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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 2:25:48 PM   
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Yes, families can always present issues, but it's sometimes surprising what a new baby can do to bring the harmony.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 3:41:29 PM   
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Thank you hausboy.

Hypnosis is on the list of possibilities. I know you said you weren't very reponsive to it...do you think that was because you didn't trust the hypnotist? That is one area where my doubts about hypnosis comes in, I think I would have a hard time finding a hypnotist that I really trust.


Perhaps both.  I didn't like the therapist very much, and wasn't very receptive to being hypnotized.

It took me a long time to finally realize/figure out what my triggers were.  My flashbacks/regressive moments used to just "happen" and then I started writing down the details--when, where, what was going on etc. and before long, I saw a very clear pattern and found the triggers.  Now I know what to avoid....and for those cases when I can't, I know what to do to help myself through it.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 4:31:06 PM   
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hausboy,
I am glad you have found your triggers and ways to help yourself through. Sometimes I find myself just wishing that meds could make it all better, even while knowing the whole time that would never be possible.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 4:42:47 PM   
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hausboy,
I am glad you have found your triggers and ways to help yourself through. Sometimes I find myself just wishing that meds could make it all better, even while knowing the whole time that would never be possible.


good luck to you--I hope you are able to get some help with whatever it is you're dealing with.

It doesn't always get easier, but it does get different.

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RE: PTSD - 11/13/2011 4:56:04 PM   
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Thank you hausboy and good luck to you too.

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RE: PTSD - 11/14/2011 8:53:37 AM   
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i will be working on the stuff for you as i can winspirtsbaby cuz im going to be soon using the library interwebz to do it LOL *stupid backed up unaffordable gotta get caught up some time phone bill.* anyway ill see what i can do.

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RE: PTSD - 11/14/2011 9:02:21 AM   
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~FR~
Thanks Emerald, as I said, no rush....school first!

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RE: PTSD - 11/14/2011 5:11:46 PM   
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To the OP: Learn skills to stay in the present. When you feel like pushing him away you are either in the past or future. We live in neither. You must learn mindfulness skills to keep you focused and centered. Those skills can be self-taught but should be taught by a professional. In the meantime...I would suggest thinking about the one thing that keeps you grounded. The more you become aware the more you can stop yourself from pushing.


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RE: PTSD - 11/14/2011 6:42:36 PM   
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Thank you orchid, my therapist and I are actually working on that right now.

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RE: PTSD - 11/15/2011 6:19:41 AM   
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Some antidepressants can help with PTSD symptoms. For me a beta blocker would interrupt the feedback loop between mind and body and with the adrenaline blocked it would help stave off panic attacks. There are other medications used successfully for PTSD.

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is being found to be quite effective in the treatment and management of PTSD.

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RE: PTSD - 11/15/2011 7:36:13 AM   
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I do know all of my conditions and have researched the meds. I have been on so many different combinations of meds that I lost count. Finally I was diagnosed as 'Treatment Intolerant'. To be honest, I think the psychiatrists in town have my name at the top of their 'blackball' list, but seriously I have started doing more research on herbal remedies since the meds have not helped.

If you have any information on herbs, that would be wonderful!


When my body is in good shape, so is my mind. Are you eating and sleeping properly, and exercising?

Do breathing exercises help you manage the panic?

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RE: PTSD - 11/15/2011 1:54:10 PM   
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Thank you angelika.

I've been on numerous medications already and have been diagnosed as treatment intolerant in med department. My therapist's models are humanistic and cognitive behavioral so I'm good in that department. Emeralds is currently looking into different med combo maybe with herbs and meds that I can ask the doctor about.

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RE: PTSD - 11/15/2011 1:59:34 PM   
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kalikshama,
My diet is healthy and I excersise regularly. I have a sleep disorder so my sleep is marginal.

Deep breathing helps in other types of anxiety situations but not in this one. I think that is because in most other situations I can feel an attack come on, but with this I don't really have any warning. The flashbacks happen if my mind is not otherwise occupied so I do my best to keep it occupied when I'm not in a place that I can deal with them, i.e. when I'm with my therapist.

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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 9:16:22 AM   
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It is pretty timely for  me to read this thread tonight as I just sent an email to my Dominant about my counseling session with  my psychologist earlier this evening.

