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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:31:30 AM   
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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:32:55 AM   
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Now, now...say please?  lol

I don't really read minds with them, I was just teasing, sorry

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:38:17 AM   
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Wouldn't the Plah word be unDomly?

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:42:04 AM   
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Meh, Domly is relative.  If a Dom says it, it's Domly

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:43:13 AM   
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Oooo... pretty please with whips and chains on top.

*puffs up chest all Domly like*

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:49:02 AM   
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I'm such a pushover for a pirate who begs, I tried working on that in therapy but Mr. Edwards said he wouldn't play my games any more

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 2:53:23 AM   
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I think you have the wrong kind of therapy. Come over and we will work on it.

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 3:06:18 AM   
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lol Mayhaps, he did warn me about pirates though.  Unfortunately, I drifted off into a Mr. Hook fantasy and then he asked me to leave and never come back.

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 9:50:06 AM   
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(From an unknown source but this resided in my Codicies Venifica, Codex Aethyre, Liba Larmen)


Credo


  I  believe  that  there  is  one  unified divine wholeness in the universe. This divinity is larger than the universe, and contains all creation within it. In its enormity  it  is  unknowable,  and none may judge it.


  In  order  that mankind may have some way of focusing their love and awe for this supernal power, it has made itself known to  man in  the  forms  of  all of the different gods worshiped, not the least the God  and  Goddess  figures  of  the  witches.  For  the divinity, while whole, is polarized, as all nature is polarized.

  For  there  are  undeniably  extremes of light and dark, heat and cold, male and female, depth and altitude, anima and animus, pain and pleasure, life and death,  weakness  and  strength,  yin  and yang.  All these opposites are a part of the whole, and the whole is perfect.  There would not be perfection without polarity.


  I believe the unified divine wholeness of godhead is  easiest  to know  and  understand  as the Goddess and God of the Wiccans.  

The  God  of  the  witches incorporates all masculine archetypes: the sky‑father as wise old man, the  fire‑warrior,  the  fighter, the  old  Horned  God as lord of the hunt and or death, the Green Man as procreator and ensurer of fertility, man  as  phallus  and semen,   man  as  guardian  and  protector,  man  as  wisdom  and knowledge. Women can worship Him, but only men can  have  a  full and complete understanding of Him.

  The  Goddess of the witches incorporates all feminine archetypes: the earth‑mother  as  benefactress  and  restrictor,  the  triple goddess  of the moon as nymph, mother and hag, queen of light and darkness, servant maid,  predatory  woman  and  nurturing  woman, innocent  child and wise old crone. Men can worship Her, but only women can have a full and complete understanding of Her.

  I believe that the four ancient elements (Earth, Fire, Water  and Air)  are  aspects  of the witches' gods: fire and air of the God and earth and water of the Goddess.  Each  of  them  are  further polarized   in   these   elements,  as  young  (fire‑warrior  and water‑maid) and old (sky‑father and earth‑mother).

  I believe that all life is born out of the union of the Gods, and that all life is reunited once more  with  them  at  death  in  a dimension  called  by tradition the Summerland which is graced by fruiting trees, particularly the sacred  apple  of  the  witches, holding in its core the five‑pointed star.

  I  believe  that  the  Judaeo‑Christian  tradition decided on the apple as the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, referred to in their sacred texts just as fruit, only when they realized  its special ties with the Ancient Ones.
 

I believe that all souls return to the Summerland for a period of refreshment  and  reflection  on  their  lives  and to absorb any important lessons learnt before putting on  flesh  once  more  to walk  the earth to continue the Good Work. I believe that  once a soul has come to the Old Religion in one life, it will  seek  out and  come  to the Old Religion in all future lives, as the spiral of life goes ever up and all things  beneficial  are  carried  on through the generations.
 

I believe the Craft is necessary to wholism of life.   I  believe  that  all the good I do returns to me threefold (once for the intention, once for the action and once for the  result), and any deliberate harm I do also returns threefold (once for the intention, once for the  action  and  once  for  the  result).  I believe  that  the evil you do will rebound on you, now or in the future, and the good you do  will  be  rewarded  now  or  in  the future.  I  believe that Intention is the sole measure of good or evil.
 

I  believe  all creatures, no matter how lowly, have the right to live life as they please, so long as they harm no one. I too have this right, so long as I harm no one. I have  no  right  to  kill directly  or  indirectly  except  for food and the necessities of life, and I should sanctify any taking of life by apologizing for the death and giving thanks for the benefits that will accrue  to me.
 

