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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 11:12:41 AM   
TheFireWithinMe


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Or maybe you have a temper. My gut says it's the latter. <shrugs>

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 3:09:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Unshriven

Lastly, you don't know who the real me is. I agree, yes my journal entries were very negative. As I said in a different post, I was going through a difficult divorce at the time.  I may have had just a smidge of outside angst influencing how I wrote.  I think if I was the narrow minded, selfish, angry POS as I've been made out to be, I wouldn't be here asking for help.



Well, you would be wrong in that assumption as narrow minded, selfish, angry POS's come on here all the time to complain about how nobody will respond to them and why not. And then they get angrier when told why.

About the difficult divorce, it's never a good idea to go out seeking a new relationship when you're in the throes of that. Because during it you do come off as an angry POS. Years ago I remember meeting a very nice man who became a family friend. The funny thing is that my sister met him six months earlier during a bad divorce when he was the most angry and offensive person on earth. The first impression was so strong that it lasted for her and she simply wouldn't come to any gathering where he would be.

So if you're over that first rage filled state, then rewrite the profile and pull the journal entries which are really just mean tempered vents.

And in future, take the time to heal first before inflicting yourself on others when you simply aren't in good company.


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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:12:27 PM   
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Unshriven, for what it's worth, I will share with you my strong gut reaction upon reading your profile. You will not like it, especially because I cannot specifically tell you why, and I apologize for not being able to be more direct and helpful to you in this regard.

I could not complete reading it the first time, as it felt far too disturbing, left me fearful, and really put me off. My intuition suggests there is a lot more going on underneath your written words than you may, or may not, be aware of in regards to your personality traits.

It is just my opinion, I mean no offense, may be totally wrong, and you may think me crazy, but never have I had such a violent reaction to another's profile.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:25:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Unshriven



um no, I didn't demand anything nor did I say every sub should be humble to every self proclaimed dominant. I said I've noticed a lack of humility. It's not the same thing.
Also my comment regarding housework was not about subs having to clean, it was about her being demanding and bottoming from the top.  It wasn't about who did the dishes.
I can see, however, how you could have read it that way. Regarding the issues of downtime, cleaning and other household issues, it's always been my position that the sub has the right to negotiate all of this before a 'contract' is signed.  My belief is that it's the whole point of a contract.  I also believe that it should be revisited from time to time to make adjustments for things that aren't working.  I believe and have spoken to the fact that yes, sometimes the real world intrudes and it takes both of you to overcome that.

Lastly, you don't know who the real me is. I agree, yes my journal entries were very negative. As I said in a different post, I was going through a difficult divorce at the time.  I may have had just a smidge of outside angst influencing how I wrote.  I think if I was the narrow minded, selfish, angry POS as I've been made out to be, I wouldn't be here asking for help.




Your profile is a chance to make a verbal snapshot of who you are.

I don't know how recent the divorce is but if it is fairly recent then generally speaking seeking right away is often not the wisest course, no matter how ready you think you are or what a potentially good catch you could be.

That you had posted divorce related negativity is a pretty good indication you aren't ready. You still have to become the person you are after divorce...when you aren't in a bitter or angry place. My saying you are bitter or angry about this issue is not the same as my saying you are an angry man.
You are just someone who has to deal with all the feelings involved in the ending of a marriage; good and bad.

So go back and read your profile and let it be a snapshot of who you are... when you are ready to offer positive stuff (without being encumbered by the relatively recent past) to a relationship.

Think about the reality of what you want and how to best express yourself.
What is this verbal snapshot going to convey?

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:36:27 PM   
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I felt exactly the same way.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

e reading it the first time, as it felt far too disturbing, left me fearful, and really put me off. My intuition suggests there is a lot more going on underneath your written words than you may, or may not, be aware of in regards to your personality traits.

It is just my opinion, I mean no offense, may be totally wrong, and you may think me crazy, but never have I had such a violent reaction to another's profile.



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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:37:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unshriven

quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

What bothers me is that if I didnt come to the forums .. which most people on the other side DONT ... Is not knowing who you really are and what you had posted beforehand.

