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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/25/2011 11:07:06 AM   
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You know LadyC... you are one I would go out of my way to avoid pissing off because you have such a witty attack mode... it can be funny, but you don't stop. You go from thread to thread attacking and I just don't need the hassles. However...

You expect people to understand your trauma with weight as a teen and even now... and bite the heads off people that have had their own... more than emotional trauma... but an actual loss of a beloved family member... simply because they didn't answer you in the manner in which you wanted. How many times have I seen you say something to the effect of... if you post a question you can't tell people how to respond and if you don't like it, too bad? Of course you were much wittier than my little paraphrase of your typical answer.

The bottom line is you touched a wound in others and they responded. If you don't like it tough shit. Take your crap attitude of some sort of specialness and have a Merry Christmas... but that was just fucking wrong.


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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/25/2011 12:23:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

@ JstAnotherSub--Hard way to lose your Mom, isn't it? Holidays are never the same anyway. Much love to you.


Is there an easy way?

Holidays are indeed changed. Mom was the centerpoint of Christmas. She got leukemia, went into deep remission. Then an unfortunate incident. A week of treating septicaemia. Then her body decided to take it on itself. Not a good idea when the cells are cancerious. Went from remission to bone marrow in her circulation in a couple of hours. Still septic and with multiple organ failure, she woke up long enough to confirm the decision to forego heroic measures and end life support. Held her hand the half hour or so it took. Doc called it at 14:40, 29th Sep 2008.

Christmas still isn't up to snuff, three years later.

She quit smoking, though. During chemo.

And she'd prolly be the first to say Constanze has every right to set her own priorities. There are some things that hold a special significance to anyone with a life, things that we value more than that life itself. It can be kids, a cause, whatever. And there are things that can take away the ability to lead a meaningful or fulfilling life. Depression can be one of those. If her past weight issues make persistent weight gain a sufficient problem to outweigh the prospect of lung cancer or the like, then there is no reason for anyone to get huffy about that. We don't share the background to gauge what she might be facing if those issues resurface. It may well be every bit as bad as cancer. And I hope it's clear I don't say that lightly.

In any case, it's already been pointed out the weight issue passes in a few months.

As such, there's every reason to assume she'll stay nicotine-free.

Health,
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Well said, true, and generous. Thanks dear.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/26/2011 5:34:04 PM   
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LC....look up H.I.I.T (high intensity interval training), get a heart rate monitor and use it when doing aerobics

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/26/2011 5:52:53 PM   
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Also remember that gaining weight doesn't mean that you're gaining fat! you might be just gaining muscle which is then a good thing!

For example, I stopped going to the gym a month ago, and I have been eating lots (I go back to my normal life in a few days so Ill go back to exercise) anyways for the first 3-4 weeks of eating and not going to the gym..I actually lost weight.

I weighted myself a few moments ago and I am back at the weight I Was a month ago..the only difference being that a month ago it most more muscle..not its more chips and chicken nuggets.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/26/2011 6:06:36 PM   
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When you stop smoking, your metabolism slows. That is not conducive to muscle gain.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/27/2011 6:59:21 PM   
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Tazzy, i don't know where you got your information but one of the best ways to speed up a slow metabolism is to build mucle.  grins, its also great for lazy people as mucles burn more calories while at rest than fat does.   I don't know what you mean that a slow metabolism isn't conducive to muscle building.  Muscles tend to help burn fat, which in turn speeds up your metabolism and helps it stablize.  A low metabolism does hinder fat burning but not mucles gaining.  All you really need for that is to break down the muscle and allow it to reheal itself which builds it up.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/27/2011 8:30:32 PM   
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Good grief, my s key must be sticking yes i know how to spell muscles lol


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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/27/2011 8:40:35 PM   
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Hi LadyC....

I quit smoking many years ago....and did gain some weight but it did level off. My issue was that I quit drinking at the same time, so while I wasn't consuming beer calories, I switched to sugar and coffee, so that probably didn't help things.  I'd give yourself about 6 months to a year, depending on your metabolism, and do all the healthy living habits that you know you need to do.

Congrats on quitting....it's hard but totally worth it.  My grandfather had lung cancer from years of chain smoking--I've never known anyone who got a benefit from smoking that outweighed the inevitable effects.   you also might find that it makes you a bit less tolerant of people , esp. those that annoyed you before...which is a nice way of saying....you will likely be irritable and short-tempered for a bit after you quit .... this levels off too.....

And even though you didn't ask....I thought notsosweet's suggestion wasn't a bad one.  Having an open pack within grasp is just a lot of temptation.  It's like having beer in the fridge when you're trying to quit drinking.  I had to ditch my cigs (I gave them away--I couldn't bear to flush them) because it was just too easy to light one up again.

good luck, keep it up...and I hope your friend is doing better...



