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ModTwentyOne -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/28/2011 4:04:37 PM)

The topic of this thread is whether or not people that dislike overweight people are less tolerant in other areas as well. It is not about who can or cannot lose weight or gain weight, how to lose weight or gain weight, or an opportunity to use perjorative terms like "fatties".







Hisprettybaby -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/28/2011 5:29:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne

The topic of this thread is whether or not people that dislike overweight people are less tolerant in other areas as well. It is not about who can or cannot lose weight or gain weight, how to lose weight or gain weight, or an opportunity to use perjorative terms like "fatties".





Thank you!!!!




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 9:01:19 AM)

I've had to think about it.  Ima fat chick too.   I find that a lot more people are intolerant and like to disguise it a lot of the time as "concern".  But then I know they're also intolerant of a lot of other things too.  So I try to keep them out of my life.   I know I'm overweight, no one telling me is making some great pronoucement like I wasn't aware of it.  Heck, I carry every day, don'tcha think I know already?

I was in emerg at the hospital yesterday, an elderly patient's wife asked me if I was in labour.  Now I know that without a bra, those over the shoulder boulders kinda sag, and I have a buddah belly no doubt about that either, to her it never crossed her mind that I might just be fat.  I find people just don't have a brain filter anymore and say whatever they want before they can stop and think before they regret it.  Society today doesn't stop and think before being rude and obnoxious to people who are overweight.  If you don't like what I look like, then it's easy, turn away, I'm not making you look at me.  I am who I am and that's the end of it.

I don't need unsolicited advice, or helpful comments, or plain ole rudeness to lose weight.  I don't eat take-out more than once a month, it's a treat for me.  I hate to go grocery shopping because I feel like I'm being judged on what I'm buying.  The same thing as going into Dairy Queen and ordering a cone on a really hot day, I feel like everyone is looking at me thinking "wow, she really needs to be eating that now doesn't she?".

Until you've walked a mile in an overweight person's shoes, then don't judge us, don't belittle us, don't make snide comments and if you're thinking it, then there's no need to say it in a carrying undertone you know will be heard.  I'm often hurt by the very people I hold closest to me by their insensitive remarks.  They just don't think before they speak.  I keep my mouth shut or I might lose it and I don't want to do that.  I know at least they have my best interests at heart.  But FFS, I'm an adult, I can look after myself and I don't need anyone to "help" me unless I ask for it.

'Nuff said.




littlewonder -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 9:10:12 AM)

uumm...you were in an emergency room.

She saw you and thought maybe you were having a baby and that's why you were there. People in emergency rooms like to talk to each other about whatever they are there for because it helps to take the stress out of the reason they are there. She probably felt she could talk to  you. I don't see how that was rude or talking without thinking.






TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 9:22:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

I've had to think about it.  Ima fat chick too.   I find that a lot more people are intolerant and like to disguise it a lot of the time as "concern".  But then I know they're also intolerant of a lot of other things too.  So I try to keep them out of my life.   I know I'm overweight, no one telling me is making some great pronoucement like I wasn't aware of it.  Heck, I carry every day, don'tcha think I know already?

I was in emerg at the hospital yesterday, an elderly patient's wife asked me if I was in labour.  Now I know that without a bra, those over the shoulder boulders kinda sag, and I have a buddah belly no doubt about that either, to her it never crossed her mind that I might just be fat.  I find people just don't have a brain filter anymore and say whatever they want before they can stop and think before they regret it.  Society today doesn't stop and think before being rude and obnoxious to people who are overweight.  If you don't like what I look like, then it's easy, turn away, I'm not making you look at me.  I am who I am and that's the end of it.

I don't need unsolicited advice, or helpful comments, or plain ole rudeness to lose weight.  I don't eat take-out more than once a month, it's a treat for me.  I hate to go grocery shopping because I feel like I'm being judged on what I'm buying.  The same thing as going into Dairy Queen and ordering a cone on a really hot day, I feel like everyone is looking at me thinking "wow, she really needs to be eating that now doesn't she?".

Until you've walked a mile in an overweight person's shoes, then don't judge us, don't belittle us, don't make snide comments and if you're thinking it, then there's no need to say it in a carrying undertone you know will be heard.  I'm often hurt by the very people I hold closest to me by their insensitive remarks.  They just don't think before they speak.  I keep my mouth shut or I might lose it and I don't want to do that.  I know at least they have my best interests at heart.  But FFS, I'm an adult, I can look after myself and I don't need anyone to "help" me unless I ask for it.

'Nuff said.



