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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:04:20 PM

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Are you ever going to answer the question about why you posted someone's private email to a public forum and posted enough information from her profile that she could be located or do you just ignore it when people ask you questions which are too hard to answer?

Pretending the issue doesn't exist doesn't make it go away.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:05:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: Bugei

May have been a rant : but a very valuable one

Not really. Just a guy who seems to think his orientation allows him to tell others how to act. Years ago, we called it Top's Disease.

But doesn't that apply to any true, lifestyle dominant male?
Who but a wimp would let a woman chide or scold him in such a vulgar manner?

What choice would he have? Thankfully women are no longer treated as lesser cititzens in this country as they were years ago. And thankfully in American we dont punish people in barbaric ways for using foul language.

Whilst I am not sure I would go quite that far, the physiological effects must adversely affect reasoning and judgement to the extent that a woman who lacks the guidance and help of a man is truly to be pitied.

Tell that to any single mother who is working her ass off and raising her kids because some "critter who doesnt have to worry about bleeding for 5 days" felt like bedding her, giving her a few kids, then taking off. What the hell world do you live in where such absolutes exist? And where the hell has that attitude gotten *your* people?? (besides America).

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:06:29 PM

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Elizabeth,

The point that I was trying to make is that maybe your Master should think first before sending unrequested advice. God only knows what other email that young woman had received that day (if the ones that I have gotten are any indication) and perhaps they colored her judgement when she responded, but your Master was out of line. He has no right to offer unsolicited advice and expect a pleasant reply. I am often not kind when strangers suggest that they know better than I about what I need.

As to you not being 100% perfect, that was tongue in cheek. No one is perfect nor should they strive to be (contrary to my Mother's opinion) but we can try to be civil to one another. I just wanted for your Master to recognize that as rude as the young lady may have been, he was rude #1 for contacting her in such a fashion and #2 for airing her email here in a public forum.

I am glad that you are a mouthy spunky sassy woman, I think that is great. If your dynamic works for you and yours, then I wish you the best. I still think that it was presumptive of him to contact her

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:06:43 PM

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Na! Freud? No such person, must be imaginary or something your Mother said when you were Yung!

Elizabeth / o^^

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:11:46 PM

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Ok, just for the chewing the cud (discussion),

How would one actually get an introduction to this female, if one wanted to anyway?

Even so, if I had loads of emails, I still wouldn't personally react like she did, no matter who wrote what.
Those emails I do not wish to answer, I just ignore, don't you?

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:21:32 PM

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*chewing on cud*

She said that she did not take unsolicited chat requests, correct? Then how about an email of introduction with an offer to chat sometime? If she responded great and if not...move one.

I do not think that I have responded rudely to anyone who did not deserve it (the guy who has created 6 different profiles to find out why I keep blocking him and now has gone on to tell lies about me to people that I know and care about comes to mind). I have also politely told people to stop contacting me only to have them continue to do so. When I (in one instance) told the "gentleman" in question that I did not understand why he continued to contact me even though I told him that I wanted nothing to do with a married man he got extremely rude. (Made our young lady look like a princess.) I did not create an OP about it nor did I post his email or any other information about him. I just deleted his inflamatory response and blocked him.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:28:04 PM

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I guess it really is a personal hierarchy. I have a submissive personality, but I only submit where I see fit. No one's dominant to me unless I accept that.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:34:30 PM

Bugei

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And your point is?

I was asked to explain and I did.

Where did you get your limited set of values girl?

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:40:13 PM

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ok, being pedantic... its chewing THE cud, which is a good old fashion country term for having a chin wag, and i must admit, a fun one. I am rather interested in quirky terms, which we tend to have a lot of over here.
By no means, take this correction as a critisism, its just in jest.

Anyway. you have told us your story, about a man, who's obviously a bit of a loon, and won't give up. That is in itself rather disgusting and I wish you all the best on that one.
The original question/post, IMO, was just realy a question to spark a conversation (to someone else, if you want to know WHY he posted it, if you ask him VERY nicely.....). I have to say, he does like a good banter, and while I am chatting, to friends, he is chuckling to himself, sometimes out loud, that I have to go to the CM.com Web site, just to see what he's laughing about.
By then of course, it's usually to late for me to chip in, as the convo has moved on slightly.

I think his email, was in fact an email of introduction, which is why I asked the question, How do you get in touch if she wanted you to?
If, your email of introduction gets a certain responce.

Unlike your stalker, he of course hasn't pursude the matter or made 6 Ids,
As I said before, I wish you well with the removal of your man, he is possibly reading your posts of course!
Which is VERY VERY SAD!

isn't it?

E;izabeth / o^^

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:46:38 PM

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I think his email, was in fact an email of introduction,

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"A bit of advice : A sub who makes demands like this is a huge turn off for any Dominant."

If this is his idea of an introduction...

Back to colloquialisms...I thoght that it was chewing on cud and chewing the fat. I could be wrong...

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 5:51:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: zumala

Sheikh, do you have anything better to do than reply to every female poster with an insult? I can understand replying to a post, but not insulting everyone based on their gender. You don't like America. Fine. You don't like women. Fine. But you don't have to go around insulting people repeatedly. Manners are appreciated and expected in any adult forum.

zuma

I consider my responses to be most remarkably mild, considering the remarks to which I was replying: that I had eaten camel droppings - which is racist - or that I wrote with one hand on my staff.

Perhaps you should also chide your fellow Americans?

