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calamitysandra -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/21/2012 9:17:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl If its part of your platform, its open to attack. This just about sums it up for me.

Fightdirecto -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/21/2012 3:56:16 PM)
The question I would love to hear asked, publicly, of Calista Gingrich: "As a devout Catholic, what penance, public or private, have you performed to atone for the sin of being the mistress of your present husband for several years while your present husband was still married to his second wife?" Somehow, I don't think she'll answer - but I'd love to see a video of her facial expression (and Newt's) when she was asked...

Fightdirecto -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/21/2012 4:03:34 PM)
Gingrich: Celebrating 'God, families and values' while asking for divorce quote: In 1999 Newt phoned Marianne, just diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, declaring "I want a divorce." He then proceeded to his next speaking engagement, addressing Republican women on the topic, "The Demise of American Culture," decrying the country's estrangement from "God, families and values." "He could ask me for a divorce on Monday and within 48 hours give a speech on family values and talk about how people treat people," Marianne Gingrich told James Grimaldi of The Washington Post. It's not the adultry - it's the hypocrisy. quote: We're witnessing GOP presidential candidates demand that the U.S. Constitution be amended to ban same-sex marriage, that federal money be withdrawn from Planned Parenthood clinics, and that our capital and country embrace a new "pro-family" agenda. The wake-up call comes from Marianne Gingrich, who suffered one of life's rudest awakenings. "I found out during our conversations that (the liaison) was occurring in my bedroom in out apartment in Washington," she told the Post. "He always called me at night and always ended with, 'I love you.' Well, she (Callista) was listening." Oh yes, Gingrich told soon-to-be-jettisoned wife No. 2 where soon to be acquired wife No. 3, Callista, was going to take him: "In a few years, I'm going to run for President. She's going to help me become President." It's not the adultry - it's the hypocrisy.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/21/2012 4:32:54 PM)
I have 2 stepbrothers who are related to Grover Cleveland. Newt is not fit to serve by virtue of him being a dishonorable dirtbag.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/21/2012 7:50:00 PM)
Again, just to be clear, this thread is not actually about Newt Gingrich. It is about adultery and fitness to serve. So, while I am glad there are so many people who dislike Newt, it was not my intent with this thread to discuss either Newt or hypocrisy.

Fightdirecto -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/21/2012 7:54:07 PM)
Hypocrisy IS (or should be) a disqualification for the Presidency of the United States. Gingrich is just the biggest and most obvious public example at the moment.

thompsonx -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/22/2012 3:05:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx I do not remember "raising taxes on the rich" to be part of the new deal. Go back and look at the Revenue Acts of 1935, 36 and 37. As a group, these New Deal Revenue Acts substantially boosted the tax burden on rich Americans. FDR was a supporter of redistribution of wealth. He believed that concentration of wealth in the hands of few was detrimental to the ultimate success of the country. His perspective was correct back then, and it remains correct today. The revenue acts come in his seccond term. The overwhelming majority of the increases in the income tax rate come from the. 1932 revenue bill of hoover, and his corporate profits tax was overturned almost before the ink ws dry on the original. He made a distinction between "redistribution of wealth" and the cocentration of wealth in the hands of "the few" http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/1AEBAA68B74ABB918525750C0046BCAF?OpenDocument

SilverBoat -> RE: Fitness to Serve for Public Office (1/22/2012 3:32:30 PM)
In the case of Gingrich, though, there's more to the matter than just his personal adulterous oathbreaking, because his *political* activities explicitly attacked others (Clinton, etc) for adultery and professed "family values" as part of his 'contract with America' campaign. That establishes his character and conduct as not only multiple, serial, wife-ill, etc adulterer, but as profoundly hypocritical and sociopathically manipulative. His repeated gross perjury, perhaps though not convictable on the adultery issue, because it was 'just campaign speeches), and considering that he was censured by Congress for falsifying other disclosures make him unfit to ever hold public office again. ... Unless, of course, there are voters who see political lying, maritial cheating, million-dollar insider-lobbying, etc as desirable character and conduct for *their* ballots. ...

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