Sweetie, I love ya but that's YOU being self-conscious and imaging what people are thinking. Chances are they really don't care what you're doing.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 9:42:17 AM)

When I was thin, I had this adorable romper that kind of stood around me, which is the IDEA for summer heat. A gal asked me when I was due and was MORTIFIED when I pulled my dress against my flat stomach! Folks just go for preggo, I guess! I wasn't insulted, I know I had a pouffy profile.





ShaharThorne -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 10:02:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

Most overweight people in my personal experience have attitude problems, low self-esteem, and an endless supply of excuses. 

I'm sure it's a "thyroid" problem you have when you're munching down that McDonald's on a semi-regular basis and lounging around.



I do have a thyroid problem and take pills for it.  I also have arthritis in my hips and makes it difficult to walk and stand at times, not to mention that clump of nerves in my right hip.  I need to go back to the chiropractor for more therapy.

Funny thing is that I can't walk on the floor in Walmart because of the concrete yet I can walk around the house because of the carpet and padding. We are in the process of taking the carpet up because of the allergies and 13 years of dirt that the vacuum won't pick up.

Now, if someone wants to bully me, I can deliver a swift kick to the gonads or the head.  I can still roundhouse with the best of them. 




ShaharThorne -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 10:17:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Ima fat chick.  It is what it is.  I could do more to lose weight, but I haven't found the necessary discipline within me yet to do that.  I may or may not find it in the future, who knows.

I hate to agree with NS, but, I also find that many fat folks have bad attitudes towards others.  It is like, you can't hate me because I am fat, but I can call you a skinny bitch and make fun of you and your gorgeous friends.  Horseshit.  It can't be both ways.

I know some folks can not lose weight for various reasons.  Genetics, disease, lack of knowledge, mental illness, and the list goes on and on and on.

My main problem is the way that everyone goes on and on about how lazy and undisciplined we fat folks are.  I wish that bad eating habits and lack of exercise showed up with a wart on the nose or something, because I know just as many thin folks who have horrid habits, just like me, but they are not fat, simply because their genetics are different.

So, don't dig fat chicks.  I couldn't care less.  I have my own preferences about what I find attractive. 

But, gimme a break if you think that only fat folks have bad eating habits and don't exercise enough.  There are just as many thinner folks dropping dead from clogged arteries as their are fat folks.

Life is what it is.  Just live it.





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Lets not forget that genetics can play a part in it.  I got an aunt on my dad's side who is extremely overweight.   She is way bigger than me.  I am around 310 pounds, give or take a few.  A good portion is my chest (46DD) and I also suffer from edema (damn water gain...I want my sexy ankles back!).  Some folks might say that I don't get up and move about, but I do.  On the next warm day, I have to check the fence line to make sure there are no holes.  We are in a burn ban so we can't really rake up the leaves to burn.  I am busy working on Christmas (Yule) presents so I don't have to go all out for the holidays. (I take a manicure/pedicure myself or a leg waxing).






ShaharThorne -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 10:27:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Except the 19 year old's.....we were all skinny once.

I like bigger women because the younger (thinner ones) don't have the mental capacity to keep up with me.



I smell a challenge!!!




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 11:09:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe
quote:

ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear
I've had to think about it.  Ima fat chick too.   I find that a lot more people are intolerant and like to disguise it a lot of the time as "concern".  But then I know they're also intolerant of a lot of other things too.  So I try to keep them out of my life.   I know I'm overweight, no one telling me is making some great pronoucement like I wasn't aware of it.  Heck, I carry every day, don'tcha think I know already?

I was in emerg at the hospital yesterday, an elderly patient's wife asked me if I was in labour.  Now I know that without a bra, those over the shoulder boulders kinda sag, and I have a buddah belly no doubt about that either, to her it never crossed her mind that I might just be fat.  I find people just don't have a brain filter anymore and say whatever they want before they can stop and think before they regret it.  Society today doesn't stop and think before being rude and obnoxious to people who are overweight.  If you don't like what I look like, then it's easy, turn away, I'm not making you look at me.  I am who I am and that's the end of it.

I don't need unsolicited advice, or helpful comments, or plain ole rudeness to lose weight.  I don't eat take-out more than once a month, it's a treat for me.  I hate to go grocery shopping because I feel like I'm being judged on what I'm buying.  The same thing as going into Dairy Queen and ordering a cone on a really hot day, I feel like everyone is looking at me thinking "wow, she really needs to be eating that now doesn't she?".

Until you've walked a mile in an overweight person's shoes, then don't judge us, don't belittle us, don't make snide comments and if you're thinking it, then there's no need to say it in a carrying undertone you know will be heard.  I'm often hurt by the very people I hold closest to me by their insensitive remarks.  They just don't think before they speak.  I keep my mouth shut or I might lose it and I don't want to do that.  I know at least they have my best interests at heart.  But FFS, I'm an adult, I can look after myself and I don't need anyone to "help" me unless I ask for it.

