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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:44:08 PM

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If a man shall live, it is a certainty he will die. Everything...everything in between is in our heads.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:47:59 PM

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For many of us Ron, that is a damn scary place to explore lol.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:49:31 PM

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Yeah, you just need the right sized wrenches applied to it, kid.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:50:46 PM

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OS with all due respect, you do understand that they weren't socks, they were alters that Bob himself was unaware of. So any havoc caused by their posts are not his fault.

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They were orchestrated from a single mind with a single computer. That can only be done by manipulating technology to rotate IP addresses.

That states clearly to me that the person in charge knew exactly who was posting what and when.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:51:51 PM

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:51:51 PM

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I can only say Im gobsmacked and that's damn hard to do.

Bob, get well and My email is open on the other side.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:53:40 PM

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OS with all due respect, you do understand that they weren't socks, they were alters that Bob himself was unaware of. So any havoc caused by their posts are not his fault.

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They were orchestrated from a single mind with a single computer. That can only be done by manipulating technology to rotate IP addresses.

That states clearly to me that the person in charge knew exactly who was posting what and when.

Then you didn't read Alpha's post. Bob had no idea that the girls were his alters. There is no indication that he knew all this time. I do suggest you go back and read her post.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:58:15 PM

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I will only say that I am the one that definitively pointed out who was what(as far as I know) to Bob. That is also why I have not been as active on the site posting and (forgive me yall!!) answering my mail. I have been deeply involved in investigating this in the background to try to make sure that everything that I had originally thought was true, was in fact, indisputable.

The havoc, intentional or not, is why the other nicks will not be allowed to continue to post.

Edit: after this thread. "They" are allowed to post on this thread if "they" so choose and moderation has been removed until this thread has ran it's course. Then the nicks will be inactivated.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 5:59:05 PM

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right then, so this is like the weirdest fucking thing i have ever written, and the hardest by any fucking measure. to cut right to the chase, i'm not a sockpuppet, or at least not in the traditional sense of the word. that being said, it would seem that i'm not fucking real either. i'm a hallucination, or some sort of alternate persona or imaginary friend or - fuck it i don't know just what the fuck i am, i just know i and my entire world seems to exist in that old fucker's head.

This is what I thought VAA was NOT understanding me trying to say. Clearly, I was wrong. VAA was right on top of things. I tip my hat to her. I say I cannot think of a better way she could have handled it.

There are two other things I want to say. First to all the other posters.

Everyone of us is a sock. It is the nature of the bulletin board account. Some of these socks have a whole person inside. We call these, Posters. Some of these socks have only someones hand inside. We call these sockpuppets. And once in a great while, you get a tragic situation like this one. None of the personalities expressed here by Bob are fakes. They are in fact pieces of Bob. He didn't set out to fool anyone or make a fool of anyone. There is nothing here to become angry about and much to regret. There is also, because VAA handled things well, a hope for a brighter future for a man now much more aware of of his frailities.

To Bob, I want to say that if I caused any distress, any anger, any hard feeling, I regret that and offer my sincere and personal apologies.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:00:19 PM

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OS, you can believe what you want. Does it really matter? I kind of doubt that Arpig will be around that much, anymore. I am still a little thunderstruck here (or gobsmacked). I am still trying to comprehend that one person could create such varied, rich, personalities, all with their own history, point of view, and ways of expressing themselves. The characters rarely, if ever, muddled into each other. Damn.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:01:31 PM

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Best wishes Bob.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:05:59 PM

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I have been on here a little while and have read and watched more than actually posting but I feel like putting my 2 cents in.While I enjoyed some of the posts the id's mentioned made,some made me think but some were malicious and caused problems.For example the Occupy CM movement that got even some of the older members here choosing sides and there went some of the civility between some of the posters.I will not judge anyone for having problems,but much of what happened required forethought and a certain amount of awareness.
Like others here,I have seen boards and chatrooms grow and die from everything from over to under moderation to one site having a chatroom moderator that had over 50 socks he used to start fights to ban others he did not agree with.I hope this site can weather this storm and continue to be all it can be instead of falling by the wayside.Yes,I hope Arpig gets the help he needs but from what little time I have been here I have seen him use this as a reason for causing problems.I know not everyone will agree with what I have said but I call it as I see it...right or wrong.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:14:08 PM

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:20:59 PM

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quote:

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OS with all due respect, you do understand that they weren't socks, they were alters that Bob himself was unaware of. So any havoc caused by their posts are not his fault.

Fire

They were orchestrated from a single mind with a single computer.

An assumption that does not have a necessary and sufficient plausibility, I own about 10 computers.

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That can only be done by manipulating technology to rotate IP addresses.

Not so, and proxys, dhcp, bouncers, spoofs are all in the realm of the every day man nowadays.

