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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 3:29:50 PM   
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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 4:20:59 PM   
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A true submissive male thinks less than zero about the "women" who post profiles like these.

It's a pity that those "true submissive males" still care enough to whine about them with amazing regularity.



I have to say, sometimes I'm baffled by the reaction of real Dommes (there, I've said it) about those scammers, bullshitters and would-be pocket-emptiers. It's not just that they, collectively, can destroy the souls of submales and make them despondent about any kind of authentic D/s relationship - they also make life harder for Dommes who are the real thing.

When I first turned up on CM those parasites pounced (as I'm sure they do with all new sub males) and, were it not for a few kind femdoms here who befriended me, I'd have given up, just as I'd always given up before.

Why do you - and many others - attack the submales who "whine" about these low people rather than those who are really doing the damage to both sides?


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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 4:36:22 PM   
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How sad to see so many profiles from women who claim to be dominant calling submissive men "losers", "worthless pigs" and the like, taking photos of themselves flipping off the camera or posing with an array of twenty dollar bills. Most of these posts are by young girls barely in their twenties. Ladies, if you have any sense of decency, think hard about how you portray yourself in your profile. A true submissive male thinks less than zero about the "women" who post profiles like these.


Apples and oranges. To the OP, because this thing would not let me quote his post directly, I had to slap it together myself...

These young ladies are advertising; their ad is geared toward the audience they are trying to attract. Believe it or not, there are A LOT of males coming here who do not want to be in a D/s relationship...they merely want to cyber with some hot chick who cyberly slaps them around, forces them to masturbate with some big rubber dick up their arse while calling them a lowly worm. Yay that the two of them can advertise and find each other and leave the rest of us alone.

Btw, I had to wade through lots of self-labeled losers, worthless pigs, worms, etc., before I found my weal twue sub. If I were fishing, I'd say I needed hip deep waders, yanno?

Suggestion. Since most of the uber young Dommes here are into things that you are not, scroll down your Home page until you see the Search function and set the age parameters higher, to within five or ten years of your own age. My slave is ten years older than I am...and he would never have found me if he had been looking among the twenty year olds.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 5:00:21 PM   
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These young ladies are advertising; their ad is geared toward the audience they are trying to attract. Believe it or not, there are A LOT of males coming here who do not want to be in a D/s relationship...they merely want to cyber with some hot chick who cyberly slaps them around, forces them to masturbate with some big rubber dick up their arse while calling them a lowly worm. Yay that the two of them can advertise and find each other and leave the rest of us alone.



Yes, but those young women are *very* proactive, Cynthia, in a way that real Dommes are not. And they're indiscriminate. I posted my profile, almost exactly as it is now, making it very clear that I was looking for a loving relationship with a femdom. After so many of these blowflies contacting me I thought, 'Right. Only the young ones will go for me. No chance of a woman near my own age.'

And then their tactic is that if I show resentment, well, they'll make it clear that I'm a pervert, that no real woman will be interested in me, and I'll have no choice but to open my wallet. I deserve no better. Because, after all, as a sub male I'm not a real male.

They scam the wankers - and who cares. But they're never above trying to empty the pockets, and thereby the spirits, of those who really want the real thing, either.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 6:03:42 PM   
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I'd check the carburetor on that popcorn maker if I were you.






Thats what I'm here for. If you could point me in the direction of your toaster I'd be more than happy to take a look.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 6:12:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		As far as the OP , its does get a bit depressing to read profile after profile of degrading men, subs and dominate males alike, in truth it does raise a bit of anger in us males to see such hate. Although....... we are all well aware of the males that are asses. There are many. My message to you Mr OP is that perhaps we will be lucky that not all women disregard all us men as dirt. There are among us a few good ones. And we know what most women tend to do unfortunately... It must be a circle of life thing. lol

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 6:59:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		  Now for the dommes whom throw up 'the middle finger, some men like that, i had someone whom wanted toleit service that is such a hard limit and one man wanted a penis ecotomy ,<<<<<,, (spelled so wrong)  he wanted his penis taken off and all of the remaining root with it, why would he want this?  I saw for the first time deep rooted phy. problems within that one letter i saw! When i first read it is was very normal, it is only when you go to the profile he mention this type of operation,!  I was so shocked, i did not write, what would i ask him!  He is dead set on haveing this done, but i wonder will someone do this and keep him?     I think there is someone for everyone these young women filled their pockets with money!   This does fill a need for 'men whom feel this way about theirselves and need to be heard!

