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A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 3:06:16 PM

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Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

And I quote what one recently said to me:

"But having no profile.....baiting an entire board and walking away isn't gonna give you alotta outlets to give that pussy away"

First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

Second I DONT Bait, I ask real and to the point questions.

Third I am NOT here to give "pussy away"

Fourth Maybe I should walk away from Collarme.com, I am being treated like meat at a meat market instead of human, a human that has a needs just like everyone else here. I quess it is wrong for me to expect Men to be Gentlemen, but give me a break that comment above was just so wrong on so many levels.

slave susan

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 3:11:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty
Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

Because for most masters (and most people in the scene), bdsm is tied to their sexuality, is a way to express themselves sexually, and they feel a similar rooted connected between bdsm and sex.

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First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

OK no reason to drag that point here- this point was cleared up that you had a collarme problem with your profile.

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Fourth Maybe I should walk away from Collarme.com, I am being treated like meat at a meat market instead of human, a human that has a needs just like everyone else here. I quess it is wrong for me to expect Men to be Gentlemen, but give me a break that comment above was just so wrong on so many levels.

You're online and you're female. There are dorks online who will be dorky towards you.

Those PARTICULAR comments I think were actually made facetiously and more to show you how your comments would be taken- by making a comment that YOU would take the same way. Instead of catching onto that point, you took it personally.

To expect there not to be dorks online is unrealistic and, if you can't get beyond those unrealistic expectations, then yes, you should leave online forums.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 3:14:21 PM

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Thank you.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 3:49:32 PM

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Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

Why is it most posters think they know what everyone thinks? Have you talked with most masters? Have you talked to a hundred masters?

You don't even have the sense to define what sex is. Are you defining it like Bill Clinton? Are you defining it like Janet Hardy? Are you defining it according the the Rocks and Shoals?

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 3:56:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty

Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

And I quote what one recently said to me:

"But having no profile.....baiting an entire board and walking away isn't gonna give you alotta outlets to give that pussy away"

First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

Second I DONT Bait, I ask real and to the point questions.

Third I am NOT here to give "pussy away"

Fourth Maybe I should walk away from Collarme.com, I am being treated like meat at a meat market instead of human, a human that has a needs just like everyone else here. I quess it is wrong for me to expect Men to be Gentlemen, but give me a break that comment above was just so wrong on so many levels.

slave susan

"Also i must be a stay at home slave with all expenses paid for, because i wish to be kept, bound, tight bondage, caged and treated like chattel. no objection to being a sex slave but only to those in my immediate household."

This is from your profile. What, exactly, do you expect considering what you're advertising?

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 3:58:48 PM

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La is correct.

I don't think the comment about "giving your pussy away" was meant as a reference to sex. Some could have taken your original post there as baiting the board to get certain responses. He in turn baited you for a response, which you gave him.

If you just look at it as a learning experience and think about how to clearly make your point when you post, you'll be fine. I am not saying the post to you was not a little over the top, but your original post could also have been taken the same way.

welcome to the insanity

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 4:07:20 PM

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quote:

First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

I can't even find the profile let alone anything else but if you stated what Celeste has said, you're going to get some bad emails that you brought on yourself.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 4:15:21 PM

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First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

I can't even find the profile let alone anything else but if you stated what Celeste has said, you're going to get some bad emails that you brought on yourself.

It doesn't link to her name, but if you type her screen name into the search the profile comes up. Also, as Celeste pointed out, with a profile like that you have to espect your going to get the bottom feeders and way out responses. Your going to need to wade through a lot of crap that you opened the door for.

Being kept lilke chattel, wouldn't that equate to giving the pussy away?

K

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 4:23:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty

Third I am NOT here to give "pussy away"

slave susan

Yarrrr!!!! It's plunder!!!!

Don't walk away. You just need to realize that the Gorean boards are in shambles ATM. As a free site they are contending with Role Players. If you really want to talk to some good Goreans mail IronBear, Malkinius, Nos (i can't remember all of it), Lady Neets, and just pick through the boards until you discern who actually holds the Gorean way with respect.

The rest of the site also has its share of people just looking to get laid. I would hate to toss out a percentage of just horny people looking for sex but it would be high. You are young and gorgeous and all kinds are going to contact you for sex and try to E-Dom you into it. If you find someone interesting just look at their forum posts and it will give you a fair assessment of who they really are.

Chin up luv, Loki thinks your great.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 4:29:15 PM

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The rest of the site also has its share of people just looking to get laid. I would hate to toss out a percentage of just horny people looking for sex but it would be high.

I gotta say I agree with Bita on this, it sounds like being used as a sex and pain slave is exactly what she's looking for- as long as it's not a one night stand.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 4:38:47 PM

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And I quote what one recently said to me:

"But having no profile.....baiting an entire board and walking away isn't gonna give you alotta outlets to give that pussy away"

In all absolute honesty, I wouldn't even justify this person with a response. I agree with you. Anyone who thinks this lifestyle is about sex is sorely misguided. This lifestyle is about power exchange, plain and simple. The better majority of that exchange takes place outside of the sexual arena.

Furthermore, to anyone that this may apply to, I wouldn't take a great deal of confidence in someone who isn't familiar with the English language. "...alotta outlets to give that pussy away"? Yeah, nothing turns me on more than someone who can't properly conjugate a verb, and thinks "alotta" is a word.

