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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/8/2011 10:01:12 PM

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Actually Aynne, here in the US they prescribe the other date rape drug, GHB in the form of Xyrem for the treatment of cataplexy and EDS associated with narcolepsy. You have to take special classes and go through a lot of crap to get it, but some sleep specialists swear by it.

Excuse the slight threadjack

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/9/2011 9:25:51 AM

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well...the trazadone has been one hell of an experience and I don't think I'll be taking it again. I took it last night. It didn't really do much except make me feel really relaxed. I eventually fell asleep though but then I couldn't wake up this morning and I've slept the entire day, having to miss my cisco class tonight. When I did wake up I'm still feeling extremely sick...huge giant headache, weakness, feeling like I have a hangover.

Ya, that's how I felt after Trazadone :(

My Mom recommends this book: http://www.amazon.com/Insomniac-Gayle-Greene/dp/0520246306

Gayle Greene offers a uniquely comprehensive account of this devastating and little-understood condition. She has traveled the world in a quest for answers, interviewing neurologists, sleep researchers, doctors, psychotherapists, and insomniacs of all sorts. What comes of her extraordinary journey is an up-to-date account of what is known about insomnia, providing the information every insomniac needs to know to make intelligent choices among medications and therapies. Insomniac is at once a field guide through the hidden terrain inhabited by insomniacs and a book of consolations for anyone who has struggled with this affliction that has long been trivialized and neglected.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/9/2011 1:36:58 PM

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Thank you everyone for your advice. It was much appreciated and I will try to do more of the relaxation techniques but my dr just called in a new script for me...trazadone...ugh. My daughter was on this for awhile and it made her into a zombie. Sigh. I did ask the dr for a low dosage though because of my experiences with this with my daughter. I know this stuff will knock me out cold. I just don't know if I'm gonna like the way it makes me feel.

Yay fucking yay. Not sure which is worse....not sleeping at all or being a zombie.

Oh what I wouldn't give to be normal again without chemical dependency.

You need a sleep study and to see a pulmonary doctor.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:19:22 AM

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Just wondering how you're doing. Has anything improved?

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:26:40 AM

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well, I stopped taking the trazadone. That stuff just fucked me up. I talked to my dr and we came to an agreement that I can take three of the restoril until my next appt. with her. The restoril in that amount seems to be working ok. Maybe it just takes some time to get used to my system or something...I dunno. It still takes about 45 mins to kick in but I'm waking up at a normal hour without a headache, without feeling like I need to have caffeine to get through the day. It's been two days now like that so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Things have been good the last two days. I actually have energy and motivation to get things done. I don't wanna jinx it though lol.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:29:58 AM

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Don't blame you for not taking Trazadone any more. Flulike symptoms are definitely not an improvement. I'm glad that at least you're sleeping, that to me is at least half the battle. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it keeps working.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:46:51 AM

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You are lucky your doctor agreed with you taking the triple dose. My doctor recently put me on Ambien and it takes at least a double dose to work, and everything I take orally will take 45-60 minutes to work. Apparently people's bodies working that way isn't uncommon.

Good thing to do since the 3 seem to be working. STOP thinking about when they don't anymore! Biggest problem you have (as already discussed) is you are thinking too much, so while I'm half joking, it ain't gonna help when you go to bed and start with the, "what do I do when this stops working."

By the way, when you figure out HOW to shut your head up when you want to sleep, can you tell me how to do it?

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:49:56 AM

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By the way, when you figure out HOW to shut your head up when you want to sleep, can you tell me how to do it?

I literally shout out "STOP!" then force myself to think about random stuff. If that doesn't work I get out of bed til I'm too damn tired to do anything but sleep.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:52:19 AM

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yeah...she's pretty agreeable but I have an appointment with her next month and she knows I don't wanna try one thing after another.

I took ambien many years ago. You're lucky you don't get what happened to me...blackouts, temporary amnesia. That stuff was a nightmare for me.

I don't think I'll ever learn how to shut off my brain lol. Meditation works for a little while but after I stop I'm right back where I began lol.

But I admit that between the celexa and the restoril in the higher doses seems to be doing a fine job so far. I'm just hoping with baited breath that it continues to work.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 6:59:45 AM

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By the way, when you figure out HOW to shut your head up when you want to sleep, can you tell me how to do it?

I literally shout out "STOP!" then force myself to think about random stuff. If that doesn't work I get out of bed til I'm too damn tired to do anything but sleep.

First, thinking about random stuff is the problem. Second, getting "too damn tired" amounts to nearly 3 days without sleep.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 7:01:44 AM

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yeah...she's pretty agreeable but I have an appointment with her next month and she knows I don't wanna try one thing after another.

I took ambien many years ago. You're lucky you don't get what happened to me...blackouts, temporary amnesia. That stuff was a nightmare for me.

I don't think I'll ever learn how to shut off my brain lol. Meditation works for a little while but after I stop I'm right back where I began lol.

But I admit that between the celexa and the restoril in the higher doses seems to be doing a fine job so far. I'm just hoping with baited breath that it continues to work.