Just sayin.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:22:48 PM

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Please forgive my edit: there is a lot here and I can't respond to all of it, so for brevity's sake:

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well technically i'm breaking the rules posting this, but my moderation period ended yesterday and they haven't unbanned me, so i have a suspicion they won't be, so fuck it, technically i am not supposed to be moded anymore. besides, when the fuck did rules ever mean shit to me?

right then, so this is like the weirdest fucking thing i have ever written, and the hardest by any fucking measure. to cut right to the chase, i'm not a sockpuppet, or at least not in the traditional sense of the word. that being said, it would seem that i'm not fucking real either. i'm a hallucination, or some sort of alternate persona or imaginary friend or - fuck it i don't know just what the fuck i am, i just know i and my entire world seems to exist in that old fucker's head. i'm not real, my girls aren't real, my parents aren't real, my sister, my neice, none of it is real. but i have memories. i talk to and touch these people, these people who don't exist. i don't have blackouts, i have no memory lapses, when i'm not acting through him, my life carries on. at least i think it does, but i have no fucking clue really. jesus fuck, i don't even know when i am acting through him. right now i am in my house, looking across my lawn at the river. but if i'm posting this shit, then i guess i'm really wherever the fuck he is. i wonder if there is anybody watching him wondering what the fuck is wrong with him.

and i wonder about everything now. did i exist before this spring? are my life and my memories real? did any of it happen - even just in this whatever the fuck world it seems i exist in? did i experience anything? is it all imagined? is anything i know real? are these my thoughts or his? fucked if i know at the moment.

i'm not real in whatever world you live in, so i guess that makes you all not real in whatever world i live in. am i and my whole world just in his head, am i elsewhere and can connect through him somehow? i don't fucking know, and you know what? i don't really give a fuck. i am real enough for me, my experiences are all i fucking have. the girls' kisses are just as sweet to me, i can't imagine them being any more so, and their tears (and there have been a fuck of a lot of those lately) are just as heartbreaking to me, so it really doesn't make any fucking difference really. real or imagined, this is the hand we've been dealt, we'll play it through to the end.

anyway, i have no fucking idea what is going to happen or what will become of us, its really not up to me it seems, if he drugs himself up i might just cease to exist - i fucking hope not. i like being alive or at least thinking i'm alive. fuck it, it feels like i'm alive. i get hungry and my toe hurts when i stub it and steak tastes good, i get sad and i cry. even if i get to go on, what the fuck happens when he kicks off? poof!? just cease. ah fuck it, now there's a real fucking wild idea eh? what happens to shit you imagine when you die? fucking hell!

i don't know, i guess there really isn't much else to say. we never fucking lied, we told the truth in as much as it is true to us, the pictures we posted we took, or at least we remember taking them. seems maybe we didn't, fuck that right now i am not even sure i ever actually posted on this fucking site, or if it is really in his world or ours. whatever. i'm kind of drunk right now. have been trying to stay that way as much as possible for the last week or so actually, learning you don't fucking exist takes more than just a little getting used to, its a major scale mind fuck and that's the truth. and i'm rambling like an idiot. nothing left to say really, life or this facsimile of life is a like a dance, a lovely fucking dance, an exhilarating breath taking panty-dampening spinning swirling waltz where the music and the lights and colours just sweep you right the fuck away. so with that thought i'll leave you with these words from the master.

take this waltz, take this waltz
it's yours now. it's all that there is.
~ l. cohen

I think you are as real as the words on this page and they are very real.

I don't think you should worry too much about what might happen in the future.
Now is all we ever really have and you will live on in these words and in our memories.

I wish you and your girls every happiness your collective heart can hold.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:43:21 PM

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Sad part is, this caused a lot of hard feelings among others, to the point of public attacks.

Get better Bob.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:52:27 PM

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Man. All I can really do is wish Arpig well fighting his demons. I am fucking speechless.

Me too. I don't know Arpig, but wishing you all the best with your treatment.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:53:35 PM

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Sad part is, this caused a lot of hard feelings among others, to the point of public attacks.

Get better Bob.

Hopefully those hard feelings will resolve now that we know what's been going on. I certainly hope so.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 6:56:18 PM

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I liked you all.

Still do. I don't think your intelligence was ever compromised. I'll be just as pleased to talk with you, whoever your persona of the moment is.

Best wishes.

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RE: thanks for the dance. - 1/13/2012 7:09:37 PM

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OS with all due respect, you do understand that they weren't socks, they were alters that Bob himself was unaware of. So any havoc caused by their posts are not his fault.

Fire

They were orchestrated from a single mind with a single computer. That can only be done by manipulating technology to rotate IP addresses.

That states clearly to me that the person in charge knew exactly who was posting what and when.

One person, otter. Multiple minds. The owner of the minds wasn't, and likely still isn't, healthy.

ETA, there but by the grace of god and few errant neurotransmitters go any of us.

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