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 7:10:57 PM   
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Suggestion. Since most of the uber young Dommes here are into things that you are not, scroll down your Home page until you see the Search function and set the age parameters higher, to within five or ten years of your own age. My slave is ten years older than I am...and he would never have found me if he had been looking among the twenty year olds. [/color]



BTW, thought I should mention: my first partner that I met through here was 21. She was, and is, in all ways a beaut. Nope, I don't think I'll re-set my age parameters.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 9:24:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		As far as I am concerned, I think they are doing the rest of us a service.

The male subs seeking just sex will come on and build up this profile about wanting to be treated like a pig/toilet/object/worm/ect ect.

Then, the Dommes come on wanting these men specifically.

Win win situation.

They meet... and leave the rest of us alone.

Also makes it extremely easy to weed out the rejects.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 9:55:14 PM   
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WHAT in the WORLD are those uppetty Wimmins thinking to try to scam a true sub like you!?

Listen you Wimmins!  You are hereby put on NOTICE!  All yous up to and including Michele Obama - clearly one of the most uppetty wimmins evar..I mean....just ask Rush!





So...my uppity...uppetty...upety?...and sometimes off sense of humor has got me a private message about this post. 

I hope all you "wimmins" know that it was purely meant in jest and was riffing on the OP...I make strange connections sometimes...like the audacity of "fake dommes" and Michele Obama being called "uppity" by Rush Limbaugh...The inside of my head...not pretty...no...

Anyhoo...no harm meant on my part...hope none taken on any of yours. 

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 11:00:37 PM   
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Peon, you are making me have thinky thoughts. I might start a thread once I get it sorted out, and see if I can make my view less harsh. Or at least, less harsh sounding.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/22/2011 11:10:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

WHAT in the WORLD are those uppetty Wimmins thinking to try to scam a true sub like you!?

Listen you Wimmins!  You are hereby put on NOTICE!  All yous up to and including Michele Obama - clearly one of the most uppetty wimmins evar..I mean....just ask Rush!





So...my uppity...uppetty...upety?...and sometimes off sense of humor has got me a private message about this post. 

I hope all you "wimmins" know that it was purely meant in jest and was riffing on the OP...I make strange connections sometimes...like the audacity of "fake dommes" and Michele Obama being called "uppity" by Rush Limbaugh...The inside of my head...not pretty...no...

Anyhoo...no harm meant on my part...hope none taken on any of yours. 


I thought it was funny as hell. :) *HUGS*

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/23/2011 4:52:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do you consider the profiles by submissive men who refer to themselves as pigs or losers just as bad? What if one of the profiles you are whining about meets one of the ones I just mentioned?

And what exactly is a "true submissive" male? Would he spend time complaining about other women or spend time trying to make one womens life easier?


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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/23/2011 11:34:14 AM   
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As far as I am concerned, I think they are doing the rest of us a service.

The male subs seeking just sex will come on and build up this profile about wanting to be treated like a pig/toilet/object/worm/ect ect.

Then, the Dommes come on wanting these men specifically.

Win win situation.

They meet... and leave the rest of us alone.

Also makes it extremely easy to weed out the rejects.


I think that's a fairly concise summation of the standard view on this thread and many others that have been started, by submales, on a similar theme.  But much depends on what kind of submale you're dealing with. 

I think, crudely speaking, there are two types.  1) is a wanker.  He gets his jollies on by sending pictures of his dick and completely assumes that femdoms are the physical incarnations of his fantasies.  He doesn't know, and quite possibly doesn't even care, that they might be human, as well.  Yep, the gannets in thighboots can swallow this sort up and leave the rest of us to carve out real relationships.  The standardly crappy way that men can act, on CM, is as wankers and 'do-me's'.  The standardly crappy way that women can act is as gannets, pecking at wallets.  They deserve each other; and also deserve to get equally short shrift here on these boards. 

Type 2), though, isn't like this.  He has had very little to do with the world of prostitutes and knows little about pro-Dommes.  The chances are that he won't know anything about  the bait and switchers.  He wants a relationship.  He sees women as potential for relationships, not as purveyors of kink-services.

Type 2) is my type - how I was when I first came to CM.  I once started a thread a bit like this one and was immediately baffled by the replies.  The first said "OK, I'll bite' - and gave me a dose of CM's usual sarcasm about the subject.  Then some femdoms chimed in . . . and, just as here, it was all turned around.  I was in the wrong for "whining"; the bait and switchers were vindicated. 