That was the real you and how you veiw things and what your priorities are or were before you noticed that wasnt attracting any pussy.

Scary to think that someone might think you have a clue, when in reality ... you dont.

About the anger issue ... no one has to worry about that one there .. it will come out in your personality sooner than later when someone gets to speaking with you.

Maybe you will attract someone with an anger issue as well and you can be angry together. I love it when it all evens out in the end.


hmmm and I'm called judgmental. I'll avoid a knee jerk response and just say you're off the mark.  I think most would say that what I've posted here is incongruent with what I've written in my profile.  I believe I've said I don't write well for a non-technical audience. I never have.  I think it would be fair to say that if I didn't "have a clue" I wouldn't be here asking.  Lastly, I'm not here to "attract pussy". Getting laid is not an issue for me. (no I am not bragging) I'm here for something different not just a piece of ass.  Regardless, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write such a kind and thoughtful response, it was very helpful.

MariaB:
Yes I can see many of your points and I wanted to address a few of them. Yes I have been in the life that long (on and off) going back to the Black Rose Society's BBS.  Connecting with a submissive online is a relatively new thing for me.  I'd always met people through munches, the club and the like.  The dynamic there is much different.  I speak better than I write and am more personable in a one on one situation.  Of course I realize she's interviewing me.
I was married to my sub for many years. It stopped being a D/s relationship a few years in due to my schedule (gotta love IT), having a child in the house and various other factors.  What I didn't mention before was that I divorced this year.  I believe a lot of the angst coming out was probably bi-blow from an ugly, nasty divorce.  It's the kind of thing you don't realize at the time. Going back over my journal, I can see what you all are saying and can see the hand prints of my divorce all over it.  I also don't suffer fools well. It's a bad combination.

Someone was kind enough to take my info and re-write my profile for me.  I'm going to go over it and re-write it.  It was a very gracious act.  I'll try and add more personal info.  I think I really narrow down the type of sub/slave I'm looking for.  I don't think the 'nice guy' is compatible with the slave who wants an intense, objectified, 24/7, caged type situation. On the other side, I'm not going to get the intense emotional connection/Daddy Dom type of relationship if I want to shave her head and make her eat from a dog bowl, at least not initially.  I'll have to chew on this a while.
I thank everyone for their input.  I've taken all you've said, both good and bad, to heart.
U.





I stand by my words.
YUP-----> Im judgemental as fuck. Thats how I get by in life ... If I didnt judge people every fucking single day, I guess it would be allright to hang out and shoot the shit with every peice of shit that passed by. You may do that .. but not I. Never have, never will. And Ill judge people alllll dayyy lonngg as long as there is a breath inside me.

And now to read that you've had someone re-write your profile. Thats awesome. Now whoever is responding to your profile isnt even responding to your words or probably anything that you would ever proclaim or think in a million years.

Who the hell is looking for someone while they are going for a divorce? You must of wanted to give someone the VERY BEST of you that there is. Funny how I doubt that the person who wrote those journal entries isnt too far under the "who you are now" surface. Manipulating and I feel sorry for the person who has to find out that you are not even close to the newly (written by someone else) profile. But that all comes out in the end anyways.

I bet thats gonna be a real bummer for you.





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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:44:04 PM   
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I bet thats gonna be a real bummer for you.


But not nearly as much a bummer as it's going to be for the woman who's fooled by the profile - well until she encounters the temper.

Dusky I felt it too. Try as he (or whoever wrote the profile) might it shines through. My deepest hope is no woman finds out what's under the veneer of the profile, frankly it scares me.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:57:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fornica

I felt exactly the same way.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

e reading it the first time, as it felt far too disturbing, left me fearful, and really put me off. My intuition suggests there is a lot more going on underneath your written words than you may, or may not, be aware of in regards to your personality traits.

It is just my opinion, I mean no offense, may be totally wrong, and you may think me crazy, but never have I had such a violent reaction to another's profile.




