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xxblushesxx -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:05:01 PM)

I re-read what she said. She didn't say that *you* sent her any mail at all. She said she's getting rude messages from men who call themselves doms.



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:05:07 PM)

Well I'm dutch we have a little more respect for prostitutes perhaps, since it's a legal profession here.
And yes there really are john's who pay just to talk. You don't have to believe it.
Just like I don't have to agree with idle philosophy that almost everyone "prostitutes" themselves in a way. I am not of that sort of school. This kind of method is devised to debunk proper argumentation.



MissImmortalPain -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:06:08 PM)

You made a comment about the use of language when I used it correctly. If you don't like me pointing the same remark at you than don't point it at others. You then went on to try to insult me by comparing me to your ex...am I supposed to care what you ex is like? Then you put words in my mouth by saying I insulted your mother...which I did not do unless you mean I did it by grouping her in with humans. As for a fruit being a fruit...I agree with you. Infact had you not decided to say I was wrong you might have understood that I do view prodomming as a form of prostitute. I also view anyone that gets paid for a job they don't like as a prostitute. I would comment on the nature of greed but you didn't aim that comment at me. I will ask again that you do not put words in my mouth that I have not said, or assume that you know how I think when it is clear that you do not.



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:18:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: QueenLuna

Well, since everyone is entitled to opinions, even if that isn't my cup of tea...Lets say findomme is prostitution. Hypothetically. What are you going to do about it? There going to keep sending money and i'm going to keep spending it. The real question is why more Domme's, especially, Fin Domme's don't raid this forum with more posts complaining about the rude and malicious messages sent from Dom's. Or the general disregard for our personal sovereignty in this realm of kink, no,


I don't care what you have to say and don't find you attractive; so stop sending messages it goes in the same spam box as all the other whimpering wanking men.
OK could be but it clearly says YOU not them. If it is a genuine miscommunication I am sorry to have called you a liar. But do know this, other people would have read it like I read it. I do make an effort to keep my argumentation clean of misunderstandings. And again if you're makin money genuinly, big up for you.
Most women dominate their men financially anyway, nothing to do with bdsm.
I just have a general dislike for people using bdsm solely for financial gain.
I dislike the downright greed that affects most people these days and defiles the ground we walk on.
Just call yourself a prodomme do your thing, keep it real. Fin dommes got a bad rep.
And that won't really ever change. Just look at the threads, it's not just me.



NibbyJibby -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:33:29 PM)

I do not know and make no claim to know, but i do very much suspect i have enjoyed a diversity of experiences more varied than most. As such i do not judge, but also it is not my habit to judge. I do not see my political or other viewpoints as being more righteous than another. All i can do is seek, discover and create my own awareness and experience... to find my strengths and convictions from such. A closed mind to me conveys a stubborn, ignorant or weak individual and on rare occasion a combination of all three.

I strongly believe many who profess to want further information sincerely do... but for what purpose! I would venture most are not open minded enough to accept it at face value and to be without entrenched bias. An entrenched mind is seldom a open mind. A few I suspect genuinely want greater insight and to understand, but most do not. Most seek fodder to feed upon. You are prudent and correct in Your decision and especially on a open forum. Truth of the matter is, to be open in providing further information shall not result in changed opinions. For some perhaps it creates a greater awareness and for others not. Regardless what would it achieve.... very little of substance. Such generosity of self will only return You grief and frustration tenfold. Sad to say, but true.

Bottom line is if there is not a respect , acceptance or understanding... further information will change nothing. The mindset that presents itself speaks for itself. More prudent and logical to convey information on a individual basis with those You deem to be sincere, open minded and worthy.



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:34:07 PM)

"I also view anyone that gets paid for a job they don't like as a prostitute."

Ok I class that as an opinion thats nul and void.
It's like saying a disgruntled constructionworker is like a banker. It holds no ground in finding the truth
Why I compared you to my ex is because she told me the same thing sort of. She thinks all women fuck for money. And I think that's a pretty depressing worldview.
It does not do anything to clarify the point on pure findom.
It is a new trend on here. I wouldnt ever class myself like that.
If you are real what I believe, it's beneath you.
And yes I made a little joke bout mi mum to warn you what kind of road I can take when you start argumenting like that.



xxblushesxx -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:36:46 PM)

Many of us use bdsm not only for financial gain, but it's because it's what we love.
You don't know what's in another's heart.
But you seem to assume.



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:42:38 PM)

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I do not see my political or other viewpoints as being more righteous than another
Can you really uphold this sentence in general?

So let's say someone tells you he thinks dictatorship is better then democracy.
Ah forget it. This will bring us off topic.
I said my piece and its pretty clear where and how I stand on this now.
You all have a nice evening
Thanks for the replies, it showed me something and it determined my stand.