It was a puzzling and depressing response.   If the way you see women is as potential for relationships, alone, you simply don't understand where all this is coming from or what the point of it is.  I wasn't like the OP - from his profile, he sees women far more as Goddesses than I did, even then.  But I *did* expect femdoms not to be like  . . . well, what appeared to be a gang of nasty schoolgirls. 

Pfft.  Like I say, I got 'rescued' by some femdoms who were kind.  They've remained friends.  I wouldn't be posting here now, were it not for them. 

So what I'm saying is: by all means go ahead if you think you've got a type 1) on your hands.  Win-win situation, as you say.  But if you've got a type 2) - then it could be lose, lose and carry on losing.  The bait and switchers get off scot free - so that they can continue to pounce on, and dispirit, men like me.  Then, they come here, to get further dispirited.  Not just by the apparent vindication of such bait and switchers, nor even just by the sarky swipes and outright attacks; but at a more fundamental level - but because he has an elevated view of women, and femdoms in particular, which gets knocked down.

As for the OP himself - yes, he describes himself as a 'true sub'.  He's plainly not aware of how much that term has been kicked around on these boards.  True, his profile talks about 'Goddesses' and little else.  I'd recommend he change that.  His journal and his comments on these boards, though, show someone who, to me, looks like he wants to connect in a way that I think many women here would feel to be at least *potentially* good and desirable. 

Others may take a different view of this particular OP.  That's their privilege.  But, gawd, folks - I've recently been accused of becoming 'cynical'.   But I don't feel like I'm being the cynical one on this thread - unless it's about cynicism (particularly of the too-hasty sort) itself. 

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/23/2011 12:17:51 PM   
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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 11/23/2011 12:38:02 PM   
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For the record, I don't think you've become cynical, Darlling, that's not your style.

I've been on CM since 2005, and for most of that time, my filters on the other side were set to what I was seeking. I changed this year to "everyone" in Michigan, finally settling to "everyone in Michigan aged 21-55". APPALLING. All the men complaining about moneygrabbers and gannets (ah, the most CHARMING skyrat!) were not kidding! Yes, I did see actual women that I know or have met in realtime, but most of the red letter names were /are utter oxygen thieves. That they are proactively seeking out men is a new one for me, and equally appalling. When I was a pro dominant, I said that I was for the sake of disclosure, I never used CM for business, nor did I seek clientele--I didn't have to!

The other half of that...well, it's those morons who are actually SENDING WOMEN MONEY. And they do, I asked some of the younguns how it was going, and reports were that there were "timewasters" but there was cash and prizes to be had. Yes, I made a vinegary journal entry. BECAUSE WTF!!

I have had men initiate what seems to be pleasant conversation, and then offer me money for sex, or play, or both. I have also just had them want to have Activity X, nsa. Um. Sorry, no longer in that line of work, never took cash for fucking, kthxbai. That none of the men (so far) was taking the "u r a slut" approach, but acted like paying me would be a perfectly normal aspect of the interaction makes me sad. It shouldn't, really, none of them were interested in anything but kink, and isnt that who we shove off on the sex workers?

Some of you know that Auntie Hib tries her best to help the ones who look like they MIGHT benefit. I have had some success, but not nearly enough. There are some men out there who are so entrenched in their fantasy world that the reality that I live will never touch them. BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ACCEPT IT. They will keep giving money to MistressGalaxy or AcademyForDebitCards, because that's the level of interaction that they want and understand. That I can introduce them to Real Life Pervs (tm) who can show them what we really do, and how much fun we have doing it is just too scary, and too REAL, and not glossy enough. We're supposed to be all Goddessy or whatever. Yeah, I'll get right on that...

I am still thinking on this, and trying not to sound all socialDarwinian, but really, I do see the gannets as thinning the herd for us.

One of my beautiful friends has a new name on here: FadingDesires. How sad is that? She's younger than me, more patient and tolerant than me, and just a fabulous woman generally. She even enjoys aftercare! But her new name says it all: the majority of men on the other side, and the majority of self-identified sub males in the scene are really best suited for the skinny squawkers. She's been told to "lower her standards". No, I don't think so. Because in the initial few months, when you figure people are on their BEST behavior, the men are showing that their best isn't even mediocre. I am happy to chase men like that away.

I feel a rantyrant coming on, and I don't want to go there. At least not right now! I still might start a thread in the Mistress zone. I will just say that men who really give a fuck about having a real loving RELATIONSHIP with a female dominant are very few and far between. Yes, they are there, I have certainly met dozens over the years. They are in a tremendous minority. Their brethren make them extra-shiny in comparison.

