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What (easily verifiable?) facts are missing from this M... - 4/24/2012 3:19:17 PM   
Pyramus


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In Google news, I ran across this recent situation and in digging for the simple facts, I'm worried that key seemingly easy to verify details seem to be missing ... ???

Does this 'true story" make sense to you?
- Brooklyn male (John Hopkins, 45) places ad in Craigslist offering exchange
- Exchange is rent-free lodging for domestic assistance (cooking/cleaning)
- Victim (female, 27) accepts Feb 4th 2012 free flight from Wisconsin to NYC
- Perp blindfolds, gags, chains to radiator, beas, & rapes victim over 8 days
- Perp allows victim to leave for her job in a Manhattan restaurant
- Victim returns from Manhatten to Brooklyn
- Victim calls mom who calls NYCPD who find her trembling in perp's bed
- Handcuffs, a ball-gag, whip and a rope were found in the residence
- Woman had rectal haemorrhaging & bruising
- Two different stories emerge
- He says the girl was in NYC with him for several weeks
- He says he called the mom, not she
- He says it was a role-playing ad she responded to

While this is a he-says she-says issue for the courts to decide, what I don't understand is why certain key features of the story are wholly missing (which 'somebody' must easily know).

What confuses me most is that when I google for details, all I find are the same missing data. Anyone know more about this one?

Reference:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20032030-504083.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/21/craigslist-sex-slave_n_825960.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358857/John-Hopkins-kept-Craigslist-woman-sex-slave-says-relationship-consensual.html
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RE: What (easily verifiable?) facts are missing from th... - 4/24/2012 3:31:15 PM   
Alecta


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There was at least one other thread on this.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3973342/tm.htm

Off the top of my head,

Email exchanges in which the girl expressed the situation she was found in to be her fantasy and her desire for the man to fulfil them were submitted for consideration as evidence.
The girl then refused to testify.
Since she would not testify, the man was given "time served" and released.
A judge was on record saying "there is no doubt in my mind that this began consensually, but at some point, that changed."

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RE: What (easily verifiable?) facts are missing from th... - 4/24/2012 3:40:27 PM   
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He was released almost a year ago. The case was never really tried. Why do you care about this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20075900-504083.html

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RE: What (easily verifiable?) facts are missing from th... - 4/24/2012 11:41:59 PM   
Pyramus


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quote:

ORIGINAL: strangedesire
Why do you care about this?


A few reasons:

1. It bothered me that it made no sense from what I had read, which apparently was not updated by the media with the full facts, (on purpose?)
2. It bothers me that newspapers are irresponsible by reporting (on purpose?) misleading stories on Craigslist & kink, in general.
3. It bothers me that (some basic items of) typical D/s play are illegal in some states (California, for example).

BTW, I had not realized this news was from a year ago, nor that there was the other thread, which confirmed my suspicions about the news reports inaccuracies (on purpose?).

Now, with this new information, all the items that made no sense fall neatly into place. There was no crime committed (other than perjury by the 'victim').

< Message edited by Pyramus -- 4/24/2012 11:54:16 PM >

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RE: What (easily verifiable?) facts are missing from th... - 4/25/2012 3:19:00 AM   
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Bottom line is don't play with someone you don't trust and/or have a mutual understanding with. I wouldn't stress too much about this story. It doesn't even loosely apply to the majority of kinksters.



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