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No problem Lilly, but looks like you could probably talk to Dusky, since she is already using it.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 11:07:53 AM

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For the relationship portion of dealing with this (as with most things) communication is the key. Knowing there is a way to deal with the triggers effectively and letting him know is almost the only real start there is. It sounds like he isn't running scared, but only time will tell, right? You really won't know anything until/if something triggers you in his presence and how he reacts. I know that is a sucky answer/thought, but you you know what they say..."talk is cheap."

I don't mean he is blowing smoke up your ass, so I hope you aren't taking it that way. More a matter of people can always think/say how they would react to something but until it actually happens you don't know.

Kind of like making an escape plan in case of fire or saying what you would do if it happened. Plan away, but when the heat of those flames hit you and the smoke blinds you, that plan might not mean much.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 11:15:47 AM

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I've had PTSD for most of my life-- learning what the triggers are...and what helps me deal with it when it happens...have been a big part of it for me. Once I finally learned how to take care of myself when it happens, I had to educate my partner so that she would understand what the triggers are/were (so that she wouldn't feel guilty about it) and what I needed to do when it happened....and what she could do to help (or not do). I tried hypnosis but was not very responsive/open to it. Good luck--I hope things work out for you both

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 12:36:34 PM

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as a person that has more than just PTSD i would say if He wants to stay and help you fight through it HE is your best support system you have to get through this along with your therapist and med docs.

I have PTSD, Bipolar, major depressive disorder, Generalized anxiety, borderline Personality disorder, and Intermittent Explosive Disorder. I have found that not only does the med i'm on now treat my bipolar Mania & depression episodes, but it also treats my borderline personality disorder and major depressive disorder. I also have found through research that one of the meds that i plan to use as a PRN after i am done with my pregnancy works for my Borderline personality disorder, Both parts of my bipolar, and my major depressive disorder. I also found that another med that i will be taking 3 times a day after the pregnancy treats my Bipolar mania and my intermittent explosive disorder. The only med that i will be playing experimentation with after my pregnancy is getting 2 benzodiazapines to work for my generalized anxiety disorder.

i found all this out during my most recent mental health hospitalization and am actually proud that i did this because if i didnt have my husbands support there i may have not ever made it to this point. I hope that you, OP, can cherish Him as a support system and pull him closer when you feel the PTSD striking instead of pushing him away because you never know what could result from having him there.

The meds that i am refering to are Seroquel XR, right now im at 400 mg and it is the safest one for me to take during my pregnancy, Zyprexa Zytus, as a PRN, Tegretol, 3 times a day at 100/dose, and then 2 of the following benzos that i have to experiment with: Klonopin, Xanax, Ativan, Valium, Librium, and Tranxene.

I will be researching the benzos on webMD to work on finding the 2 that i want to try.

BTW if you know your disorder(s) look at webMD for meds that would possibly work and also look for other things and discuss with your med Doc and Therapist because the more informed you are and the more you find other things that will help your treatment and the more you actively participate in your treatment the Better off you will end up being.

I wish you well and hope that this information helps. Feel free to CMail me and ill try to give you the information that i have if you need it.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 12:40:22 PM

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I worry about the fact that some of my flashbacks have turned violent in nature which is my biggest issue with my kids and him. I have explained this to him and I guess my best option is to just trust that he will react the way that I have told him works best, and that will keep him out of harm's way.

are you afraid you're going to lash out at him, or that he's going to do something to your kids?

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 12:56:18 PM

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lilly i think what she is saying there and i know from my flashback blackout breakdowns i have had is that shes worried that she is going to lash out at him or the UMs and that she wants him there to protect the UMs and hopes that with telling him how best to react to her will help reduce her lashing out at both the UMs and Him.

I know thats how i am so thats what i am infering by what i read in her quoted post you have in your post.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 4:51:27 PM

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For the relationship portion of dealing with this (as with most things) communication is the key. Knowing there is a way to deal with the triggers effectively and letting him know is almost the only real start there is. It sounds like he isn't running scared, but only time will tell, right? You really won't know anything until/if something triggers you in his presence and how he reacts. I know that is a sucky answer/thought, but you you know what they say..."talk is cheap."

