RichardAS
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ORIGINAL: Clickofheels Posed by Kaliko: Is Loriellen married? I was wondering that myself, Kaliko...or even if they have been spouses at some point. I seems there are a whole lot of circumstances not posted here as well. On the OTHER HAND, I respect people's right to privacy... as well as their not wishing to be shredded into little pieces and thrown to the "lions in the judgement den" in the forums on this site! Fare thee well, RichardAS...fare thee well. Respectfully, Clickofheels No, loriellen is not married, nor has she ever been. I've been married, though. Yes, there are a whole lot of private circumstances not posted here. These are private to loriellen and I am not going to go into them in a public forum. Also, I am not too happy about being thrown in the "lion's den of judgement." No person here knows enough to make those judgements because there is a whole lot more not posted here. To me that seems obvious, but I guess not to everyone. It feels like people are examining the very worst of possibilities. I will say that my introduction was a combination of an introduction and something like a journal post. It just sort of happened that way as I started to reflect on things, but I stand by what I have written, write, and will write, because it is, after all, all true. Somehow, people should be able to find enough trust that I am not a bad person conniving secretly to do stupid or harmful things things to anyone. Thank-you Clickofheels for being willing to look a little more deeply - and that there are things a little more deeply going on. quote:
ORIGINAL: lizi Welcome back. Honestly the two of you deserve each other and seem to be a good fit. This is way more drama than I could ever stomach, I like things open, honest, and low key, with good communication. Any woman reading your post here is going to have second thoughts about what you have to offer and what your intentions are here. No; honestly, the only question is whether loriellen deserves me. Whether she deserves the patience and care I give her. Yes, she has problems of various types; but does that mean she doesn't deserve my love and care? Is there any relationship that does not need some amount of nurturing? I would certainly like things to be that easy as you say, but I expect to have to do work in any relationship I might get involved in. The only other question is; how much work is too much work? ... and only I can answer that question for myself. If I'm willing to work harder than you, is this some derogatory statement against me? I think not. If I am undertaking something that is difficult, I can only think that makes a positive statement about me. What if no-one wanted anything to do with any of your problems through-out your life? What if nobody ever cared enough? Perhaps you might be so fortunate to have a man who does not want to give up. If you think that very quality makes a bad statement about me to others, I think the opposite. The only thing that matters is that I believe and feel she deserves my love and care, and that, if there is a way, I will find it. There may end up being no way; but until I know that for certain, I will not give up on her. I will need to hear that from her. Not from you or anyone else. Yes, it's far more drama than I would want to ask for. What I've said here isn't all of it; there's more than I'm going to say and if your stomach is already turning - well, mine's worse. The drama is not a good fit; I don't like it, enjoy it, or want it in my life. It's taking a toll on me. It can be draining. Obviously I would like the most easy and open relationship possible; I'm trying to create that relationship. Communication is not a problem I'm having; she's having that problem. But I feel strongly that there is an imminent breakthrough coming. The main question with this is whether that breakthrough will have a lasting effect or whether she will revert back. quote:
ORIGINAL: Kaliko It's not a judgment. It's a question. The post by kizi above yours is the "lion's den of judgementality," Kaliko. Your simple question of marital status is just that - a simple question. No, loriellen is not nor has been married. quote:
ORIGINAL: RichardAS To me, everything seems very simple; we move in together and live happily ever after. That's really as basic as I see it; completely that easy and effortless. But loriellen requires more patience and understanding, and I am simply willing to give that to her. Her personal difficulties and fears I am not going to go into, but they are there and if I am serious about her then I will stay with her to work through those fears. That is what I consider committment. I consider that a relationship with anyone will bring along a certain amount of emotional difficulties, and I consider that par for the course of having a committed relationship. quote:
ORIGINAL: outhere69 Hi Richard... "Levity" means "light-heartedness". I'm just wondering why you are going around for a third try. Both of you are getting older and still have the same issues. Hi outhere69 I'm not sure why you're defining "levity" to me; but I'll assume you mean well. Perhaps you can let me know. I can understand your question. We do not have the same issues; if that were so I would have run from this. I can say that I have grown and evolved a bit in the ensuing 20 years, and so has loriellen. There are some important issues loriellen still has to deal with, but I think she is in a place where she is now much more able to deal with them. I hope that she will be able to. I know what they are and I can guide her through them if she can manage her own fears. I met loriellen 20 years ago and I fell in love with her. That love doesn't simply evaporate or disappear. Not with me, at least. What evoked that love is still true. The problems that existed back then no longer exist - and that is very hopeful. I'm going to give it my best.
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