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slvemike4u -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 4:27:13 PM)

If you haven't been able to ascertain my position by now.....than I just can't help ya pal.




Rule -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 4:50:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR
I just saw this on the news. The kid had a PELLET gun....hardly a lethal weapon.

Easy enough to know that in hindsight, a different thing if it is aimed at you from a distance.


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR
I just saw this on the news. The kid had a PELLET gun....hardly a lethal weapon.

Did the police have any way of knowing that? Do you think they should have waited until he shot at a couple of kids to see if the bullets were dangerous first?

Yes. He might not have shot. Or he might have missed purposely.

And being fired at from a distance runs less lethal risk than being fired at from nearby. So the best the police could have done would have been to run away.

Also, a police officer's best defense is to be unarmed. People are less likely to shoot at unarmed officers.




servantforuse -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 4:57:36 PM)

A police officers best defense is to be unarmed . You must be joking..




Politesub53 -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:05:00 PM)

"Also, a police officer's best defense is to be unarmed. People are less likely to shoot at unarmed officers."

Even in the UK where few officers are armed, this isnt the case.




tazzygirl -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:17:24 PM)

Cops would be mowed down if not for their guns.

A salt lick is needed for this one, fellas.




mnottertail -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:18:36 PM)

I could see them investing in some tranq guns though for some situations.




Owner59 -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:20:50 PM)

This happens with toy guns, every once in a while.

IMO,toy guns and replica guns ,pellet shooting or fake,should be only made with neon orange or neon green plastic.

This is a tragedy that was possibly preventable.Some aren`t though.




punisher440 -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:24:47 PM)

While we can sit here and say if the police had only done this,he'd still be alive.But people like you too readily forget things like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westside_Middle_School_massacre has happened before.If it had been one of your kids these 2 were aiming at,would you rather have had a policeman shoot them first if the cops had the chance or wait and see what might happen?I know my choice and it isn't for the police to not do their job by running away.




MrRodgers -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:27:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

This happens with toy guns, every once in a while.

IMO,toy guns and replica guns ,pellet shooting or fake,should be only made with neon orange or neon green plastic.

This is a tragedy that was possibly preventable.Some aren`t though.

Didn't Calif. ban toy guns ? Seems I remember a Carlin bit from a bit on that. Real guns are legal, toy guns are banned...in Cal.

Well hey, nothing worse than being shot and killed while really being unarmed. (toy) It's ok though if you are.




servantforuse -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:28:33 PM)

It would also be my choice to have the police armed when they are needed. Maybe Rule would also like SWAT teams be unarmed.




mnottertail -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:29:25 PM)

What the fuck is wrong with a good swat in the behind?




Owner59 -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 5:39:13 PM)

Yuk yuk yuk.....[8|]....[:D]




DesFIP -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 6:27:17 PM)

At that age we took my son to a big paintball tournament and he picked the damn thing up while in the car, where it looked to all passerbys as if he had a real gun. Stomping on brakes, threatening to confiscate the thing and miss the tournament if he didn't put it back in the bag for the rest of the ride. He seriously believed a cop could tell through a car window that it was paintball.

I blame the parents for allowing him this on the street.




Rule -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 7:19:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse
It would also be my choice to have the police armed when they are needed. Maybe Rule would also like SWAT teams be unarmed.

No. But such forces can shoot by mistake innocents too.




peppermint -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 7:29:29 PM)

Fifteen year olds tend to believe they are bullet proof and will never die. Heck, 20 somethings often feel the same. It's an awful tragedy, but hardly the fault of the police who only did what they were forced to do.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 7:43:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

An armed 8th grader in Brownesville Texas was shot and killed by LEO when he pointed his weapon in their direction.
Shocking in oh so many ways.


Contrary to most, I support LEO's.  Most have no concept of a day in the life (nor do I).

And I'm thankful I don't....and for them.




DarqueMirror -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 10:05:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
I don't know Tazzy...tragic to me is anytime a 15 year old leaves his house to go off to school.....and doesn't make it back.


Not making it back through no fault of his or her own would be tragic. Not making it back as a result of his own, stupid action is called Darwin's law.




DarqueMirror -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 10:08:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
I could see them investing in some tranq guns though for some situations.


They had those, they were called tasers. People complained about the use of the "less lethal" option, so this is what we end up with.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 10:11:06 PM)

Doesn't anyone else see the words '15 year old' and '8th grade' together and wonder WTF?




DarqueMirror -> RE: Police in Brownesville Texas shoot 8th grader (1/4/2012 10:16:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Doesn't anyone else see the words '15 year old' and '8th grade' together and wonder WTF?


I did. I was in 8th grade at 13. In 8th grade at 15... aiming a (pellet) gun at a cop... the kid was not a candidate for MENSA, that's for sure.




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