I don't mean he is blowing smoke up your ass, so I hope you aren't taking it that way. More a matter of people can always think/say how they would react to something but until it actually happens you don't know.

Kind of like making an escape plan in case of fire or saying what you would do if it happened. Plan away, but when the heat of those flames hit you and the smoke blinds you, that plan might not mean much.

Exactly Lafayette, a person really doesn't know until it happens and that is why I gave him as much information as possible on this, but even that won't make him understand until he actually sees it first hand.

From what I can tell by reading about others (not just on here) who have PTSD I trigger in a different way. It doesn't take something to set me off each time. What happens is there is a trigger, and then I will have flashbacks and nightmares until I find what triggered it and am able to deal with it, which is why I try to keep my mind very busy when the kids are around. This seems to make it harder for there to be any intrusions, well at least it worked last time and has so far this week.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 4:55:53 PM

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Thank you hausboy.

Hypnosis is on the list of possibilities. I know you said you weren't very reponsive to it...do you think that was because you didn't trust the hypnotist? That is one area where my doubts about hypnosis comes in, I think I would have a hard time finding a hypnotist that I really trust.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 5:04:02 PM

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Thank you Emeralds

I do know all of my conditions and have researched the meds. I have been on so many different combinations of meds that I lost count. Finally I was diagnosed as 'Treatment Intolerant'. To be honest, I think the psychiatrists in town have my name at the top of their 'blackball' list, but seriously I have started doing more research on herbal remedies since the meds have not helped.

If you have any information on herbs, that would be wonderful!

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 5:06:24 PM

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I worry about the fact that some of my flashbacks have turned violent in nature which is my biggest issue with my kids and him. I have explained this to him and I guess my best option is to just trust that he will react the way that I have told him works best, and that will keep him out of harm's way.

are you afraid you're going to lash out at him, or that he's going to do something to your kids?

Yes I'm afraid that I will lash out at him or my kids. Oh hell no! He would never do anything to to my kids other than protect them. Edited to add: he would try to protect him when he is here, but also try to be there for them if they need to talk about what is going on.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 5:11:00 PM

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You're right Emeralds! Well mostly. We live in different towns so he isn't here on a daily basis to help look out for the kids, but I have notified my youngest one's dad about what is going on and he knows what would need to be done if my son contacts him. I also explained things to my oldest so that she will know what to do as well. But I also know there is no guarantee of how things will go, I can only explain how it's been in the past and hope for the best.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 5:14:54 PM

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IMHO find one that is your same gender because i had a male that was supposto be an anger management therapist used hypnosis on me and i remember from the back of my mind seeing him commit sexual acts with me so yea i dont plan on going that route ever again for anything any time soon. also triggers dont have to be someone doing something it can be anything from something one of your five senses picks up all the way to someone that resembles the purpotrator in the trauma. thats why i have some problems because unless i am in a good state of mind when i go off kilter and its around winter time or a time of the year that my hubby keeps his facial hair i have issues every time i go off kilter even if i am hearing his voice because the red facial hair reminds me of my ex stepfather UNFORTUNATELY but i have less episodes as i stay balanced better like i am now.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 5:20:04 PM

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If you have any information on herbs, that would be wonderful!

it takes some manipulating but webMD has info on herbal treatments. I know of a few related to depression but you may have already went that route and i know what its like sometimes like i did just take one class of meds at a time like the MAOI anti depressants untill you can pretty much factor those out and keep going one at a time with patients and you might find a med that way. thats how i partially found mine. i did it by factoring what meds i was taking with what symptoms i wasnt exeriencing and thats how i found some of the meds LOL.

as far as herbal i know of st johns wort, skull cap, and valarian root as far as depressants go. like i said manipulate and search on WebMD and you can find a shit ton list of herbals.

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RE: PTSD - 11/12/2011 5:37:03 PM

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also triggers dont have to be someone doing something it can be anything from something one of your five senses picks up all the way to someone that resembles the purpotrator in the trauma. thats why i have some problems because unless i am in a good state of mind when i go off kilter and its around winter time or a time of the year that my hubby keeps his facial hair i have issues every time i go off kilter even if i am hearing his voice because the red facial hair reminds me of my ex stepfather UNFORTUNATELY but i have less episodes as i stay balanced better like i am now.

