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Is apologizing a sign of weakness?

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Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 9:53:15 AM

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John Wayne once said "Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness." I've heard similar sentiments expressed from time to time.

Is the sentiment the same for individuals as well as governments? Would a government apologizing for past wrongs also be considered weak?

I was always raised that apologizing is a sign of strength, as in "It takes a big man to say he's sorry." But others seem to think it's a sign of weakness, so I was just wondering what others might think about this question.

RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 9:54:43 AM

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I think that's just a justification for being a jerk. =p
Apologizing doesn't make a person weak, it means they were honest enough to say "I messed up," which takes guts sometimes.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 9:57:39 AM

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I think that people that can say I messed up, I'm sorry are stronger than the ones that won't/can't admit it and turn the blame on someone else. I will certainly respect more the person that can apologize.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 9:59:34 AM

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I'm just quoting myself here...

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I'm a dom. I'm also a man. A man who takes responsibility for his actions, his behavior, his thoughts, his words, and everything properly his.

Which is why I can say, without any hesitation or second guessing.... that I am -always- prepared to apologize when I am in the wrong. Humans tend to get a lot of things wrong, and I'm no exception to that rule.

Any man who isn't able to own up to his mistakes, failures, shortcomings, lapses in good taste, good judgment or proper decorum, accidents, "incidents" and all other manner of issues stemming from their basic humanity.... isn't able to "man up" enough to even be called a man.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 10:29:41 AM

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i'll stand my ground and fight my corner without backing down when i'm right, and if i'm big and strong enough to do that, i'm big and strong enough to admit when i get it wrong and appologise too.

everyone can mess up from time to time, it's human afterall. i just think you're a top twat if you can't say sorry for it and mean it. if that makes you feel strong then go be strong away from me before i kick you in the cunt for it.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 10:33:43 AM

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No. It is a sign of strength.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 10:55:42 AM

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Mostly, I agree with Marc. But I have known people for whom it is a habit and a weakness.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 11:03:23 AM

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If it's not being used to manipulate I think it's a sign of strength. Someone who genuinely apologizes goes up in my estimation.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 11:08:53 AM

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Is apologizing a sign of weakness?

Being a person who says what they mean and means what they say, I apologize when I'm apologetic. I'm apologetic when I've done something I shouldn't have. Therefore, for me, apologizing is a sign of having done something I shouldn't have. If that's weak, then the answer to your question is yes, but then every living person must be weak since there isn't a single person who makes no mistakes.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 11:12:14 AM

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I call that manning up and doing what's right. If I make a mistake, I own up to it, make amends and move on. I call that being a man.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 12:46:26 PM

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I suppose it depends on the reason for the apology, it's presentation, and the intent behind it.

Those of a self-denigrating nature, who apologize excessively, for no good reason, are a pain in my butt.

Those who do so to manipulate or play weak get no respect from me.

Those who do so poorly, without any true repentance, or to simply shut you up, are worthless.

Those who do so appropriately, and with good intent, are of good character.

Those who do so when they've done someone wrong or harm are honorable.

Those who have no ownership in wronging or harming another are wise enough to say, "I'm sorry YOU feel hurt/harmed/offended by what I did/said, but none of it was done with intent to hurt you." There's a difference between actually being responsible for harming another, and them feeling you've harmed them, when in fact, you have not.

To me, a truly, heart-felt, simple, apology (when appropriate and deserved) goes a long way towards earning my admiration, trust and respect. Never underestimate the value of humility.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 12:48:45 PM

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DP it's as though you peeked into my brain and stole the thoughts right out of it.

Except you wrote it much more eloquently than I was thinking it...

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 12:59:14 PM

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DP it's as though you peeked into my brain and stole the thoughts right out of it.

Except you wrote it much more eloquently than I was thinking it...

Silly me, I was probing you at the time, so I confess, it is all yours....I take no ownership of it!

PSA: My post actually belonged to LaT Lady. I sucked it out of her head, without her expressed written consent, and I'm ever SO sorry for doing so. Shame on me!

I'm thinkin' I need a hearty spanking for that.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 1:03:07 PM

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I've never done it.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 1:03:57 PM

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I'm thinkin' I need a hearty spanking for that.

To the farm!

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 1:13:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

I'm thinkin' I need a hearty spanking for that.

To the farm!

Yes, m'am, right away!

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 1:42:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zonie63

John Wayne once said "Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness." I've heard similar sentiments expressed from time to time.

Is the sentiment the same for individuals as well as governments? Would a government apologizing for past wrongs also be considered weak?

I was always raised that apologizing is a sign of strength, as in "It takes a big man to say he's sorry." But others seem to think it's a sign of weakness, so I was just wondering what others might think about this question.

Did you even bother WATCHING "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"?

You do realize that Captain Brittles advice to his younger officers is repeatedly ignored, right? And their friendships become stronger because of it.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 1:53:20 PM

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Did you even bother WATCHING "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"?

Not in a long time.

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You do realize that Captain Brittles advice to his younger officers is repeatedly ignored, right? And their friendships become stronger because of it.

Okay, but I wasn't asking about the movie.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 1:59:21 PM

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I own my fuck ups and fix them. Sometimes, all that is needed is an apology. Sometimes you have to buy a slave a present.

However, I don't apologize for who I am or what I do. If someone takes offense to my beliefs, that's their fuckin' problem not mine.

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RE: Is apologizing a sign of weakness? - 1/31/2012 2:05:16 PM

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I agree with the others who have said if you're able to admit when you're wrong it shows strength, not weakness.
I have met many people who are completely incapable of admitting when they are. or have been, wrong and I find that one of the worst weaknesses in people which I find very hard to tolerate.

I have no problem with admitting when I'm wrong, and have no problem in saying sorry, and I fully respect others who live by that rule.

It'd be great if more people could be like that, but such is life.

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