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Politesub53 -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 6:19:23 PM)

"You spout a goiod party line, Polite. I think you're a nice guy but, I also think that you spend far too much time, reading about what goes on over here and not experiencing it for yourself."

Micheal, As I just posted, I am a Conservative, albeit with a small C.

That said, I am aware it happens to men as well as women, my brothers first wife was nuts, more so when she had had a drink. Like you, he could have swatted her but chose not to. For the most part though, violence is mostly carried out by men on women and not vice versa.



Lucylastic -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 6:29:22 PM)

yawwwwwwwwn
conservative women are being called names because they have done some seriously stupid shit. Palins gaffes are widely known, so are bachmanns, so are o donnells brewers, angles, etc etc, and targetting ANY politicians for stupid comments is both sides favourite thing to do.

I am not hurt, I am not defensive, Im not going to suffer from any of those bills EVER, I am however pissed off and MORE than angry for friends and family that may very well have problems with the bills being touted. This is NOT a lifestyle issue.. respecting men? I respect men who can be honorable and honest and have proven themselves worthy to me..... I have no issue with women who want to submit to a man. Never have, never will, not within the BDSM frame at least, when its consensual, its all good.
However this WAR is NOT consensual. But keep trying to make a mountain about the war on men and the women who respect them.WHat a crock


Now again...IF you would like to point out how conservative women are being waged WAR upon to the fact of BILLS in state and Fed government, not some comedians and posters piss taking?
or are you going to obfuscate again?
Whatever it is, Im outta here for the night.





BitaTruble -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 6:30:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas



It again occurs to me there is a war on men.


I'm just going to try to defend my girly bits with my vote. If that equates to a war on men, so be it. I think it's rather sad that it's come to this though, but it's not like the war between the sexes hasn't been raging on since the beginning except now there is more balance. Women carry guns (ie.. the right to vote) and we'll be using that gun come Nov. Count on it.









Arturas -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 7:11:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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ORIGINAL: Arturas



It again occurs to me there is a war on men.


I'm just going to try to defend my girly bits with my vote. If that equates to a war on men, so be it. I think it's rather sad that it's come to this though, but it's not like the war between the sexes hasn't been raging on since the beginning except now there is more balance. Women carry guns (ie.. the right to vote) and we'll be using that gun come Nov. Count on it.









I've actually never noticed a war between sexes until coming on the forum. I imagine I don't speak for all mankind, but still, a war between genders runs contrary to what is natural for both genders. What is unnatural is an abomination, don't you think? Myself, I think of a woman as the ying to my yang and vice versa, not as some advisary I must control or fear, imagine a world where that was true, is that your world? I hope not.

I do think women have voted for a long time now and that they do not pay much attention to MSNBC or the Huffington Post or the CM forum or you or me for that matter. In any case, I am confident women will use their vote to do the right thing.

In the upcoming election, I think independent (neither GOP or Demo) women voters will dominate the women voting block and will make themselves felt more than ever. I think they dominate the educated and most thoughtful block of female voters this go around. I also feel that no matter how they vote they will do the right thing.

Finally, I never fear how women will vote and I do not think women as a whole are at war or feel they are being warred upon by either party in spite of some Views.




Owner59 -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 7:18:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

That would be war on someone`s politics......


Your con-war doesn`t discriminated among political POVs or partys.


Every woman regardless of status or affiliation is potentially a victim here.And in many cases......their children are also potential victims




Perhaps it is a war on someone's politics. But is that different than saying a "war on men" or a "war on smart and successful women of the Right"?

I think not because our politics represent us, it represents how we think of and deal with each other, which is the basis and cause and origin of politics. So, I think it is just "cover" to say "war on another's politics only" because one may be against another's politics and disagree with another's politics but one cannot rightfully justify a purely negative action to support a "war on women or men" of any political outlook.

So, I feel it is Snake Oil to say "I am at war with your politics".


Do you even know what "snake oil" means?

It means fake medicine/science.