The event/s that triggered my  PTSD was a car accident (plus about 5 others in the past) however most of my psych's patients have a history of abuse or were in combat etc.   For this reason, I do  not fit into  any of the group programs the hospital runs so am having individual counseling - only on session two so far.

Tonight in our session my psych was explaining  that instead of waiting for a threat to appear, my fight or flight reflex kicks in as soon as I have some sort of stress (which can be something such as hearing a car brake, being in or seeing a car, running out of milk - yes honestly ...so there doesn't seem to be a real pattern to it all yet).  I am only 4 months post-trauma so I have a lot to learn about it  all still.

My psych decided to use an example of  what in the past would be seen as a stress but now is seen as a threat by  me so my anxiety escalates and forgetting my initial trauma for a moment, he used an example of a car accident (jeeze, great ha  ha).  I immediately disassociated for a short time and was able to tell him when I came back that this had hapened as soon as he mentioned his example.  Interestingly, my psych said that he noticed a change in my eyes as soon as I started to disassociate and suddenly realised what had caused it.  It was helpful for him as he got to see exactly what happens to me when I am triggered, which is different to when I feel stressed which causes me to feel extremely anxious, to feel terror, sweat, feel faint etc.

For the panic related symptoms we are going to use CBT techhniques - deep breathing, maybe EMDR, exercise (from tomorrow I am to go for short walks around the block - he wants me to walk at my  normal pace to one lamp-post and then walk very fast to the next lamp-post, then walk normally again then speed up and so on, for about 15 minutes initially.  What this will do is show  me how I can take control of my heart rate through exercise rather than it only being controlled by my panic attacks.  The theory is that I will learn to control my heart rate and remember that I can change it myself).

For the times when I am triggered and disassociate, all of the CBT techniques in the world wont help as I am not able to process anything in my brain at that moment of being triggered.  It literally happened in the blink  of an eye tonight at the clinic so there is no time for me to actually start using any of my strategies.  Instead what they do is work on desensitisation - attempts to make the original trauma less traumatic I guess you could say.

For me, this is going to involve me bringing in some photos of my car after the accident and I am already terrified about doing this as I avoid looking at them because they  upset me so much. For people with childhood trauma it may involve taking them back to a time when they  were younger but showing them that they are in a safe place at the same time.  I have done something similar with my clients and whilst it can be a bit scary as you have no way of knowing how a client will react when taken back to the events or something which reminds them of those events, it can be amazingly effective and make a difference in one or two sessions.

Damn, I am babbling but it may  be that desensitisation is  the way  for you to go as well with the triggering and disassociation.

As to my relationship with  D, it is still very new and I hadn't actually got my PTSD diagnosis confirmed when we first started dating but I had a very strong feeling that this was what I was experiencing and I expplained all of this to  D.  We were living in the same place when we started dating and he knew how  much  I was struggling with  my day to day life and as soon as my shrink suggested I return home to my  family so that I could focus on counseling and recovery, D totally supported this even though it would mean we were separated by distance for a few months.

I also gave him the choice of opting out and he chose not to and said that we were in this together which was amazing for me. I journal for him most days (though there is no pressure on me if I don't do it and I  have to use my own judgement about how I am feeling each day) and I write a lot to him about how  my days are, symptoms,, triggers, my psych appointments etc.  I  am better at writing things rather than talking so he will read this and then ask questions or bring up anything he is unsure about or wants to know  more  about.

I tell him everything about this as it is such a huge part of  my life at the moment.

To  ground someone that has disassociated these are a couple of techniques I have used in the past with people  -  I  would get their significant other in and we would set up a plan of  some sort.  My client would tell us the signs that they are disassociating eg.  stop  talking, far away look in eyes/glazed,  tears, talking as if living that past event etc and often their partner/family member coud add in a few other signs.  based on the type of past trauma we would then set up  some grounding  strategies eg, for someone who was traumatised by anger I  would never suggest that someone raise their voice to them in an attempt to  bring them back.

