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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:55:30 PM

Fawne

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Welcome Bugui and ElizabethDVall!
A curious and popular thread.

This sassy filly tends to tease and snap but will play nice today.
Agreed!
-Good manners do make for better communication.
- Communication is most important.
- Rudeness is just too popular.

Would you agree..?
- That it may be embarrassing and less than civil for a gentleman to tattle?

Kindly, fawne

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:56:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: zumala

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: Bugei
No introduction at all, just a bit of advice to an embarrassing Essex girl in pink. For the UK to USA translation please ask in private because I have been flamed for answering such questions here.

Are you sure that "embarrassing Essex girl" is not a tautology?

You are asking him if the girl in question is a redundancy... Logically looking at your selection of "embarrassing Essex girl", you are insulting the girl by saying that since she is female, she must be embarrassing. Or that she is embarrassing because she's from Essex. Given your previous insults regarding the female intellect and emotional stability, the former is more likely. Which means that you are still insulting the female sex. And this time the girl in question hasn't even said a word to you. So much for maturity and manners on your part, sir.

zuma

Whilst it is perfectly possible that you may neither have known the cultural reference involved nor somehow been able to access Google to look up the meaning and implication of the term "Essex girl", one might be minded to suspect you had wilfully misinterpreted my comment as some insult on wiminkind.

The following references may help:

http://snipurl.com/r9xz
http://snipurl.com/r9y0
http://snipurl.com/r9y1
http://snipurl.com/r9y2
http://snipurl.com/r9y3

Once you have read those, you may begin to understand.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:57:39 PM

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I hate to break this news to you but you just don't seem to get it. The tone of this thread is apparent and by your own fault you and your subby boy are not going to be very welcomed here. The bigger picture is this, you have flamed members who are very respected and who are admired for their good character on most all BDSM WWW sites, effectively cutting off your nose to spite your face. You will find it very hard to have any contact in this community as well as others due to your ridiculous behavior. From time to time we get an American poster that I am ashamed of and extend my apologies to those of other nations that get offended by their posts. You have represented your country in such a way that some "Noble" person of your country has their work cut out apologizing for the blemish you are leaving on their fine country. Soon it will dawn on you that your posts are going unanswered and I will point out that it is because of the nifty little block feature that the domain host had the foresight to make available. Your posts are no officially dead space and I think it is a "Capital" idea.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:59:36 PM

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Thank you for your welcome fawne,

I'd totaly agree with what you under certain cercumstances.

Nice to meet you

Elizabeth / o^^

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:01:24 PM

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You said :-

"First, I am not a girl, "

I must apologise Sir .

"I'm a grandmother and I've earned every one of my gray hairs so you can save your condescending remarks for the 25 year old neophytes whom you like to intimidate."

I do not give advice to those I intimidate.

"Second, no, you never answered how it is that you believe that it's quite all right to post someone private email to a public forum. "

Why is an abusive impolite response sacrosanct? Who made this one of the ten?

"In my book, that makes you a liar."

Your book has no relevance to any one but you.

"How's that for a limited set of values?"

One day you may understand but please don't hold your breath.

"If you believe that ones private email and respecting their private email falls under the category of 'limited values' there is nothing more I wish to say to you as you obviously live in some other universe than the one which I inhabit."

Yes exactly.

"I don't know what you call your universe but I call mine 'reality"

I am sure you do but my reality is thankfully not yours.

."You have exposed yourself to my satisfaction and I have no further use for you. You are dismissed, little boy."

Celeste

I am glad you are satisfied. Lets hope we can get back to the reality of the point of this debate and not your narrow view of life.

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Ok, so I've read through most of this thread and I realize it has become a clash of personalities...and that's cool.
Still, I was wondering if this was supposed to be sarcasm. witty? Was much thought actually put into this or was it just an improvisational, off-the-top-of your-head response? Because as either sarcasm, insult or wit...it really does need some work.

Oh...and one thing which I have found very irritating through out this post is your insistence of using 'to' for 'too'...once I can understand but you are consistently misusing this word; if you are going to attempt to show us how intellectually superior you are, please understand simple semantics.

C

edited to deal with my lack of typing skills.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:05:39 PM

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:05:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: zumala
Given the nature of all his other posts on this thread, do you honestly think he was intending friendly banter? There's still the matter of the fact that the person being joked about isn't even part of this conversation to my knowledge.

That aside, I'll file your comment about Essex away somewhere. I've not yet been able to visit the UK, but I would like to eventually.

zuma

I do hope you feel better next week.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:10:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bugei

Bugei Master of slave o^^

Are you quite sure that is not an oxymoron?

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:13:06 PM

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ok, Wulf"chyld", may I congratulate you, on your name... the latter part well deserved.
Firstly, you and I know, Bugei is not my subbieboy. Now I would consider this a chyld ish attempt at humour, or perhaps to annoy us, which if course, won't work as we are mearly having a laugh here. I am amused at your pathetic attempts however.