Something a con-man sells or pushes.....as a cure or medicine but knows is worthless......if not harmful.

You`re welcome.



Arturas -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 7:23:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yawwwwwwwwn
conservative women are being called names because they have done some seriously stupid shit. Palins gaffes are widely known, so are bachmanns, so are o donnells brewers, angles, etc etc, and targetting ANY politicians for stupid comments is both sides favourite thing to do.

I am not hurt, I am not defensive, Im not going to suffer from any of those bills EVER, I am however pissed off and MORE than angry for friends and family that may very well have problems with the bills being touted. This is NOT a lifestyle issue.. respecting men? I respect men who can be honorable and honest and have proven themselves worthy to me..... I have no issue with women who want to submit to a man. Never have, never will, not within the BDSM frame at least, when its consensual, its all good.
However this WAR is NOT consensual. But keep trying to make a mountain about the war on men and the women who respect them.WHat a crock


Now again...IF you would like to point out how conservative women are being waged WAR upon to the fact of BILLS in state and Fed government, not some comedians and posters piss taking?
or are you going to obfuscate again?
Whatever it is, Im outta here for the night.






I don't believe one can excuse such name calling on television as something acceptable or normal. Terms such as "dumb bitch" are over the line and not something one does except when on a war against women. I also don't believe any of the women you mentioned, all very successful and intelligent women, deserve such treatement.

I do believe much of the negativity is not due to a war on women but a war on men by women who do not like men, for whatever reason. The hurt and anger I see is too telling and to hard for them to cover up. Why many even say why they are hurt before launching into a negative post against men and why men "control" and do things they do for all negative reasons and claim men only do this for their own selfish reasons. (It's) quite illogical really that all men would do this but when emotions surface from past scarring then logic goes out the window, I think (and perhaps acceptably so). I know they know it's wrong but it's almost like they are praying to be proved wrong by throwing that (stuff) out on the table.

It is clear to me there are many very beautiful women very hurt and trapped by their past. It is tragic. But the majority of women are not that way and so the vote in November is not influenced by such a war against men (or on women for that matter). Not successfully.



Arturas -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 7:35:13 PM)

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Do you even know what "snake oil" means?

It means fake medicine/science.

Something a con-man sells or pushes


Thank you.
So I used it correctly to describe a con, I consider it a con to say "I am only at war with your politics".

You're welcome.



Arturas -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/18/2012 7:44:35 PM)

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my brothers first wife was nuts, more so when she had had a drink


Sorry to intrude. Tam must also be closely, even as she simply goes to the ladies room, must be closely watched after three margaritas. But, to stay on OP, this is not another war on women. It is just a fact when you take her to a sports bar and she starts doing karaoke. The (her) karaoke is great but you need to make sure she gets back to the table after she has at least three. Yes.



hlen5 -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/19/2012 1:35:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GrandPoobah


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ORIGINAL: hlen5


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ORIGINAL: GrandPoobah

..........Get the government the hell out of the Uterus! It really is that simple. If it ain't yours, leave it alone.....................

Since it's not yours, leave it alone...even if you think she's really hot!


I nominate this for Sunny's Quote of the Day!!!!


I'm not sure, but I think that's a compliment. I'll take it that way...and thanks.


It was! http://www.collarchat.com/m_3621488/mpage_17/tm.htm



kalikshama -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/20/2012 4:56:11 AM)

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I fear calling someone a dumb bitch on TV is not a war on politics. It is a war on smart and successful women.


http://www.politicususa.com/how-sarah-palin-invented-bill-mahers-liberal-excuse-for-misogyny/

Here’s the deal. A long time ago, Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a “tw*t” and likened her to a slutty looking flight attendant. I am certainly no fan of Palin and her victimized reaction to Bill was a part of a long string of her playing the sexism card to get out of not knowing that Africa was a continent. I was damned embarrassed by her and sick of her dodging her inexperience and lack of knowledge with crocodile tears. Palin did try to stir up a Bill boycott, but it was ineffective, or impotent as she would say. I gather Americans were tired of her crying wolf and just didn’t care. Also, the ugly truth is that what Bill said had a measure of truth to it, stemming from Palin’s own actions.

