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Orgasm Control - 12/20/2011 4:36:10 PM

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So this may be quite an open ended question, reading up on the subject there seems to be a few different ideas about the best way to do it.

I will explain what I would like advise on but first I will give some background so you can see where I am currently at with the slave I am developing. She has taken to everything I have asked her to do really well, she asks permission to cum, knows she can only touch herself with my permission (she has recently started wearing a chastity belt) and tonight I introduced the idea of keeping herself on the edge of orgasm without cumming for a period of time (using pain as a distraction).

I have read about training a slave to orgasm on command with no physical contact. There seems to be 2 different approaches 1 is using hypnosis and the other through prolonged orgasm denial training.

I was wondering if anybody has any experience with this and what method they employed as the idea sounds very appealing.

RE: Orgasm Control - 12/20/2011 4:53:11 PM

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Experienced? Yes.

By either of those methods? No.

It takes time, this isnt something you can train her to do overnight... or even in a month. I dont know about her, by denying me orgasms, after a while, has the opposite effect.... I simply lose all desire to even try.

Having her beg to cum is a good place to start. As she begs, keep her on the edge by denying her over and over for that session. But dont keep that edge raw for days, that may only serve to piss her off. When she is begging so that you know she needs to cum, not wanting but needing, then give her the command word...and immediately stop all stimulation. If she cant, allow her a moment to relax, then start again... repeating the process over and over until she is pops without any contact.

You have to get her to associate the orgasm to your voice, not to your touch. Also, something that seems to be lacking in many I speak too about this subject is that teasing has become something of the past. Teasing is fun, exciting and keeps her in a steady but low hum. I would hope I dont have to explain how to tease your woman. It doesnt have to be a concentrated effort for hours on end. While she is washing the dishes or cooking, slide up behind her and pop her on the ass (make sure she isnt holding anything breakable). If she is on the phone, a snuggle behind her and cupping a breast works wonders to distract and titillate. And text messages while you are apart are a great way to keep the excitement going. I would get text messages about having hot chocolate ready for me when I got home... because he loved how hot my hands would get giving him a massage. They dont have to be graphic, just enough for her to know exactly how sexually exciting you find her.

It can be done. And its definitely worth the work.

Good luck!

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/20/2011 5:08:02 PM

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Thanks for the advise, I was under the impression it would be a lengthy process so that doesn't concern me. It would suck if it was easy to do because most of the fun is the journey.

I will have to speak to her about it in more detail to see what she finds works for her best I do like the idea of having her beg to cum and stretching it out a little.

I love teasing, so no concerns in that department :)

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/20/2011 6:39:41 PM

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I can do it. I can also turn off any sexual thoughts for years at a time. Good luck on controlling it.

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ORIGINAL: alb10n

Thanks for the advise, I was under the impression it would be a lengthy process so that doesn't concern me. It would suck if it was easy to do because most of the fun is the journey.

I will have to speak to her about it in more detail to see what she finds works for her best I do like the idea of having her beg to cum and stretching it out a little.

I love teasing, so no concerns in that department :)

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/20/2011 9:01:12 PM

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hell you know all smokin hot bitches are different. I tell her to cum without any psychical touching, she does. I tell her not to cum and she wont. I've never had a issue with any of the girls ive been with.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/21/2011 8:48:10 AM

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If we're in the store and he whispers out of the blue "cum for me", I can't. If I'm already excited, then I sometimes can and sometimes can't. The other thing is that he has to keep working on it to keep the trigger in place. If he doesn't do it for some months, then I can't. It fades after a while.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/21/2011 8:52:05 AM

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Without some kind of physical stimulation I can't. You can tell me to cum for you all you want but it isn't going to happen without touch being involved.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/21/2011 9:09:53 AM

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For some it works, for some it will never work.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/21/2011 12:08:58 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Experienced? Yes.

By either of those methods? No.

It takes time, this isnt something you can train her to do overnight... or even in a month. I dont know about her, by denying me orgasms, after a while, has the opposite effect.... I simply lose all desire to even try.

Having her beg to cum is a good place to start. As she begs, keep her on the edge by denying her over and over for that session. But dont keep that edge raw for days, that may only serve to piss her off. When she is begging so that you know she needs to cum, not wanting but needing, then give her the command word...and immediately stop all stimulation. If she cant, allow her a moment to relax, then start again... repeating the process over and over until she is pops without any contact.