If you read the whole thread, Bugei, and I with a few exceptions have responded as appropriate. I myself have lowered my normal tone and responded as some responded to me. A guilt I have to confess to yes. To those who have responded in a genteel manner, have had the respect they deserve, which would have been high.

As for upsetting "big" people, the only one I have ever heard of, is the Loving Dominant guy, and frankly, I personally don't care about the rest. You might think you are big, well.... sorry, but your not. You are also, insulting your comrades, as they can, beleive it or not answer for themselves without you standing up for them! You are not the cape crusader even if you think you are!
The few who are coming up with good points are the important people here, not the ones like yourself whos main task it is in life is to make jokes and petty little comments trying to suggest people are something they aren't.

So, crux is, if you don't like us, ignore us.

simple when you get the hang of it, we on the other hand, will talk to THOSE who make sense and fancy a damn good debate.
Whether we agree or not.

Elizabeth / o^^

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:14:19 PM

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I do hope you feel better next week.

...and this one has been another winner; I cannot fully understand why anyone has actually bothered to reply to him...a legend in his own mind if I've ever read one. Maybe he can get together with that winner with the staff of Harvard lawyers who could neither spell nor figure out how a pre-nuptial contract worked.

This is supposed to be a forum for 'General BDSM Discussion'...jesus, this thread has almost been enough to turn me 'vanilla'...

C

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:14:44 PM

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Reading its profile leads Me to believe that he's a Berber sheet commando of Hislam. Not being able to recognize that he has some ingrown misogynostic sheets of hair-a-bee attitudes compounded by heat related rump humpin' of asses and camels.
I really do not want to waste any more time chastizing this deluded, camel humpin' mucklin, but shaitan made Me do it.
Archbishop of Santorum
Doctor of Delicious Deviance
Exposer of Camel humpers
PS: I wonder if I wouldn't be half as pissed at this clown if I hadn't read that he claims to be an expert in hating Christianity, and some others on his profile. Nahhhh, My mammy would switch My legs if I didn't challenge his marinated magnifience.

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I just have to wonder what freaky little place this creature is sheikh OF and keep it off my "places to visit in the UK" list. However....it could be a good place for my "snipe hunting" list...............

I think "it" has eaten too many camel droppings

I was a shiekh in my native land, but that was before I had to take up residence in the UK, at the 17th century mansion of Fallowfield Hall. This was necessary to manage my family's business interests over here.

Camel droppings are not a delicacy and are not eaten but used as fuel by my brethren who still roam the deserts.

If you add where I live to your list of places not to visit in the UK, that may be good; at least there will be one American who does not believe they have a God-given right to stomp all over the world and meddle in affairs that do not concern them.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:14:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: zumala
Given the nature of all his other posts on this thread, do you honestly think he was intending friendly banter? There's still the matter of the fact that the person being joked about isn't even part of this conversation to my knowledge.

That aside, I'll file your comment about Essex away somewhere. I've not yet been able to visit the UK, but I would like to eventually.

zuma

I do hope you feel better next week.

That post was clearly not directed toward you, nor do I appreciate the veiled insult.

zuma

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:19:45 PM

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I've only read through the second page of this, but I'm compelled to weigh in.

I've noticed a bias against younger folks. There's a whole lot of talk about " you can't be a real dom unless you're thirty" and "young people don't know what they're doing. They're lonely, reformed goth kids, whose parents didn't love them and they're begging to be victimized. " I think it's arrogant and disrespectful. Idiots are idiots, whether they're fifty five and have been living the life for thirty years or they're sixteen and advertising themselves as no-limit slaves.

Why? If you kick everybody who expresses interest in the teeth because they're young and dumb, then you don't give people the opportunity to sort themselves out. If left alone, the cream would rise to the top. Those folks who were honest and sincere would stick around and those who weren't would find other things to do. If they're not your partner, don't worry about it. Those 'younguns', myself included, will sort ourselves out. The ones who are serious will learn. We'll read the books, we'll go to munches, and we'll find partners who encourage us, guide us, and reinforce our good habits. To borrow Faulkner, we won't just survive, we will prosper.

If you're genuinely worried about somebody taking advantage of someone, remind people who might take advantage of them that there are morals beyond the law. If somebody takes advantage of people, are they really somebody that you want in your scene with you or your partner? If they're not part of a group, are they actively seeking to learn? The first thing I did when I realized that what I'd been doing was domming was find somebody to help. It's the only logical conclusion-- get help.

This whole problem smacks of arrogance and elitism. You'd think that given the assumption that folks in the scene are smarter than average folks, that somebody else would've come to this conclusion earlier.

-m

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:24:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

quote:

ORIGINAL: zumala

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sheikh

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bugei
No introduction at all, just a bit of advice to an embarrassing Essex girl in pink. For the UK to USA translation please ask in private because I have been flamed for answering such questions here.