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:49:33 PM)

For the last time a lot of prodommes are genuine professionals.
Findommes are not professional.
Pros work for money
Fins don't work.
There is always a difference.
That is how many people assume it.
and why make it hard when there is an easy difference.
It would make it easier for all those slaves to pick the right domme.
But maybe its potetoe potatoe.
I like clear differences,
fuck the grey area thats my stand.



xxblushesxx -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:58:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBukani

"I also view anyone that gets paid for a job they don't like as a prostitute."

Ok I class that as an opinion thats nul and void.
It's like saying a disgruntled constructionworker is like a banker. It holds no ground in finding the truth
Why I compared you to my ex is because she told me the same thing sort of. She thinks all women fuck for money. And I think that's a pretty depressing worldview.
It does not do anything to clarify the point on pure findom.
It is a new trend on here. I wouldnt ever class myself like that.
If you are real what I believe, it's beneath you.
And yes I made a little joke bout mi mum to warn you what kind of road I can take when you start argumenting like that.



Excuse me then, but after saying that, why in the world would you consider a findom a prostitute? I told you we do not fuck for money (excuse my crudeness) nor do we do sexual acts or favors for money.



MissImmortalPain -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 5:59:52 PM)

So you can void my opinion because you have a different one? Cool you just gave me a real reason to say your opinion doesn't count for diddly. See I was willing to hear you out. I even actually had a few things I wanted to ask you. But because you don't seem to want to hear any opinion other than you own there is no real point in talking to you is there?

As for you ex...I disagree with her, not that you more than likely actually care. And I assure you I am very real, but you do not know me and your opinion as to what it beneath me matters no more to me than my opinion of you matters to you.

*oh* and just so you know I was a findom to someone that lived in my home for five years. You might, in the future, want to point out that you have a problem with the internet.



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:06:12 PM)

And you are sure the recipient doesnt get off on it sexually either?
I mean a phonesex operator doesnt fuck either but renders a sexual service.
It all comes down to the question if bdsm originally is sexrelated or not.
Simple.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:07:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Pros work for money
Fins don't work.


Is this what you believe?



MissImmortalPain -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:07:10 PM)

Oh yeah and for the record. Does
quote:

I just have a general dislike for people using bdsm solely for financial gain.
mean you don't care for people that make porn? Sex toys? Lube? Those that sell such things, because you do understand they are doing it for financial gain, don't you?



xxblushesxx -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:09:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBukani

And you are sure the recipient doesnt get off on it sexually either?
I mean a phonesex operator doesnt fuck either but renders a sexual service.
It all comes down to the question if bdsm originally is sexrelated or not.
Simple.




What you should do is call the police and let them know that some internet findoms and some phone sex operators are prostituting themselves. You should have them arrested.



QueenLuna -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:11:24 PM)

The main consensus of this is that just like everywhere else in the world it is pointless to argue with those that are close-minded and ignorant.



NibbyJibby -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:11:47 PM)

Indeed some financial Dommes absolute do work for their money... certainly the long standing and professional financial Dommes! To invest hours of ones time is with a value. If one provides a service and mutual result of satisfaction, then doubly so! To convey otherwise one can profess and do, but seems illogical to me.



xxblushesxx -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:13:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: QueenLuna

The main consensus of this is that just like everywhere else in the world it is pointless to argue with those that are close-minded and ignorant.


You are correct. I just always have high hopes for growth. For others and for myself.
*is not always as open nor as kind as I could be*



MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:34:04 PM)

We are all bankers in a way cause most of us have money in the bank.
If you say most people have prostituted themselves cause they do something they dont like you assume any prostitute is doing it against her will. Besides the fact you try to downgrade anybody to the status of a prostitute. Cause I might hold them in pretty high regard. But most dont, do they?
So where does that leave your argument?
In relationship to findomming
Anyway there's always an exemption to the rule.
To me dominating someone's finance is wrong.
You could better call it financial caretaking, sounds a lot better or is it not dark enough for the finslave?
I say, better make a clear difference.
Cause again why would so many people start these threads.
If there is not genuine confusion about it.
To me the term reeks of greed and since bdsm is based on a lot of negative stimulation, I know for sure many abuse it for the love of money, they don't do it for the love of bdsm.
And why profile yourself in that category.  When a pro can do anything.
Just like the expert slave said, there are just a few profiling they wanna be blackmailed or findommed. Its more that he condones it to attain his own goal. To the fake findomme it is a primary goal. And they even state sometimes they dont give a fuck about their slaves.
Lots of fun in a world thats fucked up already .
Wouldnt you like things to be more clear in general, so we can all make a well informed choice?





MrBukani -> RE: Why Financial Domination Bothers Me... (1/16/2012 6:52:08 PM)

Why?
It's legal in my country




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