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Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 6:50:24 PM   
Renthor


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Status: offline 		making and oops kit and wondering what you all have in your own.

Plans to get within the next few days are

Gauss
Bandaids
Superglue
latex gloves
bandage scissors
disinfectant
glucose tablets
smelling salts
acetone
burn cream
distilled water

Any questions about what or why is welcome

also any suggestions are welcome,

and the more obscure the better, if it has a safety purpose, suggest it.
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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 6:54:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Renthor

making and oops kit and wondering what you all have in your own.

Plans to get within the next few days are

Gauss
Bandaids
Superglue
latex gloves
bandage scissors
disinfectant
glucose tablets
smelling salts
acetone
burn cream
distilled water

Any questions about what or why is welcome

also any suggestions are welcome,

and the more obscure the better, if it has a safety purpose, suggest it.


Add a cell phone, for when you have to call 911.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:01:00 PM   
Renthor


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Status: offline 		Good idea, too many times has the primary phone been dead, a second emergency with charge would be a good idea, and most phones even without a plan or minutes will have 911 ability.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:08:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		ace bandages, perioxide, rubbing alcohol, antibiotic cream or gel

GAuzes for pressure points, different sizes of course.

Ice packs in the freezer or cooler.

Sutures if you're a nurse or an EMT. Dad stitched up my finger when I was 14 after a wicked cut.

I am from a family of nurses. Never had to go to the hospital or the doctor unless it was medically necessary (miscarriage, concussion, MRSA infection)

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:11:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Medical tape
Gauze & bandage material
Hemostats
Surgical gloves
Surgical scalpel and blades
Surgical suture needles
Surgical sutures
Surgical scissors
Syringes & needles, different sizes/gauges
Blister protectors
H2O2
Betadine wipes
Aspirin
Ace bandage
3 in 1 Antibiotic ointment
Tourniquet
Clove oil
Lavender oil
Birch oil
Homeopathic remedies for bleeding, shock, trauma, nerve damage, injury, bruising, food poisoning, bee sting allergy, colds, broken bones, colic, diarrhea, etc.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:27:11 PM   
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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:36:13 PM   
Renthor


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Status: offline 		Oh, a topical anesthetic would be usefull too, especially if the need arises for surgical incisions, although if cuts need to be made in the field, there might not be time for lidocaine.

but to be honest, i would also use the anesthetic for play, so going to pick that up too, despite any surgical experiance.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:38:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Key items overlooked -information and experience.
Need a good emergency medical reference book. Years ago I found "Where There Is No Doctor" (Book at Amazon). Is been said to be "perhaps the most widely-used health care manual in the world" but others may fit your specific need better. Secondly, whatever training you can get (CPR, wound care, recognizing shock, etc) advances your effectiveness dramatically. I have been 'guilty' of buying gear (fun) for various projects, but found great wisdom from others who advised that Information and Experience must be equally gathered.

Lastly, would be helpful to know more about specific emergencies you envision, number of victims and time delay for professional medical services. Interesting topic...

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:48:57 PM   
DomMeinCT


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Status: offline 		I know you had glucose tabs listed, but those can be harder for someone too weak to take, and orange juice in those sterile/stable brick packs with the little straws might be worth having.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/16/2012 7:52:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

ace bandages, perioxide, rubbing alcohol, antibiotic cream or gel

GAuzes for pressure points, different sizes of course.

Ice packs in the freezer or cooler.

Sutures if you're a nurse or an EMT. Dad stitched up my finger when I was 14 after a wicked cut.

I am from a family of nurses. Never had to go to the hospital or the doctor unless it was medically necessary (miscarriage, concussion, MRSA infection)


Sanitary napkins make great pressure bandages.

'hawk

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/17/2012 2:32:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Like ekaienoae, I'm wondering if this medical 'oops box' is specifically for mopping up accidents after you have played or a general medical box for every day incidents?
Some of the things being mentioned are dangerous in the wrong hands. The old saying, 'a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing' is very true when it comes to first aid.




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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/17/2012 11:11:43 AM   
Renthor


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Status: offline 		this is specifically with regards to play, as you are more likely to encounter a broader range of potential accidents, depending on what your kink's are. for a day to day kit a general medical kit is usually sufficient with basic wound first aid in my opinion.

and no matter how skilled or experienced we are, we are all only human so being prepared for the types of play you do is worth while :D


As for the more extreme things, such as tools for surgery, these are dangerous in the wrong hands, but it's still nifty to know who has what in their kits to get a broader understanding of who, what, and why.


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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/17/2012 11:26:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		First--I'm going to go with those who said cell phone and experience. If you don't know what you're doing....PLEASE call 911 or get to an ER or if not as urgent, a primary care clinic if open.

I was a DM for almost 20 years, work in healthcare for a living, and I volunteer (unpaid) as a 911 EMS provider.
"OOPS" in the dungeon should not be more than a bandaid/small wound dressings and a cold pack. If it is beyond that, you need to get you or your boy/sub/girl etc. to a professional. Suturing for wounds is not appropriate for the dungeon--you do not have a sterile tray, and even if you do, it's not the place to do it---chances are, if the wound is deep enough to need suturing, it should be properly irrigated first. The dungeon is no place to do that--go to an ED or a UrgentCare center and get it done there. It is simply NOT worth getting an infection.

Dusky Pearls--you know I think you're the cats meow, I adore you--but unless you are a surgeon (and who knows, maybe you are), a scalpel belongs in the hands of a doctor OUTSIDE the dungeon. They are BEYOND sharp, and the harm/damage they will do in untrained hands is far greater than whatever the top managed to do in the first place. Sutures, scalpels, syringes--these may be toys to those who "play" with them, but they can also do a world of harm.