I  believe  that  all creatures, however lowly, have an existence both in the World of Form and the World of Spirit,  and  as  such are  exactly  equal  to me in all things. I believe the Earth, as our mother, as Gaeia, is a living entity and a facet of  godhead, and  deserves  worship,  love  and nurturing even as she receives from some of us rape, violence and pillage.
 

I believe that at Esbat, the ritual celebration of the full moon, by  proper  preparation the priestess of the witch cult can `draw down the moon' when the Goddess will enter her  body  and  impart knowledge of natural and unnatural things. I believe in the power of  working  witches  to augment and strengthen the forces of the Old Ones, just as a concert pianist is strengthened to produce  a better performance by a sympathetic audience, and a football team by a home crowd.




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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 10:11:35 AM   
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Good one IronBear...

So do you yourself practice magic?  or Majik as originally put here.
Which?

Elizabeth / o^^

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 10:26:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ElizabethDVall

Good one IronBear...

So do you yourself practice magic?  or Majik as originally put here.
Which?

Elizabeth / o^^



I have been an ordaned Pagan Priest for 37 years and yes I practice magick in various formats. Like some others here I grew up in a totally Pagan Family and follow the family traditions

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 11:05:29 AM   
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Thank you for posting that IronBear

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 12:11:43 PM   
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Just don't ask Mr. Hook to help with cleaning and inserting
contact lenses or dressing you in silky unmentionables.
Word is that he works best with fishnet stockings!
 
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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

lol Mayhaps, he did warn me about pirates though.  Unfortunately, I drifted off into a Mr. Hook fantasy and then he asked me to leave and never come back.


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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 12:31:21 PM   
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Thank you for posting that Iron Bear.  I have never read that particular Credo before.
 
I thought it was time to post this credo, attributed to Doreen Valiente.
 
The Charge of the Goddess
 
"I who am the beauty of the green earth and the white moon among
the stars and the mysteries of the waters, I call upon your soul to arise and come unto Me. 
For I am the soul of nature that gives life to the universe.  From Me all things proceed and unto Me they must return.  Let My worship be in the heart that rejoices, for behold - all acts of love and pleasure are My rituals.  Let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honor and humility, mirth and reverence within you. And you who seek to know Me, know that your seeking and yearning will avail you not, unless you know the Mystery: for if that which you seek, you find not within yourself, you will never find it without.  For behold, I have been with you from the beginning, and I am that which is attained at the end of desire."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 12:46:36 PM   
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Vendaval that is beautiful

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 12:51:23 PM   
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good afternoon

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 3:28:23 PM   
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new2scene,
 
If you wish to contact someone, please send them a message
off-list.  Hitting on someone in a forum thread is considered
"trolling" and leaves a bad impression.
 
Welcome to the boards.
 
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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 4:42:37 PM   
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More excerpts from my Codicies Venifica, Codex Aethyre, Liba ex Carmen

The Goat-Foot God

Came the voice of Destiny,
Calling o’er the Ionian Sea,
“The Great God Pan is dead, is dead.
Humbled is the horned head;
Shut the door to which there is no key –
Waste the vales of Arcady.”

Shackled by the Iron Age,
Lost the woodland heritage,
Heavy goes the heart of man,
Parted from the light-foot Pan;
Wearily he wears the chain
Till the Goat-god comes again.

Half a man and half a beast,
Pan is greatest, Pan is least,
Pan is all and all is Pan;
Look for him in every-man;
Goat-hoof swift and shaggy thigh –
Follow him to Arcady.

He shall wake toe living dead –
Cloven hoof and hornéd head,
Human heart and human brain,
Pan the goat-god comes again!
Half a beast and half a man-
Pan is all, and all is Pan.

Come, O Goat-god, come again!
(Dion Fortune)



“Horned head and cloven hoof –
Fawns who seek and nymphs that flee –
Piping clear that draweth near
Through the vales of Arcady –
These the gifts we have of thee,
God of joyous ecstasy.”

“Come, great Pan, and bless us all;
Bless the corn and honey-bee.
Bless the kine and bless the vine,
Bless the vales of Arcady.
Bless the nymphs that laugh and flee,
God of all fertility.”
(Anon)


