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Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 10:36:19 AM   
DrSteveB


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Status: offline 		I am relative newbie to the scene... it seems there is lots of overlapping terminology. Can anybody help give "official" definitions or at least practical distinctions:


Resistance play
Force play
Primal play
Combative erotics (erotic combat)
Wrestling
Struggle play
Play rape

I am longtime devotee of what I always just called wrestling. It seems that term is a turn-off for some, who do like whatever it is that they have in mind by some of the other terms. To me they seem very similar. Terms and boundaries seem quite important, but I am not sure I am getting it?
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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 10:41:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		My general quickie definitions:
Resistance play- not always full out fighting, could also include things like interrogation scenes or resisting giving something up

Force play- overall term for "forcing" someone to do something they will try to avoid doing

Primal play- usually involves a more energy based animalistic edge to it for the purpose of or just happening to bring out a very non-thinking just reacting edge

Combative erotics (erotic combat)- wrestling with sexual overtones

Wrestling- self explanatory to me

Struggle play- similar to resistance but not as serious

Play rape- specific type of force play

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I am longtime devotee of what I always just called wrestling. It seems that term is a turn-off for some, who do like whatever it is that they have in mind by some of the other terms. To me they seem very similar. Terms and boundaries seem quite important, but I am not sure I am getting it?


The thing is, all of those terms CAN BE and are used interchangeably.  Your best bet is to use the term you think applies most, and then when wanting to play with someone, ask them directly "What do you mean by _____?"

http://www.collarchat.com/m_336357/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#336362
Fighting back

http://www.collarchat.com/m_257243/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#257283
Fighting back for fun!

http://www.collarchat.com/m_157286/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#157426
Fighting Back

http://www.collarchat.com/m_139472/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#139477
A challenging submissive

http://www.collarchat.com/m_110661/mpage_1/key_force%252Cplay/tm.htm#110673
Force

http://www.collarchat.com/m_76392/mpage_1/key_force%2Cplay/tm.htm
The premise of forced play

http://www.collarchat.com/m_214517/mpage_1/key_primal/tm.htm#214524
Releasing the beast within

http://www.collarchat.com/m_153621/mpage_1/key_primal/tm.htm#153823
Rage


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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 10:41:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Apologies as i really can't help you but did have to say that every one of those terms made me smile and get a little hot under the bra straps lol.
*grins*

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 11:14:28 AM   
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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 11:24:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Combative erotics.

I like that, i'm gonna use that.

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 11:46:09 AM   
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I've met a few young ladys into this, it can get quite 'intense' on occassion, but rather enjoyable.


"You want me to take you, but I want you to try and stop me... It ain't going to work, but try!"


They get a wicked little glint in their eye and fight like hell, but of course they don't win.


For some it reinforces a feeling of helplessness and vulnerability that they enjoy with someone they trust as compleatly as their master.


Others just like the permission to try and beat crap outta him ;p


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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 12:26:00 PM   
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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 12:28:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Haven't found anyone worth this much energy output, but it all sounds fairly fun... *shrug*

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 12:31:43 PM   
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Nuff said.

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 12:36:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld
*pulls out soap box... quickly scans posts... looks at LA's post... kicks soap box under desk... points at LA's post*

Nuff said.

Giggling- thanks, that was sweet and made me smile.

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 12:40:56 PM   
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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 2:49:40 PM   
DrSteveB


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Status: offline 		The term "erotic combat" comes from Gloria Brame's Different Loving:


http://gloriabrame.com/diflove/section6.html#23

it may not (may) be in any sort of general use beyond her chapter headings though; lol.j

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 3:17:59 PM   
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< Message edited by NCSilverWolves -- 6/2/2006 3:20:56 PM >

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 3:20:06 PM   
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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 3:25:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read the title of the post and my knees got weak....and me without SacredDom for another day!!!  Hoping that when he comes over tomorrow night that he pins my arms back, connecting me to the ropes on the bed...

*angelface gets distracted thinking of all of the delightfully wicked ways that she might be restrained and forgets to complete typing her entry.....*

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 6:42:38 PM   
Sinergy


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Status: offline 		Interesting thread.

So I pull her close to me with a handful of her hair firmly gripped in my hand.  Twisting it to cause a bit of pain and pulling her in for a kiss.  My other arm reaches around behind her and pulls her in to me, then drops down her back carressingly until I have a hold of her hip.

I tuck my hip to the right under her center of gravity and lean over, pulling her off balance and flipping her onto the bed with a hip throw.  I then quickly climb on top of her pinning her arms out to the sides under my legs. 

She gazes adoringly, pinned and helpless, up at me from where she is pinned.

Would that be erotic wrestling, impact play, what?

Sinergy

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 6:53:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Interesting thread.

So I pull her close to me with a handful of her hair firmly gripped in my hand.  Twisting it to cause a bit of pain and pulling her in for a kiss.  My other arm reaches around behind her and pulls her in to me, then drops down her back carressingly until I have a hold of her hip.

I tuck my hip to the right under her center of gravity and lean over, pulling her off balance and flipping her onto the bed with a hip throw.  I then quickly climb on top of her pinning her arms out to the sides under my legs. 

She gazes adoringly, pinned and helpless, up at me from where she is pinned.

Would that be erotic wrestling, impact play, what?

Sinergy


I dont know what you would call that, but I'm game...  :)

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 6:55:30 PM   
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 So I pull her close to me with a handful of her hair firmly gripped in my hand.  Twisting it to cause a bit of pain and pulling her in for a kiss.  My other arm reaches around behind her and pulls her in to me, then drops down her back carressingly until I have a hold of her hip.

I tuck my hip to the right under her center of gravity and lean over, pulling her off balance and flipping her onto the bed with a hip throw.  I then quickly climb on top of her pinning her arms out to the sides under my legs. 

She gazes adoringly, pinned and helpless, up at me from where she is pinned. 


mmmmm sounds nice...I think I will give Master a call.....

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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 7:36:50 PM   
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RE: Resistance, Force, Primal, Wrestling, Play Rape, etc? - 6/2/2006 8:24:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		lol nothing like mentioning primal and such to bring on the hot flashes lol

I like um personally

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