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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/27/2011 8:46:25 PM   
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I remember reading a long time ago (don't remember where or even if it's accurate or not) that a woman's metabolism changes every ten years or so.
That seems to be the general rule with me. In my 20's I could eat anything and everything and not ever gain an ounce.
Once my 30's hit...I gained just looking at food.
My 40's suck because I don't even need to look at food, just think about it and I gain.
I need to lose about ten pounds and it has proven to be one of the hardest things to do. It just doesn't want to come off.
Add in the return to normal of your metabolism ( based on Tazzy's link) caused by quitting smoking and lit seems that in order to lose you have to work even harder.
I think our bodies are designed to hold onto weight as we age.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/27/2011 9:13:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Tazzy, i don't know where you got your information but one of the best ways to speed up a slow metabolism is to build mucle.  grins, its also great for lazy people as mucles burn more calories while at rest than fat does.   I don't know what you mean that a slow metabolism isn't conducive to muscle building.  Muscles tend to help burn fat, which in turn speeds up your metabolism and helps it stablize.  A low metabolism does hinder fat burning but not mucles gaining.  All you really need for that is to break down the muscle and allow it to reheal itself which builds it up.

angel


The act of quitting smoking lowers the metabolism. That act alone will not cause an increase in muscle mass, thereby increasing weight, which is what my point was was in reference too.

quote:

Also remember that gaining weight doesn't mean that you're gaining fat! you might be just gaining muscle which is then a good thing!


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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/27/2011 9:58:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I remember reading a long time ago (don't remember where or even if it's accurate or not) that a woman's metabolism changes every ten years or so.
That seems to be the general rule with me. In my 20's I could eat anything and everything and not ever gain an ounce.
Once my 30's hit...I gained just looking at food.
My 40's suck because I don't even need to look at food, just think about it and I gain.
I need to lose about ten pounds and it has proven to be one of the hardest things to do. It just doesn't want to come off.
Add in the return to normal of your metabolism ( based on Tazzy's link) caused by quitting smoking and lit seems that in order to lose you have to work even harder.
I think our bodies are designed to hold onto weight as we age.


Because as we age we get colder easier so we need the extra weight to keep warm?

That sounds like a good story....I think I will stick it. 

You know Aileen, they say that sex burns a lot of calories if you do it right.  Maybe you need to do it more?

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 5:27:43 AM   
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Sorry Tazzy, you still lost me, the act of smoking also doesn't increase muscle mass.  However, if you work out, and you weight lift it will in fact increase muscle mass whether you are smoking or have stopped smoking.  If she is exercising more to attempt to keep her weight from increasing, she could very well be increasing her muscle mass, since she has stopped smoking.

And muscle does weigh more than fat so on the scale you will see an increase in numbers.  Measurements and measurement of body fat will be the actual indication of whether or not muscle is gained.

It could be she hasn't gained fat either but because the change in her body she may be retaining more water.  Just because the scale goes up doesn't mean you have gained fat necessarily.   People have to somehow get 3500 calories before they actually gain a pound.  So when your body fluctuates 3-7 lbs in a couple days it would mean you actually somehow kept an extra 10,500-24,500 calories within a couple days.  Sorry but that really isn't possible unless you are gorging yourself and then even then it would take a lot.  The op seems very diligent about what she is eating so it may not be fat she is gaining..

angel

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 5:30:40 AM   
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Your metabolism does slow down as you age, not only because of age but because your activity level many times drops and people don't realize it.  Your body starts to ache more, or you have other issues that creep up on you so you (this is a general you btw) actually aren't as active as you once were or you are compensating in your activity that lessens same.  Also, as you age, your hormones start getting wacky which also effects how your body metabolizes things.

Metabolism is a funny thing, you need a combination of good eating, exercise and yes maintaining or gaining muscle mass to keep it healthy.  It is a hard thing to bring back into sinc, once it's out of wack.

angel

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 8:36:09 AM   
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Nor did I say she gained fat. Just that it is extremely unlikely she gained that much muscle mass after her metabolism slowed down.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 8:54:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

You're right. My mother was fairly thin when she died of lung cancer this past May.

And aren't you a charming little thing. Sorry I offered help. Go lose a lung.

edited for typos, but really...why fucking bother?


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Wow, just wow.


Exactly to both posts above.

LadyC, what you said was the most insensitive post I've read in a VERY LONG time not to mention plain fucking stupid.

Go lose a lung, I've got nothing for you.


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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 9:30:36 AM   
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When I stopped a few yrs back within 3 months I was 30 lbs heavier & felt like shit. it hurt my knees & back. I was working at a manual job so I was still active, a yr later I was 50 lbs heavier, I thought fuck this & started tabbing up again 6 months later the weight was gone. I'll take the big c over a random heart attack. That was my decision.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 9:42:08 AM   
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Nicotine is a stimulant, so it takes awhile for your body to get used to not having that stimulant. You are a very slender person, just take a deep breath already! Rearrange what you do and make sure you are eating ENOUGH calories, remember that the body goes into starvation mode when it is not fed properly and then hangs on to it all.



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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 9:45:52 AM   
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tabbing up


Google and Urban Dictionary have nothing for this, but from your context I assume you mean smoking?

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 9:46:07 AM   
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Slender ye gods woman I'm 17 stone! Hitting 20 stone aint fun.

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RE: Question to ex smokers - 12/28/2011 10:05:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

Slender ye gods woman I'm 17 stone! Hitting 20 stone aint fun.



Sassmonkie!! I meant LadyC and you well know it!

Why y'all use rocks as units of measurement is baffling. Especially FOURTEEEEEEN pound rocks.

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