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Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:17:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why do people assume someone's ability to write, type, spell, use punctuation, ect, are indicative of intelligence?

Could it be that people can be smart yet not write very well?

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:20:54 PM   
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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:26:12 PM   
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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:26:43 PM   
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Why do people assume someone's ability to write, type, spell, use punctuation, ect, are indicative of intelligence?

Could it be that people can be smart yet not write very well?


I don't consider poor spelling unintelligent, but, in these days of spellcheck, I find improper English to be impolite, perhaps even a smidgen rude for the following reasons:
1-It's on the communicator to communicate effectively and
2-Using improper spelling, grammar etc.. basically tells the reader that the writer doesn't give a shit enough to try and create a good impression. (And yeah, sometimes that cat is me)


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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:27:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's very possible for someone to be intelligent and not a good writer but it is highly unlikely that a person who writes impeccably is riding the short bus.

Don't get me started on "TXT SPK" I automatically deduct 15 IQ points when I see it and 30 if they defend their use of it.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:37:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		HillWilliam brings up a good point.

I would say a combination of spelling and grammatical errors would denote someone of lowered intelligence. Either way, until proven otherwise, I assume as much of a person that can't spell or use proper words. It's a personal standard, and one I'm quite happy with.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:38:15 PM   
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Why do people assume someone's ability to write, type, spell, use punctuation, ect, are indicative of intelligence?

Could it be that people can be smart yet not write very well?

I know some very wonderful, smart, creative and compassionate people who do not write well.




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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:42:28 PM   
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(And yeah, sometimes that cat is me)


LOL

Im very glad to see someone else own up to it. Sometimes I am just too lazy. I try to catch spelling errors, but often I could care less about things like apostrophes.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:47:33 PM   
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I would say a combination of spelling and grammatical errors would denote someone of lowered intelligence.


You are entitled to your beliefs. However, its also possible the person realizes its just a message board.

I often see people complaining about someone's intelligence level displayed in a post and it makes me think... "Just how the hell do you know how smart, or dumb, someone is by the written word?"

There are programs that correct spelling, have added thesauruses ...

This one

http://www.englishsoftware.org/

Will even check for those pesky dangling modifiers.

How do you know how intelligent someone is by posts? They could be utilizing such a program... and be dumber than a box of rocks.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 9:58:15 PM   
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(And yeah, sometimes that cat is me)


LOL

Im very glad to see someone else own up to it. Sometimes I am just too lazy. I try to catch spelling errors, but often I could care less about things like apostrophes.


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In my defense, I'm super ADD as well as dyslexic so I kinda have a reason for my errors, but that still doesn't excuse them. Mostly it comes because I read so much as a kid I never really learned the finer rules of grammar, but rather learned English idiot savant style.
Course, the fact that I can, and do, at least take the effort to try gives me a whole lot less sympathy for those who don't...


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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:21:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		If all you have to judge someone by is their written words then you must judge their written words.

It's easy to judge.


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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:25:10 PM   
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How do you know how intelligent someone is by posts? They could be utilizing such a program... and be dumber than a box of rocks.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:32:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the hallmarks of intelligence is the ability to clearly and effectively communicate.  We live in an age were there is no excuse for grammatical and typographical errors (beyond those that are typos.)  Collarme even goes so far as to underline words that it thinks are misspelled.  Everyone on this site is assumed to be at least eighteen years old.  As such one can assume that the majority of them have completed, at the very least, high school.  As such basic spelling errors and grammatical errors should be easily spotted and corrected. 

When I read a profile and the author constantly misuses "their," "there," "your," "you're" or other similar words I tend to leave the profile, regardless of how much it may interest me. 

Perhaps I am being a bit of a snob, but the ability to write cogently and speak properly are indicative of a sharp mind, in my opinion, and as such profiles or people lacking in those abilities are turn-offs to me. 

Of course my mother is a Technical Writer and taught ESL when I was growing up, so that might have had a profound influence upon me.  The daily beatings with a dictionary also affected me.  (I am only kidding.  There were no beatings.)




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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:33:54 PM   
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Again....

How do you know how intelligent someone is by posts? They could be utilizing such a program... and be dumber than a box of rocks.


See, now it's a reading comprehension issue. I could re-post what I said in italics as well... but then I'd have to call myself an idiot for it.


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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:35:28 PM   
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Again....

How do you know how intelligent someone is by posts? They could be utilizing such a program... and be dumber than a box of rocks.


Perhaps they are using such a program.  However I don't hold that against them.  They are obviously smart enough to realize a deficiency and utilize a mechanical (well electronic) aid to overcome it.  This is hardly different from using spell check or a calculator. 

When all we have to judge the person on is their words then those words take on a great importance.  Those words are how they choose to present themselves to the Collarme community.


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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:36:00 PM   
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If all you have to judge someone by is their written words then you must judge their written words.

It's easy to judge.



Do you judge the writing or the words? ETA: In other words, what they say, or how they say it?

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:48:23 PM   
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Do you judge the writing or the words? ETA: In other words, what they say, or how they say it?

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I judge content - what are they saying, as opposed to how are they saying it?

There's always the idea that if someone is using a program to help write, perhaps they're taking their message boarding a little too seriously.

Sure, misuse of your vs. you're, there, they're and there, etc., bug me a little, but if the ideas the person is expressing are impressive to me, I don't care about the writing details.


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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 10:57:17 PM   
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I judge content - what are they saying, as opposed to how are they saying it?

There's always the idea that if someone is using a program to help write, perhaps they're taking their message boarding a little too seriously.

Sure, misuse of your vs. you're, there, they're and there, etc., bug me a little, but if the ideas the person is expressing are impressive to me, I don't care about the writing details.


I guess I judge both, but the content gets more weight.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/9/2012 11:04:59 PM   
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If all you have to judge someone by is their written words then you must judge their written words.

It's easy to judge.



Do you judge the writing or the words? ETA: In other words, what they say, or how they say it?

pam


Honestly, (imo) we have to use both. When written media is all we have, then that's what we have to go on.

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RE: Intelligence vs writing - 1/10/2012 12:27:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think those who are concerned about using good grammar and spelling skills show not only that they have a certain modicum of respect for others, but themselves as well. Even if they use spellcheck or some other program, at least that shows respect for how they communicate with others.

If it wasn't such a big deal, grammar and spelling would never be a part of school curriculum.

As for intelligence? No, it doesn't prove that you are a rocket scientist, a brain surgeon, or a grocery checker.
But it DOES show you are smart enough to care.



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