But I still didn’t like it, because I knew it would open the door for other men to say such things about women who didn’t behave like Sarah. And I just don’t like the words slutty and tw*t being used in a public forum to describe women. True, Palin sold herself as a stripper for the GOP. She was proud of being called the hottest governor from the coldest state, by her own dad no less. She wore clothing that enticed and distracted from her words on purpose. She wore impossibly short skirts on platform stages, sometimes with her bare legs crossed just so, causing the skirt to hike up mid thigh. Palin was the pretty face for ugly ideas and the Republican party milked that cash cow until Gabby Giffords was shot and Palin took the self-pity and victimhood a step too far by blaming the media.

Palin is a public figure and she more than invited such coarse dialogue, in fact she engages it in herself. This is a woman who called her constituents “asinine” in a press release from the Governor’s office and who refers to the President’s “cojones” on national TV. Sandra Fluke is a private citizen who testified at a congressional hearing in a dignified manner. She did not appear wearing short shorts and red leather Naughty monkeys. She didn’t wink at the boys.

Palin was a disaster for women because she was everything we fight against; to be dismissed as being just an object for sale, or to be ignored if we do not offer such enticements to men. The message of Palin is that all of our power, even at work, is supposed to come from our sexual desirability to men. How exactly is that female empowerment?

...Bill Maher’s defense of Rush’s First amendment rights is exactly what many of us women knew Sarah Palin was going to do the dialogue. She courted such talk. She expected to be excused for her laziness because she was pretty and hot. This led Bill to make the comments he did and now, years later, to excuse Rush for even worse misogyny under the guise of the First amendment. How did we land in this gutter of public discourse?

We women saw this coming the moment Sarah Palin stepped onto the stage in her red leather pumps and tight, short skirts, winking her way through a debate. But I’ll be damned if it wasn’t liberal men who told me in droves to “relax” and lectured me to just ignore her from their unknowingly misogynistic sense of presumed authority. Ah, male privilege. We know they mean well, but they just don’t get it.

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/how-sarah-palin-invented-bill-mahers-liberal-excuse-for-misogyny/



kalikshama -> RE: Another example of the "war" (3/20/2012 5:30:20 AM)

Stephen Colbert blasted Rush Limbaugh and Fox News as only he can do on last night's show for their latest attacks on Sandra Fluke, and their ongoing war on women.

"Yes, the Army is pulling out of Rush. (wild audience applause) Meanwhile, they're staying in Afghanistan to negotiate with the Taliban, who evidently have a better track record on women's issues.

And now, Premiere Radio Networks, which syndicates El Rushbo, has cancelled all their national ad slots for the next two weeks, which is their sole source of revenue from the show. Things have gotten so bad, folks, Rush may have to start a pledge drive.

So ladies, donate now, and you will get this free tote bag."

[image]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/UCLABruinKid/LimbaughToteBag.jpg[/image]

After taking up for Rush Limbaugh and opining on how terrible it is that advertisers are leaving his show in droves and noting that Limbaugh couldn't possibly be sexist because "he even judged the Miss America pageant," Colbert took up the Fox mantle that Limbaugh is the real victim here.

COLBERT: Now the real victim, the real victim here is Rush. This whole birth control controversy started with that Georgetown law student, Sandra Fluke, whose testimony was no fluke.

Cut to Eric Bolling, Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Laura Ingraham talking about how this was all an evil liberal plot against Limbaugh by the Democrats.

COLBERT: Ah yes. She was run by powerful people. She's a pawn. I mean, what's the alternative? That a 30-year-old woman had her own thoughts and feelings about reproductive rights? Come on! What do you take me for? A girl?

Sadly, most conservatives may not realize that Colbert was joking in this segment if this study from a few years ago is any indication.

Starts at about 2:30: http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/thu-march-15-2012-dexter-filkins



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