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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 4:58:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe

quote:

I bet thats gonna be a real bummer for you.


But not nearly as much a bummer as it's going to be for the woman who's fooled by the profile - well until she encounters the temper.

Dusky I felt it too. Try as he (or whoever wrote the profile) might it shines through. My deepest hope is no woman finds out what's under the veneer of the profile, frankly it scares me.


Holy Guacamole Batman, you too? Mama mia!

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:02:42 PM   
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FR

With any luck, any prospective sub will look at his past forum posts and come across this thread (and be forewarned)

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:05:44 PM   
TheFireWithinMe


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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe

quote:

I bet thats gonna be a real bummer for you.


But not nearly as much a bummer as it's going to be for the woman who's fooled by the profile - well until she encounters the temper.

Dusky I felt it too. Try as he (or whoever wrote the profile) might it shines through. My deepest hope is no woman finds out what's under the veneer of the profile, frankly it scares me.


Holy Guacamole Batman, you too? Mama mia!


Batman comment aside yeah. At first I thought it was just a temper but there's just...something...that sets off my internal alarm. Can't put a name to it though.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:18:27 PM   
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I don't like what we've done here :(

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:20:50 PM   
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Did you copy and paste this question from your journal because you were bitching about the same thing in July?   Your journal entries are extremely negative.   You have also mentioned a number of times that you have been in the lifestyle over 20 yrs, it's a number--19 of them could have been spent online.   It sounds cocky and arrogant, and since I have more years than you do, I'd have to delete unread.  



Those journal entries are gone now.


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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:23:01 PM   
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That's what I mean. Hypothetically, if the OP did have "issues" we've collectively helped mask those :P


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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:28:05 PM   
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Hadn't thought of that. Oh hell maybe we're wrong, I certainly hope so.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:30:58 PM   
Fornica


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Well. A simple UN google search cleared that up. lol

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 5:33:24 PM   
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OP- your search might not be going so well because of the mud on your boots.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 7:18:13 PM   
Unshriven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Unshriven

quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

What bothers me is that if I didnt come to the forums .. which most people on the other side DONT ... Is not knowing who you really are and what you had posted beforehand.

That was the real you and how you veiw things and what your priorities are or were before you noticed that wasnt attracting any pussy.

Scary to think that someone might think you have a clue, when in reality ... you dont.

About the anger issue ... no one has to worry about that one there .. it will come out in your personality sooner than later when someone gets to speaking with you.

Maybe you will attract someone with an anger issue as well and you can be angry together. I love it when it all evens out in the end.


hmmm and I'm called judgmental. I'll avoid a knee jerk response and just say you're off the mark.  I think most would say that what I've posted here is incongruent with what I've written in my profile.  I believe I've said I don't write well for a non-technical audience. I never have.  I think it would be fair to say that if I didn't "have a clue" I wouldn't be here asking.  Lastly, I'm not here to "attract pussy". Getting laid is not an issue for me. (no I am not bragging) I'm here for something different not just a piece of ass.  Regardless, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write such a kind and thoughtful response, it was very helpful.

MariaB:
Yes I can see many of your points and I wanted to address a few of them. Yes I have been in the life that long (on and off) going back to the Black Rose Society's BBS.  Connecting with a submissive online is a relatively new thing for me.  I'd always met people through munches, the club and the like.  The dynamic there is much different.  I speak better than I write and am more personable in a one on one situation.  Of course I realize she's interviewing me.
I was married to my sub for many years. It stopped being a D/s relationship a few years in due to my schedule (gotta love IT), having a child in the house and various other factors.  What I didn't mention before was that I divorced this year.  I believe a lot of the angst coming out was probably bi-blow from an ugly, nasty divorce.  It's the kind of thing you don't realize at the time. Going back over my journal, I can see what you all are saying and can see the hand prints of my divorce all over it.  I also don't suffer fools well. It's a bad combination.