Something the partner might do is gently repeat their name, saying something like - Jenny, you are safe, Jenny can you  hear me, Jenny it is ok and repeating these.  Only ask questions that they can nod or  shake their head to - eg. Jenny can you  hear me.   They might also touch an agreed upon place on their body eg. their arm or wrist, stroking it or pinching or tapping, whatever has been previously agreed upon as the technique, again to get the person back into their body.

Keep doing this until they  are back in the moment.  Give them time to adjust,  it can take minutes or longer based on how  long and how deeply they disassociated so don't ask them too  many questions or talk too  much, just stay beside them.

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It doesn't always get easier, but it does get different.



Hausboy I laughed when I read this comment of yours as it is so true.  My triggers change and my reactions change,  it is like having this wriggly worm and just when I  think I  have caught it, it squirms away again.


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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 10:27:59 AM   
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Excellent, thoughtful and helpful post, wandersalone!

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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 11:19:21 AM   
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Thank you very  much Duskypearls 

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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 12:09:35 PM   
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Thank you wanders...

Win and I are in daily contact on the phone and I fill him in on alot of things via email. For now, my journal is kept to myself because for me it is a way to try to piece together certain events or reasons for the way I felt at a certain point during the day. Unfortunately, it served as a trigger the other day, so I have put it on hold until I talk to my therapist tomorrow.

I have explained to Win that we will need to discuss how to center me when I disassociate fairly soon because we are planning an extended visit in the near future and we have not seen each other since I started having these problems. I have already mentioned to him that he should not touch me when I am in that state because I have been known to become violent. I have actually asked him to rehearse with me a few times just in case.

I have already done the back to childhood thing and have worked on the safety issues there. Where my problem lies now is mostly in irrational and self defeating thoughts and feelings that I have been having, therefore we are working more on the cognitive end of things. I'm hoping that it will not require another 'trip' to the past, but I am preparing for that to be the case.

I had my PTSD diagnosis when Win and I got together, I'm sure I mentioned it to him, but I probably just mentioned more in passing because I had convinced myself that all was well and I was 'cured'! So, when this came up I had to work through the denial, and that wasn't easy.

I'm not going to pretend to know your education, but by the sounds of it you are somewhere in the psychology field. This kinda makes me feel a little better, because everytime I start having issues, I start questioning where I'm going with my field of study. I sometimes look at myself and think "With all these issues going on, do you really think you can become a competent therapist"? So I really thank you for your insightful post.

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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 2:44:43 PM   
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My pleasure, to be sure.

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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 2:47:09 PM   
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Thank you wanders...

Win and I are in daily contact on the phone and I fill him in on alot of things via email. For now, my journal is kept to myself because for me it is a way to try to piece together certain events or reasons for the way I felt at a certain point during the day. Unfortunately, it served as a trigger the other day, so I have put it on hold until I talk to my therapist tomorrow.

I have explained to Win that we will need to discuss how to center me when I disassociate fairly soon because we are planning an extended visit in the near future and we have not seen each other since I started having these problems. I have already mentioned to him that he should not touch me when I am in that state because I have been known to become violent. I have actually asked him to rehearse with me a few times just in case.

I have already done the back to childhood thing and have worked on the safety issues there. Where my problem lies now is mostly in irrational and self defeating thoughts and feelings that I have been having, therefore we are working more on the cognitive end of things. I'm hoping that it will not require another 'trip' to the past, but I am preparing for that to be the case.

I had my PTSD diagnosis when Win and I got together, I'm sure I mentioned it to him, but I probably just mentioned more in passing because I had convinced myself that all was well and I was 'cured'! So, when this came up I had to work through the denial, and that wasn't easy.

I'm not going to pretend to know your education, but by the sounds of it you are somewhere in the psychology field. This kinda makes me feel a little better, because everytime I start having issues, I start questioning where I'm going with my field of study. I sometimes look at myself and think "With all these issues going on, do you really think you can become a competent therapist"? So I really thank you for your insightful post.


Wounded healers often make the best healers. They benefit from having had first-hand experience in the issue, and as a result, hopefully will bring more compassion/insights into the solution.

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RE: PTSD - 11/16/2011 5:19:10 PM   
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Wounded healers often make the best healers. They benefit from having had first-hand experience in the issue, and as a result, hopefully will bring more compassion/insights into the solution.


That's what I keep telling myself, maybe it will sink in before I actually get out there in the field.

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