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:08:02 PM

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You could be right, might be "on cud", might be "the cud", I will stand to be corrected if this is the case, but I am curious now. lol

I have to also, be corrected in, that, having a convo, with Bugei, he definately didn't send an email of introduction, I figured our discussion, was a decent line to follow in my opinion though none the less.
Trouble is, its so long ago now, I can't remember what was in the original email to be specific.

Plus its time for bed now, so nite nite and thanks for the ongoing chat angelface.

Elizabeth / o^^

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:10:15 PM

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hmmmm smaller brain huh?? Well this "small" brain has a big vocabulary and not all the words are nice ones, would please me sooooooo much to go off on you sheikh but i think i am going to take the high ground here and just say that you are an idiot.

And that's how one takes "the moral high ground", is it - by puerile name-calling? One wonders what the next step will be: to allege that your father is bigger than mine or simply to pull faces in my general direction?

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ORIGINAL: Sub03
Feel free to follow whatever beliefs you want but this is america

But the place whence I write is not America. Moreover, the United Kingdom abolished the trade in negro slaves long before America did, nor did the United Kingdom practice a form of apartheid into the 1960s as some states in America did.

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ORIGINAL: Sub03
and women whether slaves, subs or anything else are equal to men and amazingly enough we can survive without them if we want to. Some women even *gasp* Dom men and guess what.....the men like it and ask for it *gasp*.....wow amazing isnt it. So guess what your beliefs are not going to go over very well here.

It is a common misconception to believe that women are equal and the sooner the proper place of women is recognised the sooner western society can start to mend itself. No man suffers the endocrine onslaught of menstruation and. try as I might, I cannot begin to imagine what it must be like to endure that torment month after month. While I would not claim it must turn one's wits permanently, it must surely have an effect on rational thought; one only has to look at the record of the Thatcher government in the UK for the proof of that.

As for some men being dominated by women or even enjoying that, it really is not difficult to explain; just as the plushies and furbies miss their teddy bears, so men into "fem dom" plainly miss their mommies.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:11:50 PM

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No introduction at all, just a bit of advice to an embarrassing Essex girl in pink. For the UK to USA translation please ask in private because I have been flamed for answering such questions here.

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:17:13 PM

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Well I did a check on the WWW for Chewing the Cud,
Amazon Do have a book on Cud,
You can be taught all about cud on www. Farmersworld.com
and you can buy the cud on eBay!

but I couldn't find a reference in two minutes for the term.

However, There is a book seriously, called "Chewing the Cud" by, and no im NOT kidding, Dick King-Smith, who apparently wrote Babe!

xxx Elizabeth

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:20:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bugei

I am gratified that my idle musing has provoked so much interest. My heart felt thanks to you all for your contributions. Keep them coming.

Your original postings seemed to express confusion that the woman could describe herself as a slave, yet not be submissive or even polite in her response to you.

Have you considered the possibility that she is indeed a slave, but mainly a slave to Tourette's Syndrome?

In that case, perhaps one should ask what effect BDSM would have on her condition? Or, to put it another way, could she take a good licking and still keep on tic'ing?

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:22:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sheikh

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ORIGINAL: zumala

Sheikh, do you have anything better to do than reply to every female poster with an insult? I can understand replying to a post, but not insulting everyone based on their gender. You don't like America. Fine. You don't like women. Fine. But you don't have to go around insulting people repeatedly. Manners are appreciated and expected in any adult forum.

zuma

I consider my responses to be most remarkably mild, considering the remarks to which I was replying: that I had eaten camel droppings - which is racist - or that I wrote with one hand on my staff.

Perhaps you should also chide your fellow Americans?

To be honest, the insult tossing was just unnecessary on everyone's part. However, judging and insulting someone based on their gender (or religion, for that matter, though that wasn't the major issue this time) is bound to stir up wrath. I think someone mentioned you eating camel droppings because you had previously stated that a woman who spoke back to a man in the old days might have been forced to eat camel dung. Seeing as how that's rather disgusting and inhumane, they objected by insulting you back. Not that it was right, mind you, but it was a reaction to something you had said first. As for the second comment about body parts... *sigh* That's just where gender-based arguements tend to go. I'm not saying anyone was right to go there. Not you. Not them.

zuma

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:24:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bugei

And your point is?

I was asked to explain and I did.

Where did you get your limited set of values girl?

First, I am not a girl, I'm a grandmother and I've earned every one of my gray hairs so you can save your condescending remarks for the 25 year old neophytes whom you like to intimidate. Second, no, you never answered how it is that you believe that it's quite all right to post someone private email to a public forum. In my book, that makes you a liar. How's that for a limited set of values?

If you believe that ones private email and respecting their private email falls under the category of 'limited values' there is nothing more I wish to say to you as you obviously live in some other universe than the one which I inhabit. I don't know what you call your universe but I call mine 'reality.' You have exposed yourself to my satisfaction and I have no further use for you. You are dismissed, little boy.

Celeste

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:25:34 PM

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No introduction at all, just a bit of advice to an embarrassing Essex girl in pink. For the UK to USA translation please ask in private because I have been flamed for answering such questions here.

Are you sure that "embarrassing Essex girl" is not a tautology?

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RE: Is BDSM to popular - 6/2/2006 6:26:49 PM

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Excuse me, but he is no more a liar, than you yourself are, with your faded photo to make you look better!

Elizabeth / o^^

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