I want you to believe me--I have seen firsthand what happens to people when those with good intentions "help"--
basic first aid should suffice in the dungeon. and if it is beyond basic first aid, it is beyond what SHOULD be done in the dungeon.

sorry if I'm on a soap box again--I would like to prevent injuries from happening in the first place

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/17/2012 1:22:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never get the soap box feeling from you Hausboy, and in fact always enjoy reading what you have to say. About the scalpel, I always thought it was like having a gun. If you don't know how to use it or what it can do, then stay away from it as it can do more harm than you can understand with just casual knowledge of what you're supposed to do with the thing. Human skin, muscle, tissue, fat, is like butter under those things and you will go much deeper than you ever intended- unless you're familiar with handling one please don't. You need to understand what you are working with and how to use it, you don't want the first time to be on a human being.

The dissections we've done were with dullish scalpels, thank goodness, the students handling them did enough damage as it was. There was always someone who would cut much too deeply without meaning too, or who would test it like a knife against their finger- sigh. It's a deceptive tool.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/17/2012 3:10:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hausboy

First--I'm going to go with those who said cell phone and experience. If you don't know what you're doing....PLEASE call 911 or get to an ER or if not as urgent, a primary care clinic if open.

I was a DM for almost 20 years, work in healthcare for a living, and I volunteer (unpaid) as a 911 EMS provider.
"OOPS" in the dungeon should not be more than a bandaid/small wound dressings and a cold pack. If it is beyond that, you need to get you or your boy/sub/girl etc. to a professional. Suturing for wounds is not appropriate for the dungeon--you do not have a sterile tray, and even if you do, it's not the place to do it---chances are, if the wound is deep enough to need suturing, it should be properly irrigated first. The dungeon is no place to do that--go to an ED or a UrgentCare center and get it done there. It is simply NOT worth getting an infection.

Dusky Pearls--you know I think you're the cats meow, I adore you--but unless you are a surgeon (and who knows, maybe you are), a scalpel belongs in the hands of a doctor OUTSIDE the dungeon. They are BEYOND sharp, and the harm/damage they will do in untrained hands is far greater than whatever the top managed to do in the first place. Sutures, scalpels, syringes--these may be toys to those who "play" with them, but they can also do a world of harm.

I want you to believe me--I have seen firsthand what happens to people when those with good intentions "help"--
basic first aid should suffice in the dungeon. and if it is beyond basic first aid, it is beyond what SHOULD be done in the dungeon.

sorry if I'm on a soap box again--I would like to prevent injuries from happening in the first place


Haus, those are my medical supplies for my BOB, none of it is for "play," and not to worry, I am skilled in using all of them.

I realize, too late, newbie that I am, what you meant by "Ooops Kit" was the kind used for/during play.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/18/2012 11:09:31 AM   
hausboy


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Perhaps I'm the one who misunderstood then. I interpreted the OPs question as:

what is in your emergency kit to go to when something goes bad in a scene? Not for play or medical scenes, but for the accident that occurs during a scene.

Two different animals entirely. I used to keep needles, alcohol, sterile gloves, sterile sheets etc. in my play kit because I used to play with needles a lot. But in the emergency kit, it was primarily bandages, dressings, medical tape, gloves, etc. Basic first aid.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/18/2012 1:05:13 PM   
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It very much depends on what your playing with and being aware and respectful of the inherent risks. For example, if you are using rope you need a good understanding about how to check the circulation and what to do when you suspect the circulation is being cut off. You need to understand about how nerve compression injuries occur and how to avoid them as this sort of rope injury can cause permanent nerve damage almost instantly. I consider a pair of rope shears or rope scissors very important first aid implements when I am doing bondage.

When I am doing fire play I always have bucket of water or a fire extinguisher close to hand…depending on what I am doing. Now although this isn't going to fit in your first aid box, its these sort of measures that can quickly stop something going terribly wrong.

Needle play always includes a sharp box and toxic waste bag (which I take home with me) because its important I protect uninterested parties from injury too.

If I was giving someone a good whipping, then band aids would be sitting at the top of my first aid box.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/18/2012 1:08:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hausboy

Hi Dusky
Perhaps I'm the one who misunderstood then. I interpreted the OPs question as:

what is in your emergency kit to go to when something goes bad in a scene? Not for play or medical scenes, but for the accident that occurs during a scene.

Two different animals entirely. I used to keep needles, alcohol, sterile gloves, sterile sheets etc. in my play kit because I used to play with needles a lot. But in the emergency kit, it was primarily bandages, dressings, medical tape, gloves, etc. Basic first aid.


Yeah, I caught on after the fact. Originally read the post when I was pretty bleary-eyed. My mistake.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/18/2012 1:15:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would chime in with do not use latex gloves. Use vinyl or nitrile gloves. Latex allergies are on the rise and you may not know in advance that your playmate has one.

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RE: Building a new Emergency Medical Kit - 3/18/2012 3:02:54 PM   
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I would chime in with do not use latex gloves. Use vinyl or nitrile gloves. Latex allergies are on the rise and you may not know in advance that your playmate has one.


True. I suspect eventually, we will see all medical products manufactured without latex--almost all oxygen tubing, intubation supplies, IV supplies, etc. are made without latex, and medical tapes, band-aids and syringes now come in Latex Free--I think soon it will be the only option.

I prefer Nitrile--it fits better, doesn't stink, and don't need powder to get them on. Plus for fisting, they have a much longer cuff.

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