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"the exacerbation of and the exploitation of racia... - 3/31/2012 5:09:28 PM   
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Is that to be Trayvon Martin's legacy?

Is "Justice for Trayvon" to become just slogan on a hoddie?


Don't get me wrong...

I have little doubt Zimmerman got his rocks off bring a wannabe playing cop.

I have no doubt that he initiated the incident, pissed off a young black man who was only walking home, found out he was picking on the wrong guy and while getting his clock cleaned in fight he himself provoked, pulled out a pistol and slew Trayvon Martin.

At some point it is likely that George Zimmerman will stand trial for manslaughter but not first degree murder.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 5:53:36 PM   
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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 7:02:29 PM   
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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?

I don't read Pat Buchanan, so I don't know whether he's a bigot or not. But he's right to nail Jackson and Sharpton as race-baiting bigots. Blacks comprised only 12.3% of the population in 2010, but black victims accounted for 45% of the total single-victim/single-offender murder rate for the US, and 92% of those black victims of violence were murdered by other blacks, not whites.

Jackson and Sharpton don't give a fuck about the growing black body count, let alone a single kid. They only care about money and publicity. Hispanics are frequently cited as one of the oppressed minorities in this country. But when one of them kills a black youth, suddenly the kid was killed by a "white man." This whole fucking orgy of manufactured race-hatred is disgusting.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 7:49:39 PM   
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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?



Another round of blame the messenger.......

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 7:51:52 PM   
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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?



BTW... how do you get "So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions>" out of that column?

And why aren't Jackson, Sharpton, Water's et al in Chicago this weekend donning Hoodies???

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 7:59:54 PM   
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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?

You felt the need to ask that question...of him ?
Why ?
I don't mean to be critical Ken....but surely this is rhetorical,right ?

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 8:09:44 PM   
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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?



Another round of blame the messenger.......

Well when the "message"is just so much bullshit..yeah,blame the messenger seems to be called for

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 8:10:11 PM   
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quote:

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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?



BTW... how do you get "So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions>" out of that column?

This part
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Zimmerman "profiled" Trayvon, we are told. And perhaps he did.

But why? What did George Zimmerman, self-styled protector of his gated community, see that night from the wheel of his SUV?

He saw a male. And males are 90 percent of prison inmates. He saw a stranger over 6 feet tall. And he saw a black man or youth with a hood over his head.

Why would this raise Zimmerman's antennae?

Perhaps because black males between 16 and 36, though only 2 to 3 percent of the population, are responsible for a third of all our crimes.

In some cities, 40 percent of all black males are in jail or prison, on probation or parole, or have criminal records. This is not a product of white racism but of prosecutions and convictions of criminal acts.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 8:28:46 PM   
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I notice NBC is taking a bit of flak, now. It seems the Today show felt the story would be easier for their audience to understand clearly if they edited the tape of a 911 call to have Zimmerman say, "he looks suspicious, he looks black," without the 911 dispatcher asking for a description in between the statements.

I'm sure it was agonizing decision for the producers, and made only because of the time constraints of their broadcast schedule...

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 8:34:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?



BTW... how do you get "So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions>" out of that column?

And why aren't Jackson, Sharpton, Water's et al in Chicago this weekend donning Hoodies???


Patrick Buchanan -- Unrepentant Bigot

If Zimmerman wasn't hunting Martin because of his race, how come he was unable to articulate EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIME attributable to Martin of during his call to 9-1-1?


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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 9:10:22 PM   
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Zimmerman wasn't "hunting" anyone

This is race bating of the worst sorts.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 10:04:47 PM   
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Yes, he just killed an unarmed teenager by mistake. Police let him walk away while doing drug testing on the deceased with skittles in his pocket.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 10:27:44 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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So Pat Buchanan, well known bigot, is trying to justify Zimmerman's actions and you felt the need to link to his crap. Why?

I don't read Pat Buchanan, so I don't know whether he's a bigot or not. But he's right to nail Jackson and Sharpton as race-baiting bigots. Blacks comprised only 12.3% of the population in 2010, but black victims accounted for 45% of the total single-victim/single-offender murder rate for the US, and 92% of those black victims of violence were murdered by other blacks, not whites.

Jackson and Sharpton don't give a fuck about the growing black body count, let alone a single kid. They only care about money and publicity. Hispanics are frequently cited as one of the oppressed minorities in this country. But when one of them kills a black youth, suddenly the kid was killed by a "white man." This whole fucking orgy of manufactured race-hatred is disgusting.

K.



You`re so full of shit......you haven`t a clue as to how those men feel about those stats......

Funny,never heard your "concern" about black on black crime before Martin`s murder.Now you`re gonna school us?

So now you`ll give us some examples of how either of those two men have "exploited" this situation.

You and your bigot-buddy Pat must have a bunch.