When it comes down to it, it's WORK serving a femdom. We're bossy, and we say NO when we want to. We tell you to go watch the game in the other room, our show is on. We want our coffee when we want it. It's not all glitter and orgasms, even for us. If the men who are worthwhile are interested, they will stay interested, just as women like me and my friend have. (and we are interested, because we are relentlessly Not Vanilla). It's a test, of sorts. Not sure how you tell if you passed or not...

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 12/1/2011 11:25:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe an instadomme is someone who gets a IM/message and replies with "Pay me" no matter what the person said, which isn't right. You should talk to them a bit first at least. A domme is different than a findomme. Some guys hate it some guys love it.... or other things.

Everyone is different, everyone likes different things. As some others mentioned there is weird fetishes out there, just deal with them:



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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 12/2/2011 1:12:44 AM   
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I have to say, sometimes I'm baffled by the reaction of real Dommes (there, I've said it) about those scammers, bullshitters and would-be pocket-emptiers. It's not just that they, collectively, can destroy the souls of submales and make them despondent about any kind of authentic D/s relationship - they also make life harder for Dommes who are the real thing.

I'm kind of late to this one but I'm going to add anyway.  This is something that we've talked about before.  I think it's worth revisiting.

I don't have the same point of view as the highlighted above.  In fact, nothing could be farther from the truth.  I'm of the opinion that there is a lot more grading on the curve that gets mixed up into this and frankly, that makes certain Dominant women look damn good.  For Me and a number of women like Me, all it does is serve how the comparison plays out.

As much as some might want to capitalize on youth and beauty, that's not especially what this game is all about.  There's more to it than just the surface and a number of folks know that.


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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 12/2/2011 6:05:36 AM   
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How sad to see so many profiles from women who claim to be dominant calling submissive men "losers", "worthless pigs" and the like, taking photos of themselves flipping off the camera or posing with an array of twenty dollar bills. Most of these posts are by young girls barely in their twenties. Ladies, if you have any sense of decency, think hard about how you portray yourself in your profile. A true submissive male thinks less than zero about the "women" who post profiles like these.


I am not charged with the responsibility of approving or disproving others profiles and don’t relate to taking exception to others beliefs, if in a profile a woman expresses a view of men as losers or worthless pigs… those are her views, accept them as views that belong to her and having absolutely nothing at all to do with you. Hell I once had a man call me a son-of-a- bitch in English, Italian and German all in one meeting but that didn’t effect my decision not to accept the contract he wanted my firm to accept.

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RE: Wannabe Dommes - 12/2/2011 9:50:15 AM   
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A true submissive male thinks less than zero about the "women" who post profiles like these.

It's a pity that those "true submissive males" still care enough to whine about them with amazing regularity.



I have to say, sometimes I'm baffled by the reaction of real Dommes (there, I've said it) about those scammers, bullshitters and would-be pocket-emptiers. It's not just that they, collectively, can destroy the souls of submales and make them despondent about any kind of authentic D/s relationship - they also make life harder for Dommes who are the real thing.

When I first turned up on CM those parasites pounced (as I'm sure they do with all new sub males) and, were it not for a few kind femdoms here who befriended me, I'd have given up, just as I'd always given up before.

Why do you - and many others - attack the submales who "whine" about these low people rather than those who are really doing the damage to both sides?



So if you go to a bar to meet women and only the bimbos or girls who are looking for guys to buy them free drinks come up to you, it will also damage men and makes them think all women are like that? Sorry, but I give men a bit more credit than that, if that puts them off and they aren't able to figure out the reality of the internet, good riddance, they're possibly also afraid to move out of mom's basement.

Come on, most of us here find rather off-putting mails and graphic pics in our CMail, the guys might not ask for money, they just ask for our bodies, for graphic pictures, they ask us to do stuff that most of us have stated as hard limits, but I guess that's alright because they're not asking us for money...

Do you realize how chauvinistic that is? If it's about a guy who *might* get scammed everybody is up in arms and we women should help to prevent it as it damages us too? Get real, if somebody is stupid enough to send a considerable amount of money to a stranger just because they ask him to, then that person is obviously stupid and neglects to read what CM writes in big red letters. Why don't men just simply assume some responsibility for their own actions and purses? If a woman sends explicit shots because some guy asks for it and she finds them all over the net, most people will say "How could she be so stupid?" But a guy not getting what he wants and stupidly sending money to a scammer - freaking disaster, call the national guard...


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