Yes I know this, I have the facial hair trigger as well, well beards anyway, and the smell of beer or chewing tobacco sets me off as well. That just reminded me...I can't remember if I warned Win about the beer one, I'll have to check. I have noticed however that I have gotten much better with the beard trigger, must have something to do with the fact that my therapist has one and I trust him 100%.
edited to add: I wasn't aware that webmd also dealt with herbs, jsut shows how observant I am

Thanks!

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 4:51:36 AM

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I know he lives out of town, but if he can make it in during the week, have him come in and meet your therapist and learn first hand what to look out for and what to do.

My daughter's on Seroquel XR and Lamictal for bipolar disorder and severe anxiety disorder. Amazing meds that have given her back her life.

Myself, I was already on Zoloft years ago when I first had a flashback. The psychiatrist raised the dosage and that seemed to stop them.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 6:00:56 AM

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also triggers dont have to be someone doing something it can be anything from something one of your five senses picks up all the way to someone that resembles the purpotrator in the trauma. thats why i have some problems because unless i am in a good state of mind when i go off kilter and its around winter time or a time of the year that my hubby keeps his facial hair i have issues every time i go off kilter even if i am hearing his voice because the red facial hair reminds me of my ex stepfather UNFORTUNATELY but i have less episodes as i stay balanced better like i am now.

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I can't remember if I warned Win about the beer one, I'll have to check. I have noticed however that I have gotten much better with the beard trigger, must have something to do with the fact that my therapist has one and I trust him 100%.
edited to add: I wasn't aware that webmd also dealt with herbs, jsut shows how observant I am Thanks!

im glad to help you think of things that you might not have told Him which is good. i find the therapist thing odd but it could be because of the color of the beard.
yea webmd has hidden somewhere the herb things i just cant remember right now how i found it.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 6:06:59 AM

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desFIP im glad to hear that both you and your daughter are on meds that have balanced you and gave your life back to ya. i am just now reaching that point though im going to be on a rough road come another 5 mos or so when i get ready to have the UM that im carrying because my doc and i decided that weening me off my seroquel XR which is the only one im on right now will help with the withdrawl side effects that the baby would have. after that i plan on going on as many of the best helping me function meds that i can with me breast feeding for about the first 6 mos then ill transition the UM to bottles for the last 6 mos of the first year so that i can switch the UM to baby foods. Once i get the UM off of breast feading directly im going to pump off good milk when i can and make bottles with it so that i can go on all meds that will be good for me

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 8:06:42 AM

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Thank you Des..

My therapist will meet with him at any point, it doesn't have to be during the work week. Before this has popped up I had already expressed to my therapist and Win that I would like them to meet, so it's just a matter of getting the timing in and the financial ability.

I'm glad you and your daughter have found meds that work for you.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 8:13:40 AM

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Oh believe me, the theapist and beard thing didn't happen overnight. I had trouble finding a therapist that I could trust for myself, but he had been the family therapist and worked wonders with my kids. I did have trouble for the first year or so that he was the family therapist, but because I wanted and needed him as part of my 'team' I made it work. I think it was because the good that I sensed in him overpowered the beard enough to give me the chance to build the trust. Probably kind of a lame explanation but there are alot of things that I simply have no concrete answers for so I just do my best.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 8:34:48 AM

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sounds about right because aside from my hubbys beard when he shaved it off and i was able for a long period of time to see him as him with out something that was keeping me from seeing him as himself and not as another person that had a bad effect on my life it was hard, but now with all my meds starting to align and with him understanding my episodes and such he has been a wonderful addition in my life for the past 2 years. now its just a matter of keeping him plyable to get along with my family if i can quit having episodes that get me pissed at my family because i feel like i am having to pick sides GRRRRRR.

all will be better soon. because i know one thing for sure that my bro wants to see his niece or nephew in person and has already expressed that so the family meeting thing is inevitable.

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