Charge of the God
Listen to the words of the God,
who is son, brother, lover and consort of the Lady.
I am the fleet deer in the forest,
I am the beach which receives the waves. I am the sun which warms
the earth. I am the Lord of the Spiral Dance of Life, Death and
Rebirth, the gentle Reaper, the Winter Stag and the Spring Fawn.
All things are of Me for I am
of the Goddess, opposite, yet not opposing.
I bring forth from the womb that
is a tomb, for I am the seed which fertilizes. I am abundant life,
for I am the grain that grows and I am death, the harvest in the
fall. And I am rebirth after darkness, for I am the seed that
springs forth anew. I am fertility, the spreader of life, and
I am the Lord of Death which adds value to life. I am the Guardian
of the gate between life and death.
I am the King of the underworld,
where no living being may venture, but I am also the King of rebirth,
turning the tomb into a womb.
I bring love and strength, peace
and passion, hope and joy, for I am the gentle lover in the night.
All that comes from the Great Mother, the Divine Star Goddess,
who is Mother of us all.
(Anon)

The Declaration Of The Hidden Children

        "Hear now the words of the witches,
         The secrets we hid in the night,
         When dark was our destiny's pathway,
         That now we bring forth into the light.
         Mysterious Water and Fire,
         The Earth and the wide ranging Air,
         By hidden quintessence we know them,
         And will keep silent and dare. 
         The birth and rebirth of all nature,
         The passing of winter and spring,
        We share with the life universal,
         Rejoice in the magical ring. 
        Four times in the year the Great Sabbat Returns,
        And  the  witches  are  seen        
        At Lammas and Candlemas dancing,
         On  May Eve and old Hallowe'en. 
        When day time and night time are equal,
         When sun  is  at greatest and least,
        The four lesser Sabbats are summoned,
         Again witches gather in feast.
         Thirteen silver moons in a year are,
         Thirteen  is the Coven's array. 
        Thirteen times at  Esbat  make merry,
         For each golden year and a day.
         The power was passed down the ages,
         Each  time between woman and man,
         Each century unto the other,
         Ere time and ages began.
         When drawn is the magical circle,
         By sword or athame of power,
         (Anon)


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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 4:49:31 PM   
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One of the most profound misconceptions concerning the slave is that the slave is powerless. When this perspective pervades a relationship, the owner loses the opportunity to make use of one of the greatest assets of owning such valuable property. In actuality, the slave inherently carries the exact same measure of power available to all humans, and even more important, the slave recognizes that he or she is being asked to yield everything about him or herself, and so, when accepting slavery, offers the potential for a wise and observant owner to access the power thus yielded by the slave for the benefit of the relationship and magickal workings directed towards that purpose.

If a slave and an owner share common ideals, the combination of the owner's energy and direction, and the energy willingly yielded by the slave, can bring about incredible changes in the universe, and can effect profound results not only for the individuals but for any cause that the owner sets his or her direction towards.

This communion of power has been recognized and celebrated in religious circles for years. The Vestal slaves of Greece and Rome, Mayan and Polynesian priest(ess) slaves, and even, in their own way, the priests and nuns of the Catholic Church have all provided their energy for the causes to which they were bound. In our own way, magick-users who are also involved in M/s share a microcosm of the dynamics of these great temples.

It is important to recognize the sharing and for the energy exchange to be one of willing exchange. As Loki said, making sure that the purpose for which the energy is to be directed is clear is fundamental, as is the need for strong will without overweaning ego.

This is an amazing opportunity that we have, and emphasizes the communal aspects of the M/s relationship in ways that are seldom recognized in situations that do not acknowlege the energetic capacity of the human being.

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RE: Majik and M/s D/s relationships - 6/5/2006 5:19:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

(From an unknown source but this resided in my Codicies Venifica, Codex Aethyre, Liba Larmen) 

For  there  are  undeniably  extremes of light and dark, heat and cold, male and female, depth and altitude, anima and animus, pain and pleasure, life and death,  weakness  and  strength,  yin  and yang.  All these opposites are a part of the whole, and the whole is perfect.  There would not be perfection without polarity.


Now see, this is where the spirituality of D/s manifests itself for me. It starts from the Masculine/Feminine polarity; Man as Taking, Woman as Yeilding...but that's just the most obvious one to the outside observer.

The Light and Dark, as represented through the sexual expression of rough sex being held equally as Divine as gentle sex. Pain and Pleasure, which is surely an obvious one as well, and Yin and Yang as in Dominant personality meshing with Submissive personality to create a unified whole.

You have the Physical, manifested by the creative use of the Elements, be it Breath Play, FirePlay, IcePlay, or what I would consider Earth Play (Scat, Blood, Golden Showers, Food Play).

And you also have the Intellect in the use of Imagination and Rituals: Rope Bondage, Percussion Play (Oh, to be the Sacred Drum, Made of Flesh! ::grin::),Goddess Worship, Animal Play, etc.

Honouring the Nature of Man as Beast and Thinker.

This is where BDSM becomes Sex Majik for me.

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