You have to get her to associate the orgasm to your voice, not to your touch. Also, something that seems to be lacking in many I speak too about this subject is that teasing has become something of the past. Teasing is fun, exciting and keeps her in a steady but low hum. I would hope I dont have to explain how to tease your woman. It doesnt have to be a concentrated effort for hours on end. While she is washing the dishes or cooking, slide up behind her and pop her on the ass (make sure she isnt holding anything breakable). If she is on the phone, a snuggle behind her and cupping a breast works wonders to distract and titillate. And text messages while you are apart are a great way to keep the excitement going. I would get text messages about having hot chocolate ready for me when I got home... because he loved how hot my hands would get giving him a massage. They dont have to be graphic, just enough for her to know exactly how sexually exciting you find her.

It can be done. And its definitely worth the work.

Good luck!

Very well said!

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/28/2011 12:30:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

It takes time, this isnt something you can train her to do overnight... or even in a month.

Using hypnosis it is something you can do overnight, if your partner is suggestible enough to go into hypnosis well and deep it takes not much more than 10-15 minutes.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/28/2011 12:23:04 PM

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We were not discussing hypnosis... and as far as hypnosis goes, as far as I recall it doesnt turn someone into a sex slave.

"This doesn't mean you become a submissive robot when hypnotized," Ray asserts. "Studies have shown us that good hypnotic subjects are active problem solvers. While it's true that the subconscious mind is more open to suggestion during hypnosis, that doesn't mean that the subject's free will or moral judgment is turned off."

http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/hypnosis.html

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RE: Orgasm Control - 12/29/2011 5:06:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

We were not discussing hypnosis...

Actually, the OP mentioned hypnosis as one of two possible methods and your answer was "no, by either of those methods".. So yes, we were also discussing hypnosis, and your statement was false as far as hypnosis is concerned.

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and as far as hypnosis goes, as far as I recall it doesnt turn someone into a sex slave.

No, it doesn't turn someone into a sex slave. But it can be used to condition people and evoke emotional and fysical states in response to an unrelated trigger (indeed, if the person is willing to accept such a suggestion). Hence, it can be used perfectly to learn to cum on command in a brief amount of time. I've seen it done in a matter of minutes.

Best,

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/1/2012 3:53:56 PM

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my Master was working on orgasm denial with me over the past couple of months in preparation for orgasm on command. unfortunately He has now released me due to some serious injuries He is recovering from and can not continue my training at this time. i am married to a wonderfully supportive, mostly vanilla man who is not very sexually active. with my training stopped and the ability to cum when ever i want, i have found what tazzygirl said to be true for me, i have lost interest in cumming without my Master's permission. i don't like the feeling but hope that if i find a Master or my former Master recovers to the point of continuing my training my desires will return. the mind is so powerful. i don't like this phase of not being aroused.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/1/2012 4:41:23 PM

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quote:

By either of those methods? No.

Meaning I was not trained by either of those methods.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/2/2012 7:03:04 AM

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No, it doesn't turn someone into a sex slave. But it can be used to condition people and evoke emotional and fysical states in response to an unrelated trigger (indeed, if the person is willing to accept such a suggestion). Hence, it can be used perfectly to learn to cum on command in a brief amount of time. I've seen it done in a matter of minutes.

I second that. With enormous amounts of pleasure.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/2/2012 7:39:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Without some kind of physical stimulation I can't. You can tell me to cum for you all you want but it isn't going to happen without touch being involved.

Egads.
I've lost me Mojo!

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/2/2012 7:43:09 AM

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*sigh*

OK, careful here kiddies.....

You say all unthinking like as you watch monday night football, "Come!" thinking you will have her get a beer and an airstart for ya, and she's in the kitchen.......splooooooooooooooosh!!!!

And thats it for the kitchen linoleum, bud.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/2/2012 7:56:03 AM

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It is possible. How he did it, I will never exactly know, but it took months.

Kinda sad, because I don't know if I can ever give my orgasms away like that again. The only thing I regret about the relationship is how long it took me to cum after we called it quits.

Good lick.

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/2/2012 7:58:06 AM

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*sigh*

OK, careful here kiddies.....

You say all unthinking like as you watch monday night football, "Come!" thinking you will have her get a beer and an airstart for ya, and she's in the kitchen.......splooooooooooooooosh!!!!

And thats it for the kitchen linoleum, bud.

That made me snort in a most unladylike way, and scared the dog!

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RE: Orgasm Control - 1/2/2012 12:53:40 PM

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Oh, if you think thats bad wait until you teach them to do it at the sound of your voice. It's horrid on the furniture, and they will never let you in at a pta meeting again.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

*sigh*

OK, careful here kiddies.....

You say all unthinking like as you watch monday night football, "Come!" thinking you will have her get a beer and an airstart for ya, and she's in the kitchen.......splooooooooooooooosh!!!!

And thats it for the kitchen linoleum, bud.

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