Someone was kind enough to take my info and re-write my profile for me.  I'm going to go over it and re-write it.  It was a very gracious act.  I'll try and add more personal info.  I think I really narrow down the type of sub/slave I'm looking for.  I don't think the 'nice guy' is compatible with the slave who wants an intense, objectified, 24/7, caged type situation. On the other side, I'm not going to get the intense emotional connection/Daddy Dom type of relationship if I want to shave her head and make her eat from a dog bowl, at least not initially.  I'll have to chew on this a while.
I thank everyone for their input.  I've taken all you've said, both good and bad, to heart.
U.





I stand by my words.
YUP-----> Im judgemental as fuck. Thats how I get by in life ... If I didnt judge people every fucking single day, I guess it would be allright to hang out and shoot the shit with every peice of shit that passed by. You may do that .. but not I. Never have, never will. And Ill judge people alllll dayyy lonngg as long as there is a breath inside me.

And now to read that you've had someone re-write your profile. Thats awesome. Now whoever is responding to your profile isnt even responding to your words or probably anything that you would ever proclaim or think in a million years.

Who the hell is looking for someone while they are going for a divorce? You must of wanted to give someone the VERY BEST of you that there is. Funny how I doubt that the person who wrote those journal entries isnt too far under the "who you are now" surface. Manipulating and I feel sorry for the person who has to find out that you are not even close to the newly (written by someone else) profile. But that all comes out in the end anyways.

I bet thats gonna be a real bummer for you.


Not so much. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The tone of your post basically renders everything you've said inconsequential. I'm not even going to read what you write.  As I've seen written here, I'm not the only person who has a problem with you. Enough said.

Duskypearls, I appreciate you going out of you way to be kind. No I'm not offended, I did want honesty. Obviously, yes I would like to know what you think. If you do figure it out what bothered you, let me know. I did ask.

Yes, looking for someone while going through a divorce was not the best idea. I've admitted that.  At the time, I couldn't see it. When you're in that situation, you lose perspective.  Obviously, it that was "who I was" I wouldn't be here now asking advice would I?

Yes my profile is a verbal snapshot of who I am 'at that time'.  It's was a temporary situation. It's not who I am now.
angelikaJ, I really appreciate your advice, your tone and way you presented it.  Someone willing to help and offer their time as you have is always appreciated.  (hope that didn't sound to rage filled LOL )

Lastly, as I said, the last few months were an odd time for me.  I found a lot of things annoying and I had a tendency to be verbal about it.  Rage/anger filled? really? Yes I was grumpy but I think the who rage posit was a bit of a stretch and I think the whole idea has taken on a life of it's own.  I think a few on here are feeding on each other and have driven the whole topic into the ridiculous. 
DesFIP said to pull my journal entries then Fornica suggests you all have colluded to hide a serial killer?  Really?

I came to ask advice, I took a lot of it. (i.e. listened to what was told to me by people who seems honestly interested)
It was suggested that I pull my journal entries, so what did I do? I pulled them.
Someone read my post (whom I've never talked to) and did a re-write and messaged me with it. That was helpful. I didn't hide anything.  It's very close to what I had before in a better format with more clarity.

And the funny thing that no one has noticed or commented on is the fact that I came here for help and from some of the people here have given me a real beating.  If I were as rage filled as some of you suggest, would I have come asking help? Would I have listened? Have I been "rage filled" in my responses? I think I've been temperate.  JanahX wrote "If I didnt judge people every fucking single day, I guess it would be allright to hang out and shoot the shit with every peice of shit that passed by. You may do that .. but not I. Never have, never will. And Ill judge people alllll dayyy lonngg as long as there is a breath inside me" and no one batted an eye. That's rage filled. I never wrote anything half as bad but it seems most of you are ok with that. Oh and janah, I didn't "have someone" write my new profile. What I got was unsolicited.

For those of  you who actually offered some advice, I appreciate it. I came here in honesty and I thank you for taking the time to help.  To the others, I hope you have the good grace to have some shame.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 7:47:02 PM   
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I hate everyone.

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RE: ok, so I'm asking...about profiles - 12/4/2011 8:34:36 PM   
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I hate everyone.


LOL ok, 10 points for honesty

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