to insist on no-barriers sex with a stranger. I think all he was concerned about was his wanky fantasy and both SAFE and SANE were the furthest things from what he did. As for consensual, well, he never did say whether she wanted to do it or not. I say the posters gave him what he deserved.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 3:08:54 PM   
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I agree!

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/23/2011 4:00:30 PM   
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To be clear, NATURAL condoms protect only against pregnancy and are not recommended at all for prevention of any STDs.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/24/2011 4:29:59 AM   
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Yes, I avoided mentioning sheepskin/lambskin condoms as they are just to prevent pregnancy and do not protect from the smaller STD germs.

Mates Naturals appear to be made from Latex.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/29/2011 5:53:08 PM   
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ok, I am actually sitting here with my mouth open wide wondering if you guys read the same post I wrote? I haven't read over all of the replies as I get the jist most of you just jumped on some sort of wagon going in the wrong direction.

I'd think the section of "Health and Safety" would be taken a bit more seriously than the other sections, due to it's purpose, and Id think it was a section people could come for advice.

I say in my original post, we have done it, we know it was the wrong thing to do, yes I know, so why the f^&k are you guys trying to make me realise this? IT'S REALISED!

I also say, I don't want to do it again with the cum, which means, I want an alternative option, yes I may see in hindsight that the title bareback dogging may imply its what I wish to do it like that in further, but I've told you, we chose that option due to the fact she can't use condoms.

Now I've noticed somewhere from your imaginary high throne, you have actually given some useful information, something both of myself and my partner did not know, and are going to look into, is condoms that aren't latex.

This place is supposed to be for advice and help people but with your stupid attitude you could potentially chase away people who you could actually help if you actually just stopped and thought before you typed.

For those of you that's post I didn't read but were infact helpful and to the point, this reply is not directed at you



What is it you realized? The fact that your partner and now possibly you might be infected? So which steps have you taken? Talked to health professionals, got tests lined up to make sure that not only you are not infected but also make sure you don't pass it on? The fact that you realized it AFTER the fact doesn't really indicate that you are responsible or given to actually do a lot of research or use your brains, and I mean the ones you have on your neck, not in your pants!

Complaining that this is the health an safety section and people are just baffled about the utter stupidity of somebody who does bareback with strangers, basically something that violates everything that health and safety is about - you got some cheek. Fucking great that you realize it was wrong, shame that it took some other guy's sperm in her pussy to make you think about it - and if it would have turned you on, you possibly still wouldn't think about it but dragging her out to do some more of it.
High horse because we think you are an amazingly stupid prick? Wake up and smell the coffee, or do you need a real slap!

If you weren't even aware of the fact that there are latex free condoms, you're possibly so ignorant that somebody should stop you from humping around with a quick chop. Most kids in elementary school know how to use Google, try it, it doesn't hurt.

You didn't get the velvet glove treatment and you're acting all hurt, oh cry me a river, what did you want to hear? That you acting like an irresponsible stupid prick is a great thing? Wrong place, we're grown ups, but hopefully you'll learn to not think with your dick one day, though I won't hold my breath!

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/30/2011 8:12:35 AM   
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She deserves someone better.I`d feel like I was blessed to have her,I would have gave her the best oral loveing she ever had.

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RE: bareback dogging - 10/31/2011 7:48:03 AM   
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You are playing Russian Roulette with HER LIFE!
She is trying to please you and is either not strong or educated enough to say NO to such foolish and dangerous conduct.
If you want to go and put your own life at risk, go ahead.

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