Just my two cents,
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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:05:10 PM

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slave susan,

Your user name alone should clue in anyone who pays a bit of attention. If I were a Dom I wouldn't even contact someone named "collaredproperty". It doesn't get much clearer than that.

I have found quite a few friends on collarme. However, you have to learn to ignore the freaks (and there are plenty of them).

I hope this helps,
sub tara

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:16:24 PM

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um.... why wouldnt masters/doms want sex in their intimate BDSM relationships? If you said "All about sex" I could understand your question, but not about sex at all? Most people ARE sexual, BDSM has many forms of sexual expression built into it as a lifestyle (hence Bondage, Discipline, Sadomaschocism). This is not all that BDSM is, but many of us think of these things when pursuing relationships in this sphere,... I wonder what is wrong with "most dominants" wanting that?

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:25:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty

Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

And I quote what one recently said to me:

"But having no profile.....baiting an entire board and walking away isn't gonna give you alotta outlets to give that pussy away"

First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

Second I DONT Bait, I ask real and to the point questions.

Third I am NOT here to give "pussy away"

Fourth Maybe I should walk away from Collarme.com, I am being treated like meat at a meat market instead of human, a human that has a needs just like everyone else here. I quess it is wrong for me to expect Men to be Gentlemen, but give me a break that comment above was just so wrong on so many levels.

slave susan

susan:

yes, there are alot, even most who are using this as a meat market and think that bdsm somehow gives them the business to open up a convesation by asking our bust measurements. But I think...and I hope, that there might be few needles in this crazy haystack. And when you have a profile with provacative nude photos, it will only invite more of the same attitude that you say you are not looking for. Im not telling you how your profile should read, or what you should post, Im only suggesting that having those photos up is going to encourage some, or make some feel like they have the 'green light" to come at you in a sexual way right from the get-go. Bad enough so many of them cant think past their dicks to begin with, but why encourage it, if you're looking for something more substantial?

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:36:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty

Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

And I quote what one recently said to me:

"But having no profile.....baiting an entire board and walking away isn't gonna give you alotta outlets to give that pussy away"

First off I DO have a profile with pictures.

Second I DONT Bait, I ask real and to the point questions.

Third I am NOT here to give "pussy away"

Fourth Maybe I should walk away from Collarme.com, I am being treated like meat at a meat market instead of human, a human that has a needs just like everyone else here. I quess it is wrong for me to expect Men to be Gentlemen, but give me a break that comment above was just so wrong on so many levels.

slave susan

The short reply susan is that for many it as about sex!

However the incident you quoted was one of the replies made to you by Ron after you went and bated the entire Gorean Lifestyle Forum. Seeing that most of us know and love Ron his response was pretty normal and I'll wager very tongue in cheek..

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:40:39 PM

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I would be interested in knowing how many here understand the difference between being a "slave," and being a submissive. susan, do you understand what a slave is?

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:53:22 PM

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Oh good lord, do not start the whole sub/slave thing again. Everyone defines it differently. No one is right, no one is wrong. Her definition may not be the same as your definition. Get over it.

Susan, I haven't visited your profile, mostly because I don't visit the profiles of women in general. However, with comments like the one that Celeste posted from your profile, you're getting exactly the responses you're advertising for. If they're not what you're looking for, then perhaps you should consider putting a little more thought into your profile.

Bear in mind, however, that no matter what your profile is like, you will get troll email, HNG email and idiot email. There are two tools in your email account that you should become familiar with the use of...

Block and delete.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:55:04 PM

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Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

You don't even have the sense to define what sex is. Are you defining it like Bill Clinton? Are you defining it like Janet Hardy? Are you defining it according the the Rocks and Shoals?

Speaking purely for myself, as I generally endeavor to do, it IS about sex for me, both dom and sub, but that dosen't mean that it has anything to do with coitus, penetration, or even orgasm. The thrill I get is only equatable in my experience with sexual satisfaction, sexual fulfillment. I can keep the little master firmly tucked away in my jeans, and still walk around with a happy satisfied glow that lasts for days after a good scene.

A lack of communication is frequently the undoing of people on the internet, especiallyu when dealing with the kinkier scenes. The fallacy of a monolithic BDSM culture that is somehow universal and uses an absolutely defined jargon had been the despair of a great many otherwise genuine and wonderful individuals, without all the confusion of having to find the rare prince among all those slimy, green HNGs sitting on their internet lilly pads.

But, yes, in the BIG BOOK OF MEANINGS trapped in my head, it is all about sex. I just have a very broad definition of sex, compared to some I've spoken to.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 5:58:17 PM

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do you understand what a slave is?

Slave is a racial slur, implying that a person of slavic descent is only fit for menial labor in the tin mines of cornwall.

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RE: A Honest Opinion Please - 6/5/2006 6:00:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: CollaredProperty

Why is it that most Masters think that BDSM is about sex?

Why is it most posters think they know what everyone thinks? Have you talked with most masters? Have you talked to a hundred masters?

You don't even have the sense to define what sex is. Are you defining it like Bill Clinton? Are you defining it like Janet Hardy? Are you defining it according the the Rocks and Shoals?

Sir,

By saying MOST my refference point was personal email and post to me here on collarme.com. Question are you the well known writter of The Loving Dominant?

slave susan

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