'Nuff said.

Sweetie, I love ya but that's YOU being self-conscious and imaging what people are thinking. Chances are they really don't care what you're doing.


I know how self-conscious I am, it's a big problem with me, has been for years.  I try not to think about it, but it ain't always easy when you do hear people makes comments about it.  I just let them slide, and get the damned ice cream cone anyways, but then I manage to guilt myself out.  My mom had 40 yrs of French Catholic small town ideas to get me to the point where I feel guilty about everything.  She could be worse than a Jewish mother, including Gene Simmon's mom.  [:D]




TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 11:13:28 AM)

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I know how self-conscious I am, it's a big problem with me, has been for years.  I try not to think about it, but it ain't always easy when you do hear people makes comments about it.  I just let them slide, and get the damned ice cream cone anyways, but then I manage to guilt myself out.  My mom had 40 yrs of French Catholic small town ideas to get me to the point where I feel guilty about everything.  She could be worse than a Jewish mother, including Gene Simmon's mom. 


Well imma slap it out of you and replace it with good sense. Texting is but the first part of my plan.




Hisprettybaby -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 12:00:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

uumm...you were in an emergency room.

She saw you and thought maybe you were having a baby and that's why you were there. People in emergency rooms like to talk to each other about whatever they are there for because it helps to take the stress out of the reason they are there. She probably felt she could talk to  you. I don't see how that was rude or talking without thinking.

And this has obviously never happened to you, or you wouldn't feel the need to say the bolded part.




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 2:41:45 PM)

Amen to that HPB.  It's not so much the fact that she thought I was pregnant, it's that too many people nowadays can't always tell when someone is overweight or actually pregnant.  I fully realize she was stressed by her husband being in ER, and we were just talking, but to us who carry extra weight in the tummy area, it's a common occurrence and not very flattering.

As for Fire, you slap me Woman, Imma slap you right back.  And we've had a lot of fun texting, but also quite a few serious convos and you are truly a Dear Heart.[:)]




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 3:12:47 PM)

Tigger, your whole post gets kind of to the heart of the matter, doesn't it? What other physical characteristic do other people, even those who should know better, feel free to comment on. Most people would never make remarks to and about someone with a lot of freckles, for example, but they feel perfectly free to comment on other people's weight. It also seems acceptable to discriminate against the obese in jobs and things too. People who are ordinarily compassionate think it is OK to point out to others that they are obese. Like they don't already know. It is because obesity is seen as the person's fault.




TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 3:19:58 PM)

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As for Fire, you slap me Woman, Imma slap you right back.  And we've had a lot of fun texting, but also quite a few serious convos and you are truly a Dear Heart.


You know how I feel about you but for those who don't know I just want to say: you're fuckin awesome and anyone who fuckin DARES put you down will have me to deal with.




littlewonder -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 3:32:48 PM)

I used to have people come up to me and ask me about the fire I was in and start feeling sorry for me because of my skin condition so yes I do understand it. I never felt it was rude or anything of the other person. They simply did not know that I wasn't burned over 75% over my body but actually have a skin condition. I would just simply smile, thank them for their sympathy and tell them a little about my condition and they'd apologize, I'd smile, tell them it's alright, it happens and be on my way. Sure it was mortifying to me but why should that person feel bad about it? It's what they saw, it's what they thought.





tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 3:34:13 PM)

Can we chase people down in my car while we're getting lost if they're shouting insults at us?  (J/K folks, for those who need to be told that)[8D]




TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 3:37:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

Can we chase people down in my car while we're getting lost if they're shouting insults at us?  (J/K folks, for those who need to be told that)[8D]


Sounds like a whole lotta fun to me. But I think we should get directions from them first. Otherwise we'll stay lost.




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 5:47:11 PM)

Good idea, you get to co-pilot and I get to drive.




kdsub -> RE: Those that dislike over weight people, less tolerant in other areas? (10/29/2011 6:35:16 PM)

Has anyone else noticed how many people with a few pounds extra seldom reflect this fact in their avatars? As Seinfeld would say” Not that there is anything wrong with it”

The point I am trying to make with this observation is that overweight people are often self-conscious about their weight or size and often see slights and insults that don’t exist.

I figure if given a choice most people would like to just be average at worse and attractive to the majority at best. If they are not it is beyond their control for what ever reason and they either become comfortable with their weight or they suffer stress.

I think you can identify an asshole without taking time to see if they make snide comments about big people. Otherwise an asshole is an asshole no matter if they are commenting on overweight people or politics. Overweight is not required.

Butch




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