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ORIGINAL: Kainundeva

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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Please do get it into your head: Pro domming has nothing to do with sex.

now this makes me scratch my head. according to this a male sub never gets a hard on by being dominated by a pro? come on... is sex for you only fucking?

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Please do get it into your head: Pro domming has nothing to do with sex. Your exposure to sex workers may make you think that you are an expert on the subject, but it seems to have given you a rather warped attitude towards Pro Dommes, a subject about which it appears you know nothing.

You´re right, you have nothing useful to add since you are merely posting lengthy diatribes based on your self-proclaimed expertise.

Sorry, I have been a pro domme, and if you say it has nothing to do with sex you are kidding yourself, it has everything to do with sex and you are a sex worker, you are not an escort and you don't have sexual contact with clients, but their motivation and why they come to see you is sexual, it might not be sexual gratification but it's sexually driven. Or how often do you encounter guys who truly don't care what the domme looks like? The whole attire is sexually arousing (corsets, leather, boots, whips, chains, etc.) and how often will guys pick dommes they find physically repulsive? Sexual attraction seems to be the most important aspect.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Please do get it into your head: Pro domming has nothing to do with sex. Your exposure to sex workers may make you think that you are an expert on the subject, but it seems to have given you a rather warped attitude towards Pro Dommes, a subject about which it appears you know nothing.

You´re right, you have nothing useful to add since you are merely posting lengthy diatribes based on your self-proclaimed expertise.

Sorry, I have been a pro domme, and if you say it has nothing to do with sex you are kidding yourself, it has everything to do with sex and you are a sex worker, you are not an escort and you don't have sexual contact with clients, but their motivation and why they come to see you is sexual, it might not be sexual gratification but it's sexually driven. Or how often do you encounter guys who truly don't care what the domme looks like? The whole attire is sexually arousing (corsets, leather, boots, whips, chains, etc.) and how often will guys pick dommes they find physically repulsive? Sexual attraction seems to be the most important aspect.

Really, so when my friend was whipping the shit out of my back I was supposed to be getting aroused. And when my other friend used to flog me, I was supposed to get off on that too? And I was supposed to be picking them because they were hot and not because I knew them and trusted them not to harm me.

Damn, all this time I have been doing this shit wrong. Thanks for the heads up.[8|]

Omg, I just remembered. I have let men stick needles in me. And once again I forgot to get sexually aroused. I guess now I better go change my profile from lesbian to bi.

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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine
Nobody seems capable of differentiating between sex and sexuality.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Hell's bells . . . This is becoming insane to me. Really, why should we care if pro-Dommes give their clients boners or not? (Though, me, I'd feel pretty damned cheated if I didn't get one!) Why should we care if they have sexual contact with their clients or not? Why should we care if they call themselves pro-dommes, prostitutes, whores, entertainers, special escorts, or even astronauts, for that matter?

And, yes, actors, dancers and singers who play to their sex appeal could be in amongst that mix, too.

The bottom line is that a) the less it has *directly* to do with sex and b) the higher paid the person doing it, the higher status, and moral virtue, that's automatically attached. These are tired, fucked up old values that we should be learning to ditch, rather than playing along with. I mean, really. It's not even the 20th century anymore, never mind the 19th.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Hell's bells . . . This is becoming insane to me. Really, why should we care if pro-Dommes give their clients boners or not? (Though, me, I'd feel pretty damned cheated if I didn't get one!) Why should we care if they have sexual contact with their clients or not? Why should we care if they call themselves pro-dommes, prostitutes, whores, entertainers, special escorts, or even astronauts, for that matter?

And, yes, actors, dancers and singers who play to their sex appeal could be in amongst that mix, too.

The bottom line is that a) the less it has *directly* to do with sex and b) the higher paid the person doing it, the higher status, and moral virtue, that's automatically attached. These are tired, fucked up old values that we should be learning to ditch, rather than playing along with. I mean, really. It's not even the 20th century anymore, never mind the 19th.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Please do get it into your head: Pro domming has nothing to do with sex. Your exposure to sex workers may make you think that you are an expert on the subject, but it seems to have given you a rather warped attitude towards Pro Dommes, a subject about which it appears you know nothing.

You´re right, you have nothing useful to add since you are merely posting lengthy diatribes based on your self-proclaimed expertise.

Sorry, I have been a pro domme, and if you say it has nothing to do with sex you are kidding yourself, it has everything to do with sex and you are a sex worker, you are not an escort and you don't have sexual contact with clients, but their motivation and why they come to see you is sexual, it might not be sexual gratification but it's sexually driven. Or how often do you encounter guys who truly don't care what the domme looks like? The whole attire is sexually arousing (corsets, leather, boots, whips, chains, etc.) and how often will guys pick dommes they find physically repulsive? Sexual attraction seems to be the most important aspect.

Really, so when my friend was whipping the shit out of my back I was supposed to be getting aroused. And when my other friend used to flog me, I was supposed to get off on that too? And I was supposed to be picking them because they were hot and not because I knew them and trusted them not to harm me.

Damn, all this time I have been doing this shit wrong. Thanks for the heads up.[8|]

Omg, I just remembered. I have let men stick needles in me. And once again I forgot to get sexually aroused. I guess now I better go change my profile from lesbian to bi.

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha



I don't know how the anatomy or biology works for men. But I often get very sexually aroused - ie WET - from BDSM activities, play, and fantasy, but that kind of "wet" does not make me necessarily want to have sexual intercourse or even orgasm. But traditional foreplay, ie, petting, kissing, etc. makes me wet and makes me want to have sex or orgasm.

So while being "aroused" during BDSM can be highly intensely charged on an erotic level, it can also be fully clothed, include no sexual touching, and no sexual release. That might have to do with the difference between female and male wiring though.

I also don't need to have an orgasm to have a fully mindblowing femdom experience. I do have an all-over-body shudder that feels AS GOOD as an orgasm and has a similar emotional aftermath, but it's not the same as a sexual orgasm. Go figure.

Akasha

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha



I don't know how the anatomy or biology works for men. But I often get very sexually aroused - ie WET - from BDSM activities, play, and fantasy, but that kind of "wet" does not make me necessarily want to have sexual intercourse or even orgasm. But traditional foreplay, ie, petting, kissing, etc. makes me wet and makes me want to have sex or orgasm.

So while being "aroused" during BDSM can be highly intensely charged on an erotic level, it can also be fully clothed, include no sexual touching, and no sexual release. That might have to do with the difference between female and male wiring though.

I also don't need to have an orgasm to have a fully mindblowing femdom experience. I do have an all-over-body shudder that feels AS GOOD as an orgasm and has a similar emotional aftermath, but it's not the same as a sexual orgasm. Go figure.

Akasha

Absolutely, but that's a female thing. Every male masochist I've ever known (most women really don't tend to be clients of pro dommes, they can get it for free) could take more pain and craved more pain when aroused, to claim that BDSM is non-sexual is just crazy, if it wouldn't arouse us to some level, during or after play, why on earth would we actually do it? I never had the desire to jump somebody I just whipped, but it gave me a sexual charge and a thrill, I called it the top high, but I assume it's similar or the same to what you call a femdom experience. The feeling that all of your senses are heightened, things become super clear and are in focus and there is an intensity that's almost like an electrical current running through your body, it's very sexual for me, even if it doesn't lead to sex with the person I happen to play with.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Kainundeva

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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Please do get it into your head: Pro domming has nothing to do with sex.

now this makes me scratch my head. according to this a male sub never gets a hard on by being dominated by a pro? come on... is sex for you only fucking?

I have had a lot of scenes that were very satisfying and I didn't get sexually aroused. I wasn't sexually interested in the person topping me and they were not interested in me in that way. I just wanted my ass beat and they just wanted to hit on someone. No sex just pain.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
I never claimed to be better than anyone. I was merely pointing out that bdsm isn't always about sex. Sorry you missed that.

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ORIGINAL: Bhruic
I'm curious... what exactly IS the feeling you experience from receiving pain inflicted upon you by another? I am assuming it is something different from what you might feel from whacking your hand with a hammer? Is there truly no component of arousal in your pain experience at all?

I admit I have difficulty conceiving of such a situation, but I accept that it must exist. I have known people who sought pain for its own sake, but they generally just cut themselves.