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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 10:32:46 PM   
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Zimmerman wasn't "hunting" anyone

This is race bating of the worst sorts.


Of course he was....we heard the tape......"these assholes always get away".....

It`s you cons that are injecting race into this.

Quit the fake outrage and quit the fake concern......

Of all the things folks are worried about with this......the egos of republicans and "how you all feel" are NOT among them.

Masturbate your egos on something else.


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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 10:54:15 PM   
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"MSNBC’s Martin Bashir talks with columnist Jonathan Alter and Mother Jones’ David Corn about the misguided attempts by Republicans like Newt Gingrich to whip up racial tension via the Trayvon Martin case.


>>> turning now to the trayvon martin investigation, and for some, this case has turned into an opportunity to rehearse racial stereo types and smear the president. yes. smear the president for remarks like this.

>> i think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does thing like this happen. that mean we examine the laws and the context for what happened. as well as the specifics of the incident. if i had a son, he would look like trayvon.

>> and of course, you remember what newt gingrich had to say about that.

>> what the president that in a sense is disgraceful. any young american of any ethnic background should be safe. period. is the president suggesting that if it had been a white who had been shot, that would be okay because it didn't look like him? that's just nonsense.

>> right. disgraceful. the daily caller went further suggesting the president only spoke out because he was pressured by black radicals. quote, following demands by the new black panthers and others on the scene in sanford, florida, the white house get involved. obama jumped into the fight. now, like a per verse game of telephone by which the president's remarks are disported into something hostile, we have georgezimmerman 's father speaking out saying this about the atmosphere surrounding this tragic loss of life.

>> i guess he would have preferred my son being beaten to death. i never foresaw so much hate coming from the president, the congressional black caucus , the naacp, every organization imaginable is trying to get notoriety get note noteriety or profit from this in some way. but there's so much hate.

>> all of this while suggesting that nobody should rush to judgment, so long as that, of course, doesn't include judging the character of trayvon martin. joining me now in new york, nbc political analystjonathan alter , analyst, and david kohn and author of the book "showdown." you write that the birth of a conspiracy theory rempresented a dominant theme. obama was the somewhat not quite real american who truly understood and treasured the nation. so i guess when the president offers condolences to the parents of trayvon martin, he's immediately attacked by newt gingrich for doing so and they all talk about the hate that's going around. where is the hate coming from?

>> it might have come from the barrel of the gun that night. if you remember " jurassic park ," the dinosaur that spits toxic poison, for the president to suggest that it's okay if this had been a young white man who had been shot, it's not only ridiculous, it's playing the newt card that the president is accusing gingrich as playing. it may be one facet of this tragedy. i'm kind of inclined to give every parent in this situation a bit of a pass. i think georgezimmerman 's father's comments won't mean a lot when we put it into context at the end of the investigation and know for sure what happened, but for newt to get out there and try to stir this up and suggest that barack obama is anti-white, that was really despicable, but what do you expect when you're in the death throes of a campaign.

>> newt has been playing this to the campaign. in louisiana last night, somebody shouting that the president is a muslim and wants to destroy the country and gingrich not clarifying the matter at all, just letting it go."


http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/46896759/#46896759


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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 11:07:28 PM   
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It`s you cons that are injecting race into this.

I know you weren't talking to me, but I want to help you make your point anyway:

Jesse Jackson, Republican

K.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 11:17:51 PM   
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Newt Gingrich

You're going to use Newty as an exemplar of "Republicans"? Now that's funny! A guy whose nomination attempt is on the skids because the Republicans want nothing to do with him.

K.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 11:38:54 PM   
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quote:

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It`s you cons that are injecting race into this.

I know you weren't talking to me, but I want to help you make your point anyway:

Jesse Jackson, Republican

K.


They are.

Ask me if I`m surprised that you had no clue?

Remember all those "stats" you posted?

Why are blacks more likely to get harsher punishments than whites?


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/06/148032586/report-minority-students-receive-harsher-punishments


I`m so glad you`re concerned about these things (yeah lol right ).....it`s heart warming.....

Maybe the Martin tragedy will bring the black community`s issues to light, for good and positive outcomes......and not as fodder for well fed,well leisured,comfortable armchair racial/social conservative commentators.






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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 11:40:59 PM   
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If Zimmerman wasn't hunting Martin because of his race, how come he was unable to articulate EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIME attributable to Martin of during his call to 9-1-1?





No one "articulates evidence" in a 911 call, not even cops. Cops pull people over due to probabable cause, not because they already have evidence of a crime.

It's really sad that you don't know this.

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RE: "the exacerbation of and the exploitation of r... - 3/31/2012 11:46:20 PM   
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Why are blacks more likely to get harsher punishments than whites?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/06/148032586/report-minority-students-receive-harsher-punishments

Playing shoot first, read later again?

The conspicuously absent phrase in that report is, "for the same offenses."

K.

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