I had Ambien years ago, and still haven't had a problem. Although admittedly the 20mg puts me to sleep that a bomb could go off and I wouldn't notice, but I'm ok with that. Figure if the bomb killed me, I wouldn't wake up and have to deal with the fear, lol.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 7:03:49 AM

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What I mean is to just let your mind go where it does. Don't focus just let it go from one thing to another. Don't think about your day or anything that makes sense. I also find that thinking about stuff I like, in my case scenes from random ballets, calm me and I drift off in the middle of it.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 11:02:20 AM

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I completely understood what you were saying. While I don't want to speak for littlewonder, that "random thought" process is exactly what keeps us from sleeping.

I recommended right in the beginning of the thread that she try focusing on some pleasant thing. For you, random ballet scenes, for others lieing on the beach, watching a snow storm. Even then, those things will not always work.

I think you might not understand just how pervasive this type of insomnia can be. If a solution were as simple as you suggest, everyone would sleep well.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 11:19:29 AM

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I think you might not understand just how pervasive this type of insomnia can be. If a solution were as simple as you suggest, everyone would sleep well.

I understand it perfectly well thanks to work stress I've been there. FOR ME it worked so I threw it out there. I never made claims that it's that simple I just offered a solution which did work FOR ME.

ETA: actually the reason I threw it out there was you asked for a suggestion on how to turn off the brain that runs overtime. So I did. I never claimed it a cure all for insomnia, just as something that helps me switch off my brain.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 11:26:47 AM

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And if you actually read the thread, I made your suggestion on like the first page. Insomnia due to work stress is a temporary issue, and actually pretty easy comparatively to deal with.

Ongoing insomnia not so much. What I said to lw was actually a joke. Perhaps you took your head out of your ass, you would have figured it out.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 11:29:18 AM

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I read it, I just didn't memorize it. Frankly I'm not that fascinated with your posts.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/12/2011 3:22:04 PM

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You can't be. You are too busy being fascinated with yourself.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/13/2011 6:24:27 PM

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I can't believe Aswad lives somewhere that dispenses roofies for sleep. There is a reason they don't prescribe what he takes in the US, it became the date rape drug. I bet he sleeps like a baby though. Damn. Jealous.

Sleeps like a baby, then wakes like a new man.

That said, outlawing it is theater. It has never been a problem in terms of date rape, and perspective dictates that even if it were, we would still have to ban alcohol before even considering prescription drugs. It's like launching a campaign to get rid of water intoxication problems, or securing pedestrians against people in wheelchairs. Maybe we should build a dome to stop people from getting hit by meteorites, while we're at it. Banning it has no effect on anyone but legitimate users of the drug, who are now given inferior treatment a lot of the time, on the altar of media fact checking failures and politicians trying to look good. Benadryl, Thorazine, Nozinan and Truxal would be topping the list if they were concerned with efficiency. Alcohol if they were at all concerned with frequency. Education if they were concerned about the occurence of date rape itself, rather than the bad press.

Up here, it can still be prescribed, but it would be easier to get any two of Xyrem, Fentanyl, Desoxyn and Marinol, just to grab a few examples. That it's even a concern is ludicrous, and a consequence of hysteria and willful ignorance. For that matter, I don't think I've ever heard of any drug that's harder to get prescribed than to obtain illicitly, even in its original packaging, but that may just be up here. If I wanted to abuse it, I could have a few thousand tabs in my living room this evening, and I actually don't have the best connections for that sort of thing.

I take the more expensive, time consuming, laborious route... getting it legally, with supervision.

Referring to it as a date rape drug just reinforces the FUD and the BS.

Now, Xyrem, that could work as one. But it's still rare.

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P.S.: For a simulated date rape (play), I would just slip a pinch of salt in there and let placebo and alcohol do the rest.

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RE: Restoril reviews/hints/tips - 11/15/2011 12:02:33 PM

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I had major problems sleeping so I did go to the doctor took restoril to help. This did not shut my mind off. However, I relaxed me very well, my mind would not shut down and I had enough of this. Finally, I started spelling sleep over and over until I did fall asleep. Of course after years the 7.5 of restoril stopped working very well, so it was 15 for me then. I was very, very relaxed, and never had to spell sleep to myself again, because I had already learned how to shut my mind off at bed, because it had become a habit.

I am very sorry that you are having this problem, I would be so sleepy the next day that I would fall asleep on my way to work with somen one else driving of course. Some of that however, was caused by my depression.

What I am suggestion is that you give yourself a boring thing to do so that you will fall asleep.

I'm also wondering if you may have sleep apnea? As well, do you wake up constantly and it feels like you are not sleeping? This can often happen as well, and it feels like no sleep as well.

Restoril stopped working for me after years. I'm now on seroquel which helps me alot. I wake up through the night and will discuss this with my dr. as well.

Because of childhood things I do sleep with my TV on and it is on a timer I set and as soon as I find some thing I really want to what, I fall asleep lol.

I really hope some of this helps.

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