Are you sure that "embarrassing Essex girl" is not a tautology?

You are asking him if the girl in question is a redundancy... Logically looking at your selection of "embarrassing Essex girl", you are insulting the girl by saying that since she is female, she must be embarrassing. Or that she is embarrassing because she's from Essex. Given your previous insults regarding the female intellect and emotional stability, the former is more likely. Which means that you are still insulting the female sex. And this time the girl in question hasn't even said a word to you. So much for maturity and manners on your part, sir.

zuma

Whilst it is perfectly possible that you may neither have known the cultural reference involved nor somehow been able to access Google to look up the meaning and implication of the term "Essex girl", one might be minded to suspect you had wilfully misinterpreted my comment as some insult on wiminkind.

One would have to suspect that "Essex girl" was a term of some significant meaning to even think of looking it up as such. Not having been to the UK, I was unaware of the cultural link. That really shouldn't be too much of a surprise, I shouldn't think. So to answer your suspicion of wilfull misinterpretation because I was looking for a sexual insult -- no, I didn't.

The following references may help:

http://snipurl.com/r9xz
http://snipurl.com/r9y0
http://snipurl.com/r9y1
http://snipurl.com/r9y2
http://snipurl.com/r9y3

Once you have read those, you may begin to understand.

Granted. Between you and Elizabeth, I've learned something new today about the UK culture.

zuma

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:24:58 PM

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quote:

I've only read through the second page of this, but I'm compelled to weigh in.

continue reading honey...you do not have the gist of the thread as of yet....

When young ones were spoken of earlier it was in the context of abuse....but we are so past that point of the discussion now....

*edited to add: God I just reread this post and if it sounds bitchy, I am sorry. I am tired and missing my Master terribly. He will return tomorrow, but I am starting to get pouty and pissy, so if I gave off a little extra vinegar Mathias, I am sorry.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:28:40 PM

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Very well done Mathias.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:28:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: mathiasdomm

I've only read through the second page of this, but I'm compelled to weigh in.

I've noticed a bias against younger folks. There's a whole lot of talk about " you can't be a real dom unless you're thirty" and "young people don't know what they're doing. They're lonely, reformed goth kids, whose parents didn't love them and they're begging to be victimized. " I think it's arrogant and disrespectful. Idiots are idiots, whether they're fifty five and have been living the life for thirty years or they're sixteen and advertising themselves as no-limit slaves.

Why? If you kick everybody who expresses interest in the teeth because they're young and dumb, then you don't give people the opportunity to sort themselves out. If left alone, the cream would rise to the top. Those folks who were honest and sincere would stick around and those who weren't would find other things to do. If they're not your partner, don't worry about it. Those 'younguns', myself included, will sort ourselves out. The ones who are serious will learn. We'll read the books, we'll go to munches, and we'll find partners who encourage us, guide us, and reinforce our good habits. To borrow Faulkner, we won't just survive, we will prosper.

If you're genuinely worried about somebody taking advantage of someone, remind people who might take advantage of them that there are morals beyond the law. If somebody takes advantage of people, are they really somebody that you want in your scene with you or your partner?   If they're not part of a group, are they actively seeking to learn? The first thing I did when I realized that what I'd been doing was domming was find somebody to help. It's the only logical conclusion-- get help.

This whole problem smacks of arrogance and elitism. You'd think that given the assumption that folks in the scene are smarter than average folks, that somebody else would've come to this conclusion earlier.

-m

Lesson one.  People in the BDSM <coughgagchoke> "lifestyle" are some of the most elitist and arrogant that you will ever know.

Ooops...I meant to put that sentence *outside* of the box. I am editing to clarify that the last statement above is mine and not part of Mathais post

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:34:06 PM

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Do yourself a favor, Mathias.. leave this thread unread and go to Polls and other Random Stupidity. It's a hell of a lot more fun and you'll actually find less stupidity there than here.

;)

Celeste

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:45:47 PM

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You read what you want to Mathias! Don't be dictated to!

Besides, those that are telling you to go elswhere, are still here, so something is keeping them here.
What I would say, is take it all in fun, don't get to wound up, and take it all in your stride, we are!

Elizabeth / o^^

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 7:48:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: zumala

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: zumala
Given the nature of all his other posts on this thread, do you honestly think he was intending friendly banter? There's still the matter of the fact that the person being joked about isn't even part of this conversation to my knowledge.

That aside, I'll file your comment about Essex away somewhere. I've not yet been able to visit the UK, but I would like to eventually.

zuma

I do hope you feel better next week.

That post was clearly not directed toward you,

No, it was about me.

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ORIGINAL: zumala
nor do I appreciate the veiled insult.

zuma

What "veiled insult"?

What is wrong with expressing a hope that you might soon recover from whatever it might be that seems to have afflicted